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Old 02-21-2011, 05:37 PM   #1
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Eibach springs rubbing stock struts.

Well not sure if any of you followed my post in the Camaro Issues section - see link
anyway the result of the creaking noise was the eibach spring (my front right) rubbing against the stock strut.

So I have to ask if anyone else with Eibach pro-kit springs is having the same issue or maybe mine is a one off caused by hitting the pot hole.
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Old 02-21-2011, 06:37 PM   #2
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Seems like 99% of most problems are caused by improper installations and things not being tightened properly. If installed correctly there should be no issues.....mine have been on for over 15mo's w/zero problems.


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1. Htting a pot hole should not cause the coil to rub.
2. Is there any chance you have a digital showing the point of contact?
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Old 02-21-2011, 08:26 PM   #4
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1. Htting a pot hole should not cause the coil to rub.
2. Is there any chance you have a digital showing the point of contact?
no not yet, but I'll work on it and see if I can get a decent shot.
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Seems like 99% of most problems are caused by improper installations and things not being tightened properly. If installed correctly there should be no issues.....mine have been on for over 15mo's w/zero problems.


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Old 02-22-2011, 08:09 AM   #6
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Get a pic up so we can see. I am looking at my car now and the only way I can see if it rubs is it not seated crorrectly.
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Old 02-27-2011, 10:05 AM   #7
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ok, so I've kept quiet on this for a few days as the sound had disappeared. I wanted to give it some time to see if it would come back but it must be about 5 days now and nothing

I'm planning on taking a look anyway and maybe removing and resitting that particular spring but I'm thinking the most likliest of things that may have happened is that I got a stone or some dirt in there or something

anyway all is well for now
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Old 02-27-2011, 10:11 AM   #8
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Hi! Shoulda made the 59 Diner last night! The parts may have worn down (been crushed) to a point that they don't rub. Be sure to check it with a drop light so that this doesn't create a bigger problem later.
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only issues had were the sway bar connections not tight enough..
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Old 02-27-2011, 05:49 PM   #10
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ok, so I've kept quiet on this for a few days as the sound had disappeared. I wanted to give it some time to see if it would come back but it must be about 5 days now and nothing

I'm planning on taking a look anyway and maybe removing and resitting that particular spring but I'm thinking the most likliest of things that may have happened is that I got a stone or some dirt in there or something

anyway all is well for now
A stone could cause a coil pop like noise so that is a possibility. Another possibility would be the stacker coils were not completely stacked and needed some miles to settle in. An inspection may be a better option that a reinstalling the coils. Reinstalling the coils could cause the noise to return.
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Old 03-05-2011, 11:37 AM   #11
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I just looked at these with Paul in my garage. The rubbing is at the lower part of the spring where it is touching the metal plate mounted to the strut when it compresses (see photo).

This is happening on both sides, but the springs seem to be seated right - there wasn't much play to move it around and we had the wieght off the suspension. The rubber seat is aligned well on the metal plate and the spring pigtail sits perfectly in the groove against the stop.

Paul can post more/better pics. I'm stumped. Anyone know what to do?
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I just looked at these with Paul in my garage. The rubbing is at the lower part of the spring where it is touching the metal plate mounted to the strut when it compresses (see photo).

This is happening on both sides, but the springs seem to be seated right - there wasn't much play to move it around and we had the wieght off the suspension. The rubber seat is aligned well on the metal plate and the spring pigtail sits perfectly in the groove against the stop.

Paul can post more/better pics. I'm stumped. Anyone know what to do?
thanks for your help again Robert.

Here are a few other photos we took:
I think these were the drivers side looking at the orientation - both sides had almost identical rubbing marks although to date I have only heard noises from the front passenger side. I almost feel as though bending the lip of the base plate away slightly would solve the problem. We greased up both locations after re-assembly and so far no more noises.


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For whatever reason, the lower loop is either too marge or not seated correctly. Here is what you do to find out.

1. Call Eibach and see if they have had an issue with a batch of coils. If you manufacture parts, sooner of later out of spec parts will ship to the consumer. No manufacture ever wants that to happen and we all do our best to make sure it doesn't. That doesn't make us perfect. It only makes us better and reduces in the field problems. Call Eibach.

800-507-2338
Eibach Springs, Inc.
264 Mariah Circle
Corona, CA 92879

2. If you don't get a good response from Eibach. Pull the struts aparts and very carefully reassemble them. Before you reinstall the coils, prep and paint the rub spot of the coils. You could also cover the spots in masking tape.

