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Old 12-27-2011, 05:17 PM   #1
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AUTOMATIC with TAP SHIFT...

I ordered my ZL1 with Victory Red paint, exposed weave carbon fibre extractors, 5 spoke polished wheels, stripe kit & Hydra-Matic 6 speed automatic with Tap Shift. I didn't have much use for a power sunroof & I didn't care for the sueded microfibre shift knob/boot/steering wheel. Too bad I couldn't delete the sueded seating surfaces & have finished black leather, instead. I think that I have every curve at Nurburgring committed to memory.

Does anyone have photos of the ZL1's paddle shifters? Pictures seem to be as scarce as 3 legged ballerinas. The owner's manual shows a "nub" that appears to be attached to the steering wheel's horizontal struts on both sides. I assume that it's actually part of the steering wheel rather than two separate paddles behind the wheel? Are these tapped from behind or pressed in with the thumbs? Just kind of curious. Are there any issues going back & forth between "auto" & "manual" modes while in motion? I'm told that the auto is beefier than the manual Tremec & can take a good deal of "abuse".

Does anyone know how much the gas guzzler tax is for the manual vs the automatic?

From what I gather, the automatic has a higher top end (184mph) than the Tremec manual with skip shift & is quicker through the quarter & is faster to 60mph. I noticed a statement somewhere where V8s with automatics don't always run on 8 cylinders for better fuel economy. That feature isn't on the ZL1 is it?

Just curious & slightly off topic, but does anyone know the "approach angle" of the ZL1 with its somewhat low splitter/spoiler? I wish someone would come up with a 1: 16 scale model of this beast to keep me occupied until my Camaro comes in.

OK... back to Nurburgring. Someone ought to build an exact duplicate of that track here in the USA. ...just sayin'!
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Old 12-27-2011, 05:32 PM   #2
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Does anyone know how much the gas guzzler tax is for the manual vs the automatic?
$1,300 for manual and $2,600 for automatic
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Old 12-27-2011, 05:38 PM   #3
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I ordered my ZL1 with Victory Red paint, exposed weave carbon fibre extractors, 5 spoke polished wheels, stripe kit & Hydra-Matic 6 speed automatic with Tap Shift. I didn't have much use for a power sunroof & I didn't care for the sueded microfibre shift knob/boot/steering wheel. Too bad I couldn't delete the sueded seating surfaces & have finished black leather, instead. I think that I have every curve at Nurburgring committed to memory.

Does anyone have photos of the ZL1's paddle shifters? Pictures seem to be as scarce as 3 legged ballerinas. The owner's manual shows a "nub" that appears to be attached to the steering wheel's horizontal struts on both sides. I assume that it's actually part of the steering wheel rather than two separate paddles behind the wheel? Are these tapped from behind or pressed in with the thumbs? Just kind of curious. Are there any issues going back & forth between "auto" & "manual" modes while in motion? I'm told that the auto is beefier than the manual Tremec & can take a good deal of "abuse".

Does anyone know how much the gas guzzler tax is for the manual vs the automatic?

From what I gather, the automatic has a higher top end (184mph) than the Tremec manual with skip shift & is quicker through the quarter & is faster to 60mph. I noticed a statement somewhere where V8s with automatics don't always run on 8 cylinders for better fuel economy. That feature isn't on the ZL1 is it?

Just curious & slightly off topic, but does anyone know the "approach angle" of the ZL1 with its somewhat low splitter/spoiler? I wish someone would come up with a 1: 16 scale model of this beast to keep me occupied until my Camaro comes in.

OK... back to Nurburgring. Someone ought to build an exact duplicate of that track here in the USA. ...just sayin'!
I want to say they re-designed the paddle-shifter to look more like "paddles"...but I could be very wrong, because I can't find a single picture of them.

As for approach angle...no idea. But they have said the car has a ground clearance similar to that of a Z06 Corvette....

Both transmissions are extremely rugged, and will handle the ZL1's power well. Supposedly, they've drastically improved the automatic's response time so there's minimal delay when paddle shifting.
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Old 12-27-2011, 06:13 PM   #4
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I don't know for sure, but I'm thinking they are the same as the 2012 paddles.
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Old 12-27-2011, 06:14 PM   #5
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YES!!!

