Can a V6 Tune be detected? - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

mpiper · 03-22-2011, 08:19 PM

The V8 computer has a flash counter, which is how tunes are easily detected (if the dealership checks). I remember reading the V6 does NOT have a flash counter.

So, can the V6 tune be detected if you flash it back to stock before taking it to the dealership?

mydreamcar · 03-22-2011, 08:21 PM

the unofficial word is no they can't , but no one really knows for sure. You can purchase the tune from trifecta and load the stock tune in,

d69chris · 03-22-2011, 08:28 PM

Only with a flux capacitor in the USB cable.............

I would believe, anything done to the cars computer will be visible to someone with the right know how (GM).

bossbunny · 03-22-2011, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by d69chris

Only with a flux capacitor in the USB cable.............

I would believe, anything done to the cars computer will be visible to someone with the right know how (GM).

Bwahaha.

They say not. But if you buy the cable and tune with Vince @ Trifecta you can always flash back to stock tune.

I know we all want a "undetectable tune" but like they say, you gotta pay to play and that should be something you keep in mind when you go down that route.

mpiper · 03-22-2011, 08:38 PM

Chris,

That's why I'm saying return to stock tune. If there is no hardwired counter, then the tune isn't necessarily detectable, because reloading the stock tune should erase any traces. But, that depends on the computer and the programming system. If a tune is JUST variables being loaded, then reloading the original erases all traces. But if a tune is extra commands, then traces MIGHT be left behind.

So, I'm asking in case any of our "experienced" or "employed" members know if a GM policy exists on how to check the tune or if they even bother to take a ECM snapshot like they do with the SS.

Anyone know??? Does the ECM snapshot policy apply to V6's? is there a service bulletin or policy about checking for V6 tunes????

KMPrenger · 03-22-2011, 10:54 PM

I don't know forsure how it works, but I do know that if they had a seperate flash counter, then reloading back to stock tune would still be detectable, even if your flash back to stock completely rewrote everything.

CamaroDreams07 · 03-22-2011, 11:12 PM

I honestly doubt they would even check it on the V6. The percentage of V6 owners who even know what a tune is is small.

CamaroFreako · 03-22-2011, 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by CamaroDreams07

I honestly doubt they would even check it on the V6. The percentage of V6 owners who even know what a tune is is small.

This

*The_Blur* · 03-22-2011, 11:40 PM

As far as I know, all tunes are detectable.

jagan323 · 03-23-2011, 12:11 AM

Trifecta offers a tune add-on called Ghost tune, it masks the tune to look like it's untouched. Almost undetectable unless GM knows to look for it.

Beauwulf · 03-23-2011, 05:02 AM

You can always buy a separate ECU and apply the tune to that keeping your stock ECU untouched....

RickRay · 03-23-2011, 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by CamaroDreams07

I honestly doubt they would even check it on the V6. The percentage of V6 owners who even know what a tune is is small.

Your saying that because we bought a V6 WE do not know what a Tune is....

OOLIE · 03-23-2011, 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by RickRay

Your saying that because we bought a V6 WE do not know what a Tune is....

I think he was just saying the people who tend to do mods and tunes to seek out the most power tend to buy v8's for that reason. There are a few who appreciate the v6 and want to tweak it, but probably not the mainstream.

Blade · 03-23-2011, 08:05 AM

There was a thread floating around somewhere about 6 months ago, where a v6 owner had a techie for a friend working at GM and found out that they don't give a rat's ass if the V6 engine is tuned. Because they already maxed out the performance on the stock setup, they like diablo, HP tunes, SLP believe that no one is going to come out with a tune for it anyway.

In short, they don't bother checking for it.

03-22-2011, 08:19 PM	#1
mpiper Drives: 2011 Black 1LT RS Join Date: May 2010 Location: Texas Posts: 496	Can a V6 Tune be detected? The V8 computer has a flash counter, which is how tunes are easily detected (if the dealership checks). I remember reading the V6 does NOT have a flash counter. So, can the V6 tune be detected if you flash it back to stock before taking it to the dealership?

