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Old 02-07-2011, 10:56 PM   #1
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Midnight

I brought my black 2011 1LT 6A home on 12/23/2010.

I drove gently, never going over 4,000 RPM for the first 1,000 miles. At 563 miles I did the first oil change, to get rid of any flash or initial metal shavings.At this pioint, I did get on it every couple of days, but eased off at 3,800 or so.

At 1,200 miles, I read the thread about breaking an engine in by using rolling-start 0-90 acceleration runs to better seat the rings, etc. So I started doing 0-5-70 runs several times a day (soft to 5mph then putting the pedal down until I hit 70, then coasting and merging onto the highway). I could feel the engine really start to loosen up and it accelerated stronger than it had when I only went to 4,000.

At about 1,600 miles, with a full tank of 89 octane, I plugged in a Bluetooth OBD II connector and used the Android phone app "Torque" to time 0-60 and check horsepower. The 0-60 time was 7.0 and horsepower showed at 220. Pretty sad numbers. But that was with the Auto in "D", a full tank and the wrong weight entered in the program (I put just the car's weight, not including me, the gas, or the box in the trunk).

Spent the next week running 93 octane and trying out leaving the trans in "S" (manual but never touching the tap-shift). Car was running better and the erratic timing advance I had noticed had settled to a smooth and consistent curve as the RPMs increased.

Still haven't run a second timed 0-60. I plan on doing that in the next week. I didn't buy it to race, so it's not a crucial issue for me, just a point of pride that I want it able to run better than 6 second 0-60's.

My Roto-Fab CAI and Windshield Washer relocate kit just arrived. Roto-Fab is a top quality company based on how well they packed and organized everything. I'll try to attach images to show how everything arrived.

The closed box:

Looking in the just-opened box:

Everything laid out:

The CAI box and elbow:

The assorted parts, goodies and instructions:


Next up: Record stock sounds, get baseline 0-60 and Horsepower. The I install the Roto-Fab CAI!
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Old 02-08-2011, 08:25 PM   #2
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Sweet! Please keep us posted. It looks like the cardboard box took a few love taps on the way to you.
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Old 02-08-2011, 11:06 PM   #3
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Sweet! Please keep us posted. It looks like the cardboard box took a few love taps on the way to you.
Yeah, the box wasn't pristine by the time it arrived. But everything was packed so well I think everything inside was totally protected.

I'm going to record a few video clips of the stock car first, so I can do a nice "before and after" progression for each mod. Then I'll be installing these.
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Old 02-08-2011, 11:26 PM   #4
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Ok, before I forget, let me cover the latest.

Did two 0-60 runs this evening. The first was with the transmission in D. Ran a 7.0 again. Second run, transmission in S. Ran a 6.7. So three tenths just from different transmission setting. The program calculated the horse power as 235. I need to see what most people are getting in rwhp.

I was going to run a third time, with traction control off. However, a friendly neighborhood police cruiser decided to drive by. Since they have been known to hand out little slips of paper titled "excessive display of speed" I decided to call it a night and continue another night. I could probably get more tests in, but I only drive full out when there are no other cars. So unless I want to drive a long way out into the boonies, I have to make my runs after 7: 30, when the road with reasonable speed limits is not busy.

So, tomorrow we try it without TC. If this doesn't drop it into 6.0 territory, I'm going to be ticked. Wonder if something under warrantee needs adjusting? Hmm
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Old 02-10-2011, 06:53 AM   #5
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Pics of car

Forgot to upload any pictures of the car. These were taken in December, but no changes have been made besides adding the license plates.





And yes, Texas is a 2 plate state, so they had the front license plate holder on about 30 seconds after it was unloaded off the truck. So, I'll make the best of it. I'm used to the look now, but I still wish it wasn't there.
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Old 02-10-2011, 08:25 AM   #6
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Forgot to upload any pictures of the car. These were taken in December, but no changes have been made besides adding the license plates.





And yes, Texas is a 2 plate state, so they had the front license plate holder on about 30 seconds after it was unloaded off the truck. So, I'll make the best of it. I'm used to the look now, but I still wish it wasn't there.
Well you do have an option to replace the plate mount with a retrackable plate mount. The car is black so use a black plug to cover the holes in the bumper.
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Old 02-10-2011, 12:09 PM   #7
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Where can I order the plugs?
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Old 02-13-2011, 02:46 AM   #8
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Do you have a link to the thread about the rolling start-0-90? I've just gotten mine on Tuesday with 55 miles on it. I've never heard about this kind of break it and would like to read it.

