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Old 10-23-2013, 05:18 PM   #1
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LFX cam

Ok so I'm looking into maybe getting a cam in the future. I have a few questions though. What are some good cam "kits" as I guess they would be called, would be good kits for the maximal amount of WHP but retaining my car comfortably in the DD realm. Then what are the most cost effective kits with a reputable company backing them? Also would installing a can void my PT warranty? With a cam require a tune? I am assuming it would. Do tunes void warranties? Sorry for all the questions. If you need any other info let me know.
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Old 10-23-2013, 06:19 PM   #2
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There is only one company that is currently offering camS for the LFX engine, MACE Engineering in Australia. You have to replace 4 cams, not just one, it is relatively expensive. You will need a tune. Your PT warranty will most likely be void.
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Old 10-23-2013, 07:57 PM   #3
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Dang 40 rwhp for $1,200. That's really expensive in my mind.
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Dang 40 rwhp for $1,200. That's really expensive in my mind.
You are right, it is expensive, but its 4x the cams as say the V8 engine.

That said, I'm fairly certain a member here that is doing cams on his LFX says he got the cams from MACE for half of that....but that could be because technically they are still finalizing development and tuning on the cams and maybe its a temporary deal? I don't know.

So while it looks promising for the LFX, and it seems they will work, we are still waiting to see things tuning options and results, and also we have yet to see exactly how much power they can make.
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Old 10-26-2013, 03:02 PM   #6
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Interesting. Isn't there another can coming out for the lfx? I think they posted a thread on this site. How much did that kit cost.
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LMR is currently doing R&D on LFX cams/heads... What comes of it is yet to be determined. No prices yet, and I imagine it's going to take a while.
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LMR is currently doing R&D on LFX cams/heads... What comes of it is yet to be determined. No prices yet, and I imagine it's going to take a while.
Time is not an issue I'm 18 and it will take me awhile to save up while paying my car payment and gas!

Also how much do you think this kit would run? And someone like myself I have I would say a decent understanding of motors/engines and my future father-in-law has all of the necessary tools to put the cams in for sure but all of his experience is with carbureted engines. Would we be able to do this or is this simply over my head.
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Don't know how much it would run, I'm sure it won't be cheap as it's probably still 4 cams to be changed.

This is pretty vague, but to give you an idea of what would need to be done, check out this post: http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=314677 (camshaft removal in post #6)
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Don't know how much it would run, I'm sure it won't be cheap as it's probably still 4 cams to be changed.

This is pretty vague, but to give you an idea of what would need to be done, check out this post: http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=314677 (camshaft removal in post #6)
Gosh I'm assuming with changing FOUR cams it would be expensive to have someone else do it...
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Time is not an issue I'm 18 and it will take me awhile to save up while paying my car payment and gas!

Also how much do you think this kit would run? And someone like myself I have I would say a decent understanding of motors/engines and my future father-in-law has all of the necessary tools to put the cams in for sure but all of his experience is with carbureted engines. Would we be able to do this or is this simply over my head.
Gas ???? I have a 1LS and since our gears ratio is different I would think that you would be saving tons of money on Gas. I barely get 16mpg cause that is mixed with city and a little bit of highway. That is with me not over revving the engine and not having a lead foot.
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With how expensive the kits are because you're changing 4 cams, it honestly doesn't sound like it's worth it at all to do cams on the LFX for minimal gain. That's why there's not a lot of options available out in the market right now ... who wants to drop $1,200 for 40rwhp?






....... Then again, plenty of people on this site love to blow thousands of dollars for other overpriced BS that probably only gains them 10-15rwhp (many of the exhaust kits for the V6 crowd comes to mind) so I guess $1,200 for 40rwhp isn't that bad.

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Gas ???? I have a 1LS and since our gears ratio is different I would think that you would be saving tons of money on Gas. I barely get 16mpg cause that is mixed with city and a little bit of highway. That is with me not over revving the engine and not having a lead foot.
Only the 2LS has different gearing.

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With how expensive the kits are because you're changing 4 cams, it honestly doesn't sound like it's worth it at all to do cams on the LFX for minimal gain. That's why there's not a lot of options available out in the market right now ... who wants to drop $1,200 for 40rwhp?



....... Then again, plenty of people on this site love to blow thousands of dollars for other overpriced BS that probably only gains them 10-15rwhp (many of the exhaust kits for the V6 crowd comes to mind) so I guess $1,200 for 40rwhp isn't that bad.

This is actually a huge bang for the buck. Headers for the LLT (yes I know LFX can't do headers, it's an example) are about 700 and u get 15 hp. People are paying 6000 for 80 hp when they do a supercharger. At 1200 for 40 hp you'd be way ahead in the power/price ratio over these other mods. Hell even a CAI is 400 bucks for an 8hp gain?
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Only the 2LS has different gearing.