3. While the coils are out, measure the lower loop and compare it to the OR coil you removed. If it is larger then you'll have good information for your second call to Eibach.

They are a reputable company that will help you sort this out.
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Old 03-06-2011, 10:50 AM   #14
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For whatever reason, the lower loop is either too marge or not seated correctly. Here is what you do to find out.

1. Call Eibach and see if they have had an issue with a batch of coils. If you manufacture parts, sooner of later out of spec parts will ship to the consumer. No manufacture ever wants that to happen and we all do our best to make sure it doesn't. That doesn't make us perfect. It only makes us better and reduces in the field problems. Call Eibach.

800-507-2338
Eibach Springs, Inc.
264 Mariah Circle
Corona, CA 92879

2. If you don't get a good response from Eibach. Pull the struts aparts and very carefully reassemble them. Before you reinstall the coils, prep and paint the rub spot of the coils. You could also cover the spots in masking tape.

3. While the coils are out, measure the lower loop and compare it to the OR coil you removed. If it is larger then you'll have good information for your second call to Eibach.

They are a reputable company that will help you sort this out.
thanks for the help, I'll try contact them tomorrow.
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Old 03-06-2011, 11:18 AM   #15
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thanks for your help again Robert.

Here are a few other photos we took:
I think these were the drivers side looking at the orientation - both sides had almost identical rubbing marks although to date I have only heard noises from the front passenger side. I almost feel as though bending the lip of the base plate away slightly would solve the problem. We greased up both locations after re-assembly and so far no more noises.


I had the same problem bro, but been running pro-kit w/ sways for over a year and no more problems...it appears to me the clear rubber sleeve on the spring isn't an the bottom of the spring where it belongs from what i can tell in the pic..the purpose of that sleeve i would think is to avoid metal to metal contact like ur getting...u should be able to slide it to the bottom of the spring by just taking the wheel off and jacking the car a bit...u shouldn't need to drop the struts again...good luck -JON
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My Eibach springs and bars on for one year now and never a peep.
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Old 03-06-2011, 01:20 PM   #17
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I had the same problem bro, but been running pro-kit w/ sways for over a year and no more problems...it appears to me the clear rubber sleeve on the spring isn't an the bottom of the spring where it belongs from what i can tell in the pic..the purpose of that sleeve i would think is to avoid metal to metal contact like ur getting...u should be able to slide it to the bottom of the spring by just taking the wheel off and jacking the car a bit...u shouldn't need to drop the struts again...good luck -JON
hmm, we were moving those sleeves around by hand yesterday but as you say they are not all the way down, I will give that a shot though, thanks for the tip. It's difficult to screw up this installation as the coil basicaly sits in a groove on the bottom plate so maybe there is a slight manufacturing defect.
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The sleeves are called coil wrap. They are there so that the stacker / dead coils don't make noise. They are not there to keep the lowest coil off the strut / lower spring perch. If you move them they will get cut by the lower spring perch and then you will have coil pop in addition to your current noise.

They are not my coils and I could be wrong. Make sure you speak to Eibach about this and let us all know how it turns out.
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Old 03-07-2011, 03:43 PM   #19
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I called Eibach today and they were pretty helpful, they asked me to document the whole saga and email to them with photos. They will get there R&D to investigate. I will keep you updated when I hear back from them.

p.s. I did ask about the possibility of a bad batch but this seemed to be the first report they had got with this issue.
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Old 03-07-2011, 03:56 PM   #20
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Paul,

the aftermarket is an interesting one. All too frequently people get parts that don't quite fit. Their expectations are so low they find a way to make it work and the information never gets back to the manufacturer. Your call to Eibach to day will help them with their on going product development. As much I as I don't want to hear we have a problem with anything we make, I know that every customer call with a fitment or function issue is an opportunity to improve our product.

Eibach is a quality company. They will make it right for you.
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Had the same issue on my pro-kit the coil wrap is suppose to start 2 1/2 coils down from the top as per Eibach do not move that wrap I did and it started an even more annoying popping sound and feel in the steering wheel.
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Do not move the coil rap. As Pete said it is there to help when the spring coils stack. Follow Pete's suggestion, contact Eibach. They have always stood behind all of there products that we have installed or used.
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I've been in touch with Eibach and sent them photos, I'm just waiting on a response from their technical people. I'll post back when/IF I do hear from them.
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I never did hear back from Eibach, but we took another look at the seating of the front coils, added a bit of grease and I have not heard the noise again for almost 2 months now - seems they maybe weren't seated quite correctly...............
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