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Old 02-15-2011, 11:16 PM   #9
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This is the thread about the 0 - 90 rolling start break-in.
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Old 02-16-2011, 09:47 PM   #10
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OK. Got back in town from a business trip and ran a new 0-60 test.
Transmission in "S": Check
Traction control off: Check
Rev up to 1,000 RPM: Check

Drop brake and slam the gas. 6.5 seconds!

Well, I finally broke the 7 second window, but that's still a far cry from the 5.9 to 6.1 quoted in the magazines.

My goal is to get to the 6.0 range stock before I add the Roto-Fab or any other components. But what am I missing? Time to hit the search button and start reading all the V6 topics on performance.
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Old 02-26-2011, 11:52 PM   #11
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Tint

Just posting this. I've been out of town on business.

Got my windows tinted Wednesday. 25% front and 16% rears. Forgive the crappy picture. It was a quick shot at 8 PM after driving around 400 miles with my phone's camera. I'll post a better one when I take it.

The tint was applied by Texas Sunstoppers. He did a great job and never used a razor on the car to trim the tint. He'd lay it on the glass, squeegee it smooth, then use a marker on the peal off coating. Then he'd transfer it to a lighted cutting board and trim it there. He said it prevents cutting any rubber edges, or scratching any soft glass or coatings. The lit-up cutting board looked like a giant x-ray display at a doctor's office. Coolest trick I've ever seen.

So what happens the first day driving with the windows? I'm on cruise control doing exactly 70 on an interstate. Come over a hill and a highway Patrol is sitting with his radar gun in his hand. I see him spot me, switch the gun to me and hold it on me the entire way down the hill, totally ignoring the car that passed me. I was so tempted to wave and smile, but figured he'd light up just because, so I simply watched until I passed him. (I had a friend get pulled over because he waved at a cop through tint and the cop thought he flipped him off. He likes to kid around and knew he was exactly 1 mile over and just waved while smiling thinking no big deal. Took him around 15 minutes to convince the officer he was trying to be friendly. I understand the attitudes cops can run into, so I just try to be polite, friendly and not do anything that might be misunderstood.)

Thursday, I'm making a quick run from the business site to the hotel to pick up some things. doing 60 on a 65 highway (newer area, so I didn't want to miss my exit). Pass an intersection and a cop hits a quick right, hops on the highway and tails me all the way through three road changes and finally turns around when I exit to the access road to the hotel.

Hmmmm. Maybe a bit too dark? Luckily, Good Ol' San Antone tends to be a bit more relaxed and I don't expect that level of scrutiny. Funny thing is technically, I'm legal. But a Black on Black car tends to make any tint look darker, so doing a flat black tint that hits the border on the sides is really pushing it. But it looks SO GOOD!!
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Old 02-27-2011, 12:08 AM   #12
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Today I finally installed my Roto-Fab CAI. I've been trying to wait on my hood from Gary. But I just finally couldn't wait.

Here's the original Engine bay:

And the New and Improved Engine bay:

And here's why I got the oiled-style filter. Instead of a flat cap, the top of the filter has another cone, so this has even MORE airflow surface area!


Funny thing, When I first step on it now, there's a whistle for a few seconds, like a vacuum leak or something. But I checked the tube everyone says tends to come loose on these installs. Nice and tight. Is a whistle normal?

But the new sound!!! The engine moans! Not a whinny, sick moan. I mean the awesome bass moan you get from an electric bass during a Nikki Sixx solo combined with the sound of a turbo-prop engine winding up for take-off!

Can't wait to hear this thing sucking air through an MPD Z-force hood.
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Old 02-27-2011, 01:34 AM   #13
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Nice looking car, and I may need to get ahold of you for info on the tint shop...

Roto-Fab is top notch.. Mine is coming off, but not due to any problems...I'm using a different type of induction system...

As for the RotoFab CAI, I'm sending it to a friend in Maine or Conn or somewhere up in the cold wet NE...

