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Dueclaws · 09-13-2012, 08:45 AM

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Sometimes when we’re bored, we don’t clean our rooms or fix things, we go fishing for walleye. And other times we scavenge the United States Patent Office database. We just so happened to perform the latter this time, and we have some news. Filed September 7, 2012, General Motors, LLC filed a trademark application for the “Z28″ nameplate. It’s perfectly natural to grin.

Recalling when the new Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 first unveiled to the world in Chicago back in February 2011, it left many in surprise that the 580-horse super pony car didn’t bear the sacred Z28 name. At the same time, we were told that there’s still a Z28 Camaro coming, and this trademark filing makes everything all the more evident.

So, between the Chevrolet Camaro V6, SS, 1LE and ZL1, the Z28 has to squeeze in somewhere. Perhaps it will even out-muscle the ZL1. Or it may replace the SS plate with the sedan bearing the same name and arriving next year to avoid confusion. It’s all very quiet right now, and we will therefore leave the speculation up to you in the comment section below.

austinjames · 09-13-2012, 08:46 AM

Fingers crossed

camaro2lt · 09-13-2012, 08:54 AM

somethings coming................... cant wait too see what it is

Ivan @ Southwest Speed · 09-13-2012, 09:02 AM

GM Trademarks Z28 a couple days ago...we can all wish right?

GM Trademarks "Z28" Name

Enjoy,
Ivan

BowtieBelle · 09-13-2012, 09:03 AM

Maybe 2017 will have the 50th anniversary Z after all...

it will be mine. Oh yes.

RADREVX · 09-13-2012, 09:11 AM

id be all over that z28 like white on rice

Ivan @ Southwest Speed · 09-13-2012, 09:25 AM

Where's it fit in the lineup?? Above or below the ZL1?

I'd think below but the 1LE kinda took that spot so I don't know where the thunder could be personally.

Just curious how the public receives it.....
Ivan

MINI HLK · 09-13-2012, 09:31 AM

DARN it... was just going to post this. Now the question is next August will I purchase a 1LE or will the vaunted Z28 be available... Mother of all Decisions.

daveagogo1 · 09-13-2012, 09:44 AM

I doubt it will appear on a 5th gen. Most likely just replace thee ss model for the 6th. Even the article suggests this.

jake2212 · 09-13-2012, 09:44 AM

i like the idea. i've grown up around z28s my whole life. mom had 3 of em, her current being a 2002 35th edition. i would love to see this in a 5th gen

ShnOmac · 09-13-2012, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Ivan @ Southwest Speed

Where's it fit in the lineup?? Above or below the ZL1?

I'd think below but the 1LE kinda took that spot so I don't know where the thunder could be personally.

As much as it pain's me to say it... I kind of feel the same way. With the 1LE running so strong at the track is there room for another track star?

Swacer · 09-13-2012, 10:02 AM

It may also be that Chevy is renewing their patent on the Z28 name. It may mean nothing.

HDRDTD · 09-13-2012, 10:05 AM

It could be that the Z28 will replace the LE in the 6th gen lineup.

Denis · 09-13-2012, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by HDRDTD

It could be that the Z28 will replace the LE in the 6th gen lineup.

i was thinking the same thing.

caverman · 09-13-2012, 10:14 AM

I see no room for a Z/28 while the 1LE is being offered. After all, they are basically the same thing. Track cars.

Maybe on the 6th Gen but I don't see it happening on the 5th Gen at all.

BowtieBelle · 09-13-2012, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by caverman

Maybe on the 6th Gen but I don't see it happening on the 5th Gen at all.

I kinda agree here as much as I hate to say it. But as long as there's a sixth gen Z I'll be happy!

Nessal · 09-13-2012, 10:16 AM

IMO, GM totally fubar the names up. The current ZL1 should be the Z28 and they should produce a real ZL1 that dominates at the strip.

Ebbsnflows · 09-13-2012, 10:18 AM

Shouldn't it fall in between the SS and the V6 like it did in the 4th gen cars?

Perhaps offering the same motor as the SS, but fewer ammenities?

Bhobbs · 09-13-2012, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by daveagogo1

I doubt it will appear on a 5th gen. Most likely just replace thee ss model for the 6th. Even the article suggests this.