03-22-2011, 08:21 PM	#2
mydreamcar My Dream Car Drives: 2011 SIM LS3 1SS Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: staten island Posts: 1,534	the unofficial word is no they can't , but no one really knows for sure. You can purchase the tune from trifecta and load the stock tune in, __________________ CAI intake/ADM Scoop/Stainless Power Headers/Dynatech cat back exhaust/Vitesse Throttle Control/ Ported Throttle Body/QTP Electric Cutouts/ 3.91 gears and janetty rear posi/ Tuned by Janetty racing

03-22-2011, 08:28 PM	#3
d69chris Florida C5 Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS Vortech L99 IOM Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Tequesta, FL Posts: 2,610 View My Garage	Only with a flux capacitor in the USB cable............. I would believe, anything done to the cars computer will be visible to someone with the right know how (GM). __________________ Ordered 11/08/08....Del. 08/05/2009 Loving every minute of it! Don't hate me because i'm Pretty....

03-22-2011, 10:54 PM	#6
KMPrenger Drives: 16 Camaro SS, 15 Colorado Join Date: May 2009 Location: Jefferson City, Missouri Posts: 13,949	I don't know forsure how it works, but I do know that if they had a seperate flash counter, then reloading back to stock tune would still be detectable, even if your flash back to stock completely rewrote everything. __________________ 2016 Camaro 1SS - 8-speed - NPP - Black bowties 2010 Camaro 1LT V6 (Sold. I will miss her!)

03-22-2011, 11:12 PM	#7
CamaroDreams07 Drives: Slow V6 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: East Lansing, MI Posts: 9,361 View My Garage	I honestly doubt they would even check it on the V6. The percentage of V6 owners who even know what a tune is is small. __________________ [B]

03-22-2011, 08:38 PM	#5
mpiper Drives: 2011 Black 1LT RS Join Date: May 2010 Location: Texas Posts: 496	Chris, That's why I'm saying return to stock tune. If there is no hardwired counter, then the tune isn't necessarily detectable, because reloading the stock tune should erase any traces. But, that depends on the computer and the programming system. If a tune is JUST variables being loaded, then reloading the original erases all traces. But if a tune is extra commands, then traces MIGHT be left behind. So, I'm asking in case any of our "experienced" or "employed" members know if a GM policy exists on how to check the tune or if they even bother to take a ECM snapshot like they do with the SS. Anyone know??? Does the ECM snapshot policy apply to V6's? is there a service bulletin or policy about checking for V6 tunes????

03-22-2011, 11:40 PM	#9
The_Blur Moderator Drives: 2018 Harley-Davidson Street Bob Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: San Diego Posts: 14,769	As far as I know, all tunes are detectable. __________________ RDP Motorsport//GEN5DIY//Cultrag Performance//JPSS//Rodgets Chevrolet// Operation Demon//Buy at Invoice//RACECARWEAR RESPECT ALL CARS. LOVE YOUR OWN. warn 145:159 ban

03-23-2011, 12:11 AM	#10
jagan323 I have no life Drives: 06' Subaru STI, ex-Camaro V6 LLT Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Top Gear Test Track Posts: 3,189	Trifecta offers a tune add-on called Ghost tune, it masks the tune to look like it's untouched. Almost undetectable unless GM knows to look for it. __________________ List of Camaro DIY The Blog

03-23-2011, 05:02 AM	#11
Beauwulf Drives: '10 LT RS A6 & '04 Acura RSX Type S Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 1,529	You can always buy a separate ECU and apply the tune to that keeping your stock ECU untouched.... __________________

03-23-2011, 08:05 AM	#14
Blade Drives: 2016 Camaro 2SS BVM Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Charlotte Posts: 4,689 View My Garage	There was a thread floating around somewhere about 6 months ago, where a v6 owner had a techie for a friend working at GM and found out that they don't give a rat's ass if the V6 engine is tuned. Because they already maxed out the performance on the stock setup, they like diablo, HP tunes, SLP believe that no one is going to come out with a tune for it anyway. In short, they don't bother checking for it. __________________ Formerly owner of: 2012 2SS/RS Build Thread - Totaled by red light runner 2010 LT/RS Build Thread - Traded in for 2012 2SS 2007 Acura TSX 1992 Oldsmobile Achieva V6 1992 Mercury Sable

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