Look forward to meeting you in San Antonio some time... Friday night meets...
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Old 02-28-2011, 12:59 AM   #14
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The tint shop's website is http://www.windowtintsa.com He just moved locations, so as he updates the website my car should eventually be in his photo gallery. He does really good work. He used a heat gun to seal the top edge so the tint wouldn't peal when it goes up each time you close the door. Then he used a steam machine to really work the bottom edge since he knew it would try to bubble when you open the door and the window rolls down that half inch. That evening, I saw it do just that, but sure enough, his little trick with the steamer worked. The next morning the bubble was half the original size and later that day, it was gone.

Just rolled the windows down for the first time today. Worked perfect and no sign of a wrinkle or problem anywhere. I highly recommend him! Very, very happy customer.
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Old 03-09-2011, 08:35 PM   #15
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Time for an update.

I've been less than satisfied with my 0-60 times, as recorded by the "Torque" app on my android phone. Several people suggested the app was not providing accurate numbers and that I should get a dash hawk. Some others suggested getting a K.A.T. Matrix Accelerometer. It has NO connection to the car, it just registers acceleration and uses that to time 0-60 and 1/4 mile times.

So, after getting over the sticker shock of the DashHawk, I decided to get the Matrix, since it's 1/10th the price. Just made three runs with it. I also had my "Torque" app running at the same time, just for comparison.

Now, since installing the Roto-Fab Intake, I've never had temperatures as low, usually between 58 and 77 degrees. I've also never once gotten below 7.0 on Torque. So, I set the car's weight in the Matrix, suction cup it to the radio face and make my runs, listed below:
Matrix Torque
5.08 7.3
4.88 7.1
4.52 7.0

Uhm. . . WTH??? I expected a variance, but that's a bit incredible. While I love the numbers of the Matrix, I really don't believe them. And Torque gave me a calculated 251 RWHP and 220 Lbs/ft torque. So those numbers make sense.

So, what should I believe. Hm, the average? That comes to . . .5.98 And the funny thing is that's the number I wanted to see! But that was VERY Fuzzy Math. Time to read the manual on the Matrix in detail and see if there's more to it than just entering car's weight.
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Old 03-11-2011, 10:44 PM   #16
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Well, I figured out why the Matrix reads so low.

They misjudge when you hit 60. The instructions say to mount it on the windshield as close to level and 100% dead center in the middle, as possible. When I ran my first tests, I mounted it the same way I saw others doing it in their pictures. I placed it on the Radio faceplate on the right side. I noticed a beeping sound before I hit 60, but didn't know what it was, since the manual doesn't mention beeps. I do know it was measurably before 60. Maybe as early as 54,55 mph?

Tonight I mounted it the same place, but made sure it was 100% level and the face was exactly perpendicular, not tilted, and drove a little softer to 60. 6.22 seconds BEEPED and stopped timing at 57 MPH. I said softer, not slow. My eyes were on the speedometer and the Matrix, with the street (a deserted, arrow straight road)in periferal vision.) I tried it again with a full-out punch. It stopped at 5.88 at 55 MPH.

So I moved it to the windshield, dead center under the mirror. Tried again. 5.98 at 58 MPH. Last time, 5.99 at 59 MPH.

So.... Item 1, I can safely say I've got a 6 second car. I'm betting 6.0 to 6.1 is the real times. This is running 89 Octane, 3/4 tank, exterior temp of 64, trans in "S" no stall, just release break, stomp the Gas and hold on.

Item 2, The times on the monitors cannot be used for bragging rights. (duh, yeah I know. Just saying it out loud.)

But my personal point is that I've now proved to myself that my car, in daily driver trim with just a Roto-Fab Intake can hit 0 - 60 in 6 seconds. 91-93 Octane and 1/4 tank should hit 5.90. I'm now happy and satisfied it is running like it should be. Next up, a dyno then drag strip for a real timeslip. But that's a while away right now. Maybe next month.
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Old 03-12-2011, 09:23 AM   #17
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Old 03-12-2011, 12:35 PM   #18
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Next is windshield washer relocation, and my Z-Force hood to force feed the CAI. (When it comes in.)

Then a dyno and 1/4 mile run in this setup.
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Old 03-17-2011, 09:53 PM   #19
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Heart Broken



My garage tried to eat my Camaro!

I was backing out of the garage. The kids were in the driveway and when it was out I was going to hop out and the two younger hop in the back and the oldest in the passenger seat.

Since I was in it for just a second, I did something I've done many times over the years with other cars. I pulled the door shut, but didn't pull hard to latch it.

