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Old 12-01-2009, 05:31 PM   #1
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JBA shorties just ordered

Yep, just ordered from MRT! Hopefully will see them soon, will do a few dyno runs then too!! Can't wait for this upgrade!!
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Old 12-01-2009, 05:42 PM   #2
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i wonder what ever happened to them posting results of their dyno?
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Old 12-01-2009, 05:45 PM   #3
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LOL, good question. Since JBA shorties seem to make good power on just about everything I've seen them on, I went ahead and took a chance, lol.

I just watched the BBK vid about the LT headers that they are going to make for the v6. On their dyno pull, the car barely reached 70mph before it redlined. I wonder what gear they did their pull in? I made mine in 4th, got it to hit the limiter, 155mph. Wonder if doing the pull in 3rd would change things?
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Old 12-01-2009, 05:46 PM   #4
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Mmray, i cant wait to see what youll end up doing to your car. Going to be a killer 6 thats for sure
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Old 12-01-2009, 05:58 PM   #5
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TJ..I have set a goal of 300rwhp and 300lbft of torque at the ground, naturally aspirated, if possible. If I can't get those numbers with axleback, shorties, intake and a tune, then I'm going balls out and getting a STS turbo sytem and tune!! Then I'm shooting for the stars, lol, 300rwhp be damned!


Seriously, I want 300^2 as I've come to call my goal. I would like to do it NA, as it would make for a sick, streetable car. Of course, n2o has been entertained as well. I think the 300^2 is reachable, the tuner is going to be the big question.
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Old 12-01-2009, 06:09 PM   #6
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i think you will reach 300, but i hope you dont.. STS sounds too good
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Old 12-01-2009, 06:10 PM   #7
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i think you will reach 300, but i hope you dont.. STS sounds too good


LMAO, that's what the guy who owns the dyno says!!
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Old 12-01-2009, 06:27 PM   #8
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I want to order the JBAs but wasn't really wanting to install them myself. Most things I will do myself but these I would probably want to have an exaust shop do. So I went to my most repuatble local exhaust shop, the only one i will let touch my cars and he said he won't install them. He said it gets in to way too much work and he will not attempt them on new cars. So I either have to go out of town for my install or try it myself.
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Old 12-01-2009, 06:35 PM   #9
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I want to order the JBAs but wasn't really wanting to install them myself. Most things I will do myself but these I would probably want to have an exaust shop do. So I went to my most repuatble local exhaust shop, the only one i will let touch my cars and he said he won't install them. He said it gets in to way too much work and he will not attempt them on new cars. So I either have to go out of town for my install or try it myself.
Man... shorties take about an hour to install on this car! There's tons of room to work in there... you could do that yourself if you have a decent set of sockets and extensions!
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to have these installed, do u just remove the old ones then add these, or do u have to order other parts as well?
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Old 12-01-2009, 06:46 PM   #11
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I always use new gaskets but I don't know for sure if they come with the kit or not. That should be it.....
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Old 12-01-2009, 06:50 PM   #12
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Man... shorties take about an hour to install on this car! There's tons of room to work in there... you could do that yourself if you have a decent set of sockets and extensions!
Cool man, thanks for the info. I will prolly just do it myself. I usually take on stuff like that but thought this might be tough. I plan on doing my own lowering so I should be able to handle this.
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Old 12-01-2009, 06:53 PM   #13
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Just make sure you have anti-seize and and a torque wrench handy (aluminum heads) and you'll do fine.
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If they dont come with gaskets you should be able to reuse the factory gasket.You will usually find out that most Performance Shops will reuse the stock gasteks before they use the gaskets that actually come with the header kits. The factory ones are usually steel gaskets and seal very well. Yes even though they have been used you will find them to still seal very well. Alot of aftermarket Header companies will send out gaskets with their headers, but they are usually a material type gasket that will harden a leak over time. The factory ones are usually the best because the Auto Manufacture can afford to tool up for a quailty gasket that is made to last.
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Old 12-02-2009, 07:36 AM   #15
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Okay, so I have access to a full lift and a huge selection of tools. Is it as simple as raising the car and literally unbolting the headers, removing the gasket, replacing gasket on new headers and then bolting back on? If so I will do myself. Otherwise I don't know if I trust myself....
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Old 12-02-2009, 07:59 AM   #16
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Okay, so I have access to a full lift and a huge selection of tools. Is it as simple as raising the car and literally unbolting the headers, removing the gasket, replacing gasket on new headers and then bolting back on? If so I will do myself. Otherwise I don't know if I trust myself....
As far as I know thats what it involves.... also there was a thread or comment somewhere on here about using special replacment bolts that dont expand and contract, that you should probably use to replace the stock ones with.
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Old 12-02-2009, 08:03 AM   #17
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Okay, so I have access to a full lift and a huge selection of tools. Is it as simple as raising the car and literally unbolting the headers, removing the gasket, replacing gasket on new headers and then bolting back on? If so I will do myself. Otherwise I don't know if I trust myself....
I saw an article somewhere on LT installs, and you do have to remove some stuff to get at the headers. If I remember correctly, the oil dipstick tube and spark plug wires, and one or more wiring harnesses were taken out/disconnected in order to make room.


Edit: found it: http://www.planetlsx.com/tech/How_To...0_Camaro_SS/98
It's for an SS, but I don't think it would be that much different. Remove everything in the way, remove old part, put in new one, connect everything back up.
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Old 12-02-2009, 08:26 AM   #18
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From the looks of my car, a lift is needed, or jackstands. One will have to remove heatshields, possibly the dipstick tube and of course, the old manifolds. The factory gasket is steel from the looks of it, hopefully, it'll be reuseable. One can reuse the stock hardware, but I might opt for ARP studs, and some antisieze! We'll see when I get to that point.

I didn't see any harnesses that would need removed, nor will the sparkplugs have to come out. If there are any harnesses that are in the way, they won't be hard to get out of the way, and if the plugs do have to come out, I might drop some E3s in.
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Old 12-02-2009, 10:06 AM   #19
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Yep, just ordered from MRT! Hopefully will see them soon, will do a few dyno runs then too!! Can't wait for this upgrade!!
Glad you took the plunge! These shorties will most likely be my final mod for awhile. I'm looking forward to your impressions once installed!
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Sounds like you have a good plan going i am interested in seeing this mod done before i decide on if i want to do this mod. I am looking to reach 300 rwhp as well getting a CAI, headers, tune, exhaust
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Man... shorties take about an hour to install on this car! There's tons of room to work in there... you could do that yourself if you have a decent set of sockets and extensions!
+1 super easy job. There is so much room.
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Old 12-02-2009, 11:43 AM   #22
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+1 super easy job. There is so much room.
Is Borla producing the GMPP shorties?
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Don't know who is producing them yet....
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GMPP has shorties? Hmmmm..oh well, hopefully the JBAs will be here soon! I will indeed give a full review, dyno results and vid clips of exhaust note, before and after!
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for the V8 - not for the V6
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