This is actually a huge bang for the buck. Headers for the LLT (yes I know LFX can't do headers, it's an example) are about 700 and u get 15 hp. People are paying 6000 for 80 hp when they do a supercharger. At 1200 for 40 hp you'd be way ahead in the power/price ratio over these other mods. Hell even a CAI is 400 bucks for an 8hp gain?
Agreed, 1200 is not terrible. But labor if not done myself would push you on the outer limits of the price/power echelon, or it would seem that way atleast.
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People are paying 6000 for 80 hp when they do a supercharger.
If I only got 80 more HP out of my S/C, I would be pissed off.

It's quite a bit more.

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This is actually a huge bang for the buck. Headers for the LLT (yes I know LFX can't do headers, it's an example) are about 700 and u get 15 hp. People are paying 6000 for 80 hp when they do a supercharger. At 1200 for 40 hp you'd be way ahead in the power/price ratio over these other mods. Hell even a CAI is 400 bucks for an 8hp gain?
First off, 80HP is a bit short...most gains I'm seeing are at least 100 - 120rwhp gain, so you should figure 120 - 150 crank HP gained.

Second...I just don't see cams + tune getting done for $1,200. I hope I'm wrong, but early on (and likely forever since cams won't be a big seller) I'm betting 1,500 to 2,000.

But anways, lets say you get 40rwhp with cams for 2,000. A SC install will typically run you around 5,500 to 6,000, but lets just say 6,000. Three times 40HP is 120HP. Three times 2,000 is 6,000.

So in reality, the ratio of cost looks like it could be the same for cams.
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First off, 80HP is a bit short...most gains I'm seeing are at least 100 - 120rwhp gain, so you should figure 120 - 150 crank HP gained.

Second...I just don't see cams + tune getting done for $1,200. I hope I'm wrong, but early on (and likely forever since cams won't be a big seller) I'm betting 1,500 to 2,000.

But anways, lets say you get 40rwhp with cams for 2,000. A SC install will typically run you around 5,500 to 6,000, but lets just say 6,000. Three times 40HP is 120HP. Three times 2,000 is 6,000.

So in reality, the ratio of cost looks like it could be the same for cams.
An installed system is no way 6000. The system itself without install isn't even 6000. It's 6095 before you factor in shipping. Shipping the system will probably be a good 75-100 dollars. Then you still have to pay for install. Which is about 10 hours labor if I'm not mistaken. So that's an extra 1000 in just labor. Which brings you price up to about 7125 for 100 hp like you guys said.
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First off, 80HP is a bit short...most gains I'm seeing are at least 100 - 120rwhp gain, so you should figure 120 - 150 crank HP gained.

Second...I just don't see cams + tune getting done for $1,200. I hope I'm wrong, but early on (and likely forever since cams won't be a big seller) I'm betting 1,500 to 2,000.

But anways, lets say you get 40rwhp with cams for 2,000. A SC install will typically run you around 5,500 to 6,000, but lets just say 6,000. Three times 40HP is 120HP. Three times 2,000 is 6,000.

So in reality, the ratio of cost looks like it could be the same for cams.


That's a good write up. That along with hopefully 3.91 rear gears, and I'll throw some serious power to the ground...
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Mine was under $6K installed.

'Cause I did it myself.

And I even had to pay sales tax.

Never measured it, but I'll bet I'm right about 400 rwhp, whereas I was probably 265-ish stock...

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'Cause I did it myself.

And I even had to pay sales tax.

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That was before they upped the price
Jus' sayin'. And I walked in and took it home with me. Plus Jesse cut me a break because I live in AZ and had to pay tax on it.

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Jus' sayin'. And I walked in and took it home with me. Plus Jesse cut me a break because I live in AZ and had to pay tax on it.

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Is a supercharger a complex and complicated instal?
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Is a supercharger a complex and complicated instal?
I did mine by myself, in my driveway, in two days. By trade I'm a wholesale floor covering territory manager. I've never been a mechanic. Make your own determination from that.

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An installed system is no way 6000. The system itself without install isn't even 6000. It's 6095 before you factor in shipping. Shipping the system will probably be a good 75-100 dollars. Then you still have to pay for install. Which is about 10 hours labor if I'm not mistaken. So that's an extra 1000 in just labor. Which brings you price up to about 7125 for 100 hp like you guys said.
I'm just going off of what I know, and what I know is the price the kit was. I don't know what the new price is...although it seems like I've come across a few sales and group buys they have had so I'm betting one could be had for around 6,000 or so.

No I wasn't factoring labor installation costs...I forgot about that probably because I'd be doing the labor myself or with the help of my brother who is a GM mechanic.
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or with the help of my brother who is a GM mechanic.
I couldn't work with my brother. He's an airline pilot/former fighter pilot/aeronautical engineer and would drive me absolutely up the wall with his anal retentiveness. I'll take him first choice as a pilot, though.

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