THOSE ARE THE PICTURES I COULDN'T FIND!!!

Thankyouthankyouthankyou!!!
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Old 12-27-2011, 06:29 PM   #6
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Are there any issues going back & forth between "auto" & "manual" modes while in motion?

I noticed a statement somewhere where V8s with automatics don't always run on 8 cylinders for better fuel economy. That feature isn't on the ZL1 is it?

OK... back to Nurburgring. Someone ought to build an exact duplicate of that track here in the USA. ...just sayin'!
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No issues going between auto and tap shift in motion. Put shifter into S mode then hit the tap shift to go into manual. Put shifter back into D to go back to auto. At least on my SS, should be the same.

Only the L99 in the auto SS has that feature. I'm glad the ZL1 doesn't, I tuned it out in my SS.

How bout KC area for the new Nurburgring, lol. You're not too far away from me. I think Heartland Park, KS is the closest good road track to you. I plan on going there when I get my ZL1.
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You guys are great on this site! Very informative. I recall Scott Settlemire saying something about the automatic and how it would make you stick lovers think twice about maybe getting the auto.

From the sounds of it, and reading between the lines, it sounds as if the auto will be tuned to maximize performance, somehow making the shifts between gears instant as possible therefore giving the driver maximum control. It's going to be very fun in my opinion!

Can't we all agree to call the A6 -
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Old 12-27-2011, 06:42 PM   #8
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I was looking at the picture of the steering wheel and noticed it has an SS on it. My 2012 2SS/RS TF3 wheel doesn't. Does anyone know why it would be different. Thank and sorry to jack the thread.
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Old 12-27-2011, 06:45 PM   #9
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So are the paddles connected to the stearing wheel or to the dash?
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Old 12-27-2011, 07:49 PM   #10
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Ok, yes these are the paddles that will be on the ZL1 for sure. I found a link that said "Steering mounted paddles" it is in one of my older threads because I had a couple hour disagreement with my68rs about the paddles on the ZL1. They will 100% be there and mounted on the steering wheel. The picture shown is of the new 2012 automatic L99. They all come with the paddles now. There is no option to get the buttons again. They are all paddles go to your local dealer and check it out.
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Old 12-27-2011, 08:06 PM   #11
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No issues going between auto and tap shift in motion. Put shifter into S mode then hit the tap shift to go into manual. Put shifter back into D to go back to auto. At least on my SS, should be the same.

Only the L99 in the auto SS has that feature. I'm glad the ZL1 doesn't, I tuned it out in my SS.

How bout KC area for the new Nurburgring, lol. You're not too far away from me. I think Heartland Park, KS is the closest good road track to you. I plan on going there when I get my ZL1.
you can just hold the upshift paddle in for a couple of secs and it with go back to sport automatic mode
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You guys are great on this site! Very informative. I recall Scott Settlemire saying something about the automatic and how it would make you stick lovers think twice about maybe getting the auto.

From the sounds of it, and reading between the lines, it sounds as if the auto will be tuned to maximize performance, somehow making the shifts between gears instant as possible therefore giving the driver maximum control. It's going to be very fun in my opinion!

Can't we all agree to call the A6 -
The Greatest Shifter of all Time...
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It should be tuned much better than the current A6 in the L99. The current A6 when used in Sport mode, is adaptive. What that means is the TCM looks at the current driving style you are using and adjust itself accordingly. For example if you were running an auto cross and hammering on the throttle, the trans in Sport mode will adjust it self by holding the gears longer and shifting harder when it does.
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Supposedly, they've drastically improved the automatic's response time so there's minimal delay when paddle shifting.
I hope they did some work on the paddle shifters. I had paddles in my 2009 Vette and there was a bit of a lag time between paddling and the car actually shifting. With that car, it was best to allow the computer to shift the car, versus paddling. Note that this was a bone stock car, with the normal factory tune.
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I hope they did some work on the paddle shifters. I had paddles in my 2009 Vette and there was a bit of a lag time between paddling and the car actually shifting. With that car, it was best to allow the computer to shift the car, versus paddling. Note that this was a bone stock car, with the normal factory tune.
That's exactly what causes lost control in tight situations. That is the advantage the stick has over the auto IMHO. So, if they got this right, they got it licked!
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