The article suggests it will replace the SS Camaro when the SS sedan is launched which, I think, is a 2014 model. That would mean there would be a 5th gen Z/28.

BowtieBelle · 09-13-2012, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Ebbsnflows

Shouldn't it fall in between the SS and the V6 like it did in the 4th gen cars?

Perhaps offering the same motor as the SS, but fewer ammenities?

That's what the 1SS does.

I think it should have the MRS, a serious weight reduction and maybe a different motor.

shaffe · 09-13-2012, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Bhobbs

The article suggests it will replace the SS Camaro when the SS sedan is launched which, I think, is a 2014 model. That would mean there would be a 5th gen Z/28.

That would mean it would either

A: just be a rebadged SS and nothing super special

or

B: if the SS is dropped and replaced by Z28 but the Z28 is the special car lots of folks here are hoping for, then the Camaro will be missing "regular" V-8 option car to compete with Mustang GT

or

C, the article is wrong and the SS wont get replaced, and the Z28 will slide inbetween 1LE and ZL1 like many here want it too

shaffe · 09-13-2012, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Ivan @ Southwest Speed

Where's it fit in the lineup?? Above or below the ZL1?

I'd think below but the 1LE kinda took that spot so I don't know where the thunder could be personally.

Just curious how the public receives it.....
Ivan

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Originally Posted by ShnOmac

As much as it pain's me to say it... I kind of feel the same way. With the 1LE running so strong at the track is there room for another track star?

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Originally Posted by caverman

I see no room for a Z/28 while the 1LE is being offered. After all, they are basically the same thing. Track cars.

Maybe on the 6th Gen but I don't see it happening on the 5th Gen at all.

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Originally Posted by Ebbsnflows

Shouldn't it fall in between the SS and the V6 like it did in the 4th gen cars?

Perhaps offering the same motor as the SS, but fewer ammenities?

Dont say that in the Z28 subforum or they will chase with their pitch forks in an angry mob!!! hahahahaha

But I agree with you guys. I just dont see where in the 5th Gen the Z28 fits in. It has to perform better than the 1LE but not as good as the ZL1 bc IIRC the ZL1 is supposed to be the ultimate Camaro.

monstertodd · 09-13-2012, 10:57 AM

If the Z28 stays true to it's racing roots, it won't have magnetic ride suspension OR a supercharged engine. The 1LE will be a stopgap until the Z28 can be done "properly".

One of the things that sucks about the ZL1 is that since it has magnetic ride suspension, it can't be used in any class of racing.

Z28 needs to have normal racing suspension, less weight, and a naturally aspirated engine that ensures a proper power to weight ratio. Not a gigantic engine shoehorned into an overweight pig either (i.e. 5th gen).

Bhobbs · 09-13-2012, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by shaffe

That would mean it would either

A: just be a rebadged SS and nothing super special

or

B: if the SS is dropped and replaced by Z28 but the Z28 is the special car lots of folks here are hoping for, then the Camaro will be missing "regular" V-8 option car to compete with Mustang GT

or

C, the article is wrong and the SS wont get replaced, and the Z28 will slide inbetween 1LE and ZL1 like many here want it too

I agree. If the Z/28 is built like it should, there would be a huge price gap between the V6 and Z/28.

Im hoping it will be C but I'm thinking the Z/28 may turn out to be similar to the SS is now. That or like the 1LE and make it an add on to the SS.

GM doesn't have the engines available to compete with Ford. Especially now that the Gen V engine is coming out.

toesuf94 · 09-13-2012, 11:23 AM

They do this to get the royalties from the Models, Hot Wheels, and other licensed products...

:emoticon7:

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09-13-2012, 09:25 AM	#7
Ivan @ Southwest Speed Southwestspeed.net Drives: '10 2SS/RS, '96 Z28 Join Date: May 2009 Location: Rio Rancho, NM Posts: 10,488	Where's it fit in the lineup?? Above or below the ZL1? I'd think below but the 1LE kinda took that spot so I don't know where the thunder could be personally. Just curious how the public receives it..... Ivan __________________ The Sizzle Build / Follow us on Facebook!! / Aut ism Speaks

09-13-2012, 09:31 AM	#8
MINI HLK Drives: LS A6 Join Date: May 2011 Location: Washington Posts: 1,844 View My Garage	DARN it... was just going to post this. Now the question is next August will I purchase a 1LE or will the vaunted Z28 be available... Mother of all Decisions. __________________ Mini Hulk Build