My garage has a lip before you drop an inch or so to the driveway. My younger son (the impulsive one) started across the driveway, then when my oldest yelled, he stopped. Well, between my sudden stop, the drop and then tapping the gas, the door swung open just enough to catch the garage door rail.

I was only rolling, not even on the gas. But the weight of the car was enough to bend the rail and put two notches in my door. The garage wall pushed the window edge forward and the hinges buckled, shifting the door forward to almost touching the front fender.

The second I heard the metal I slammed on the brakes and . Here's the damage. Progressive's got the car at the bodyshop I requested and they promise to return her in as new condition or continue until I'm happy. In the meantime, I'm in a GD Galant.

Here's how she looked when I dropped her off.



I do everything possible to be safe, careful and keep her in pristine condition. And a split-second freak occurrence puts her in the shop.

I hope everything fits and looks perfect when I get my car back. It hurt driving her like this.
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Old 03-26-2011, 10:19 PM   #20
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Got Midnight back friday. The repairs are not up to standard. But they are going to redo the issues. Probably going to get a new skin.they tried just correcting the sheet metal, but the creases and curves don't line up.

So Tuesday it goes back.

In the meantime, I installed the windshield washer relocation. Now she can pull fresh air directly from in front of the wheel well. The hood should be here Monday. Can't wait!

Of course, then back to the insurance company for corrections.
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Old 03-26-2011, 11:33 PM   #21
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Just finished transferring pictures of the install. Forgive the camera phone level quality. But hopefully you can get the point!

Here's the basic install photos.
1. Original Bottle blocked airway when wheelwell was in place


2. Original pump, new hose from bottle and original hose to windshield nozzles. I zip-tied them together to keep them from crimping and to keep the filter from rattling against the frame.


3. Look at the open airway! Now she can breathe! If I wasn't installing an MPD Z-Force hood with ducting, I'd add the ADM scoop to create a bit of a ram air effect.


4. And Lastly, the nice clean look of the Cold Air Induction with a professional Windshield washer bottle directly behind.


Used a lift at a friend's shop. Made the job MUCH easier. On the drive home, I swear the Roto-Fab roar was even more pronounced! And it really seemed to run better over 3,500 RPM!
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Old 03-26-2011, 11:44 PM   #22
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Old 03-27-2011, 12:00 AM   #23
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Will do. They did a VERY good job fixing the bent sheet metal. But the original waistline crease is no longer sharp, and the lower "indent" doesn't quite line up with the body's. That's why I'll probably get new sheet metal.

Other issues:
Inner door panel is 1/4 inch too far forward, so the back lip of the rubber at top of door doesn't fit under panel lip.
Door striker/latch off about 1/16 inch. Door fully closed is open about the width of the sheet metal.
Window slightly out of alignment, so the "lower window/raise window" message comes on every time I start the car. Probably only 1 degree or so, but when the window is open a fraction, you can see it doesn't line up with the frame perfect.
The tweeter housing is slightly out of alignment(1/8 inch). I thought that just popped in, so hopefully aligning the door panel with fix that automatically.

Sounds like a lot, but they're all so minor a "normal" person would probably not care. But this is my pride and joy. The car I have wanted since I was 10 and saw "Smokey and the Bandit." So I'm annal and Picky as hell. But I wasn't a jerk about it. Never pays to be rude to people who are working on your stuff. I simply pointed out the issue, showed how the other side looked, and let the adjuster make the notes. She was very helpful and was very willing to just have me call her when I was bringing the car back so she could set up a rental and coordinate the next round of repairs.

Not happy it has to go back, but VERY happy how willing they are to make it right.
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Old 04-01-2011, 11:21 PM   #24
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Car's still at the body shop. They tried to get the door perfect, couldn't pull it off, so ordered a new skin.

The skin is installed, painted, and baked. Monday they buff it and reinstall the parts removed. I should get it back Tuesday or Wednesday, depending on how long it takes.

The hood came in this week, so they have it. Had to do some minor re-paint, since the original paint job wasn't show ready. They install it Monday as well.

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Old 04-09-2011, 10:57 PM   #25
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New Scoop is on and looks great!!

Here's how it came out!







This design looks like it was an original equipment piece. The lines flow with the rest of the car. And it feeds directly to the Roto-Fab CAI box perfectly! The gasket provided seems a bit too thick, so I either need to shave about 1/8th inch off the top, or get a thinner gasket. That's how closely the air duct lines up with the edges of this CAI!!

Love it!
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