09-13-2012, 08:54 AM	#3
camaro2lt Drives: 2010 Camaro 2lt VR/RS CGM Rally's Join Date: May 2009 Location: palmyra pa Posts: 4,122 View My Garage	somethings coming................... cant wait too see what it is

09-13-2012, 09:11 AM	#6
RADREVX Drives: 2012 SS Join Date: May 2012 Location: FAIRPORT NY Posts: 253	id be all over that z28 like white on rice

09-13-2012, 09:44 AM	#10
jake2212 Drives: 2010 black Camaro 1SS/RS Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 364	i like the idea. i've grown up around z28s my whole life. mom had 3 of em, her current being a 2002 35th edition. i would love to see this in a 5th gen

09-13-2012, 10:02 AM	#12
Swacer Drives: 2012 Camaro 2SS/RS Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 1,601	It may also be that Chevy is renewing their patent on the Z28 name. It may mean nothing. __________________

09-13-2012, 10:05 AM	#13
HDRDTD Drives: 2013 Triple Black ZL1 Vert M6 ECF Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Trenton, Michigan Posts: 3,120	It could be that the Z28 will replace the LE in the 6th gen lineup.

09-13-2012, 10:14 AM	#15
caverman Drives: '69 SS Convertible Join Date: May 2009 Location: DFW, TX Posts: 6,349	I see no room for a Z/28 while the 1LE is being offered. After all, they are basically the same thing. Track cars. Maybe on the 6th Gen but I don't see it happening on the 5th Gen at all. __________________ *-2010 Camaro* 2SS \| M6 \| VR w/White Stripes \| 1 3/4" KOOKS - 3" Magnaflow \| LPE 3.91 gears \| ADM tuned \| Halltech w/ADM Scoop \| Spohn/BMR Trailing Arm/Toe Rod \| BC Coilovers\| Pedders FE4 ZL1 swaybars \| Cradle/Diff/Radius Rod bushings \| VMax TB \| Morimoto Projectors \| MGW shifter \| Red Calipers Build Journal

09-13-2012, 10:16 AM	#17
Nessal Drives: 2011 SS/RS Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: CA, Bay Area Posts: 2,249	IMO, GM totally fubar the names up. The current ZL1 should be the Z28 and they should produce a real ZL1 that dominates at the strip.

09-13-2012, 10:18 AM	#18
Ebbsnflows Drives: 2010 Camaro SS/RS Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: WNC Posts: 275	Shouldn't it fall in between the SS and the V6 like it did in the 4th gen cars? Perhaps offering the same motor as the SS, but fewer ammenities? __________________ 2010 Camaro SS: TSP 231/236 cam, Kooks LTs, Magnaflow 16580 catback, Airaid CAI, U/D pulley, P-TB, Pfadt-Stage 3, MTI shifter, MPD1 spoiler, S-S Splitter, 22" Nurburgrings 2001 Camaro Z28: ARE Forged S-block/PRC 2.5's/VRX-3 cam/Fast 90-90/QTP L-tubes/True Duals/FTRA/85mm Lid/12-bolt 4.30 gears/Full BMR adj. Suspension/6 point rollbar/Built T-56/McCleoud clutch/255lph pump/42 lb inj/N20 Express 125 shot 2006 Yamaha R1: Akro Full-length exhaust, Sprocket/PCIII, Speedo-Healer, Braided lines/EBC pads, Adj Rear-Sets, etc

09-13-2012, 10:57 AM	#23
monstertodd Allyourbasearebelongtous Drives: 2010 Cyber Grey Metallic 2SS/RS M6 Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Tega Cay, South Carolina Posts: 3,498 View My Garage	If the Z28 stays true to it's racing roots, it won't have magnetic ride suspension OR a supercharged engine. The 1LE will be a stopgap until the Z28 can be done "properly". One of the things that sucks about the ZL1 is that since it has magnetic ride suspension, it can't be used in any class of racing. Z28 needs to have normal racing suspension, less weight, and a naturally aspirated engine that ensures a proper power to weight ratio. Not a gigantic engine shoehorned into an overweight pig either (i.e. 5th gen). __________________

09-13-2012, 11:23 AM	#25
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