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carsismeZ06 · 07-13-2008, 08:07 PM

Okay, to let off some steam, and see what you guys think, I'm posting this rant. Okay, here it goes...

If you want a V8 Camaro in 2009, you will have to buy a Camaro SS. Buying a Camaro SS isn't so bad, but if you're like me, all you want is a Camaro with a V8 in it... that's it... no SS. It's not that I don't like SS Camaro's, it's just that I don't want anything special, but I DO want a V8, so I kinda have to resort to buying an SS. From there I might decide then that "Hey, maybe instead of getting a Camaro SS, I can settle with a V6 Camaro, and save a bit of cash!" which brings me to part two of my rant, the V6 muscle car.

When I think muscle car, I think a big ass, supercharged 427 V8 in a first gen. Camaro with one of those butterfly-valved intake thingies protruding from the hood. I don't think of all that with a V6 though. I think that the V8 is half the part of owning an old '60-'70's muscle car, and I want to get a muscle car. I'm really stuck in a pickle here. I don't want a Camaro SS, but I DO want a V8, although I probably won't have the money to get one anyway, so i'll have to get a V6, BUT the V6 MUST have those wheels that look like the ones in the concept, only smaller, which may or may not be an option, and I'm thinking it won't. Sigh...

*Mr. Wyndham* · 07-13-2008, 08:15 PM

I've read you saying this before...so I guess now would be a good time to ask. How come you don't want anything 'special'? I'd think that'd be a little bit of the thrill.

TheMadHatter99 · 07-13-2008, 08:19 PM

So, do I understand you correctly in that you want a V8 but you won't buy it because it will have two extra letters on the front grille?

Debadging really isn't all that difficult. And if you're referring to the changed front fascia we've been seeing in some spy pics, we don't know for sure that that's the SS' grille (so far as I know) and even then it won't be all that hard or expensive to convert the stock SS to a sleeper (which is what I think you're going for).

And so far as you're difficulties accepting a V6 as a muscle car, just keep in mind that it will be pushing out around 300 horses which is more than quite a few of the V8's on the market today and, in doing so it'll be lighter as well with a rumored 50/50 weight distribution.

Just keep thinking big picture and you'll be okay.

Captain Awesome · 07-13-2008, 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dragoneye

I've read you saying this before...so I guess now would be a good time to ask. How come you don't want anything 'special'? I'd think that'd be a little bit of the thrill.

Maybe his insurance would go higher because the SS is a special model?

Maybe he doesn't like the SS nose?

stovt001 · 07-13-2008, 09:59 PM

Insurance will be higher with a V8 regardless of what letters signify the model.

Debadging shouldn't be hard at all, though I guess that really depends on what they do to badge it in the first place.

And yeah, the Camaro isn't a muscle car. Its a pony car. There is a difference.

Cessna510 · 07-13-2008, 10:09 PM

Is this what your saying?... "hey forget the SS package" and give me a V8 with some 16" steel rims,cloth, no cd or sound system, no power anything just a base v8. I mean this would be great if your budget won't allow for a 28k + SS, but if you have a stigma about the SS thats an easy fix as said above.

The_Beast_ · 07-14-2008, 04:01 AM

wait I thought there was going to be a V6, a base V8 then the SS and then The Z28

*Mr. Wyndham* · 07-14-2008, 09:28 AM

As far as most everyone's assuming, the 'base' V8 is the SS.

Chevyrocker · 07-14-2008, 10:25 AM

we will all know in 8 days...I will be there for the broadcast from GM and I will try to record bits and pieces on my cell phone to share it with you all!

carsismeZ06 · 07-14-2008, 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dragoneye

I've read you saying this before...so I guess now would be a good time to ask. How come you don't want anything 'special'? I'd think that'd be a little bit of the thrill.

I think it WOULD be a thrill, but depending on the price...

*The_Blur* · 07-14-2008, 01:04 PM

You can always debadge it. Just get the [speculated] SS (Z28, if that turns out to be the V8) and pull off the badges. You'll have the whole sleeper appeal.

*DGthe3* · 07-15-2008, 11:10 PM

I don't want an SS either. But I would rather have a Z28 than a simple V8 Camaro. However, there isn't much of a chance of there being a 'noname' V8. It is expected to be either the Z28 or the SS. Even if GM was considering this, the various forums have assumed it will be SS or Z28 for so long that GM will probably adopt one or the other.

The_Beast_ · 07-16-2008, 03:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dragoneye

As far as most everyone's assuming, the 'base' V8 is the SS.

quite honestly thats just stupid.

. As far as I can remember the SS has always been the next step after the V8, so changing it now owuld been just down right dumb. So I guess Im gonna get flamed now.

Cessna510 · 07-16-2008, 03:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The_Beast_

quite honestly thats just stupid.

. As far as I can remember the SS has always been the next step after the V8, so changing it now owuld been just down right dumb. So I guess Im gonna get flamed now.

.......

07-13-2008, 08:07 PM	#1
carsismeZ06 Corvette and Camaro lover Drives: 2010 Camaro...some day... Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Ohio Posts: 983	Camaro Rant Okay, to let off some steam, and see what you guys think, I'm posting this rant. Okay, here it goes... If you want a V8 Camaro in 2009, you will have to buy a Camaro SS. Buying a Camaro SS isn't so bad, but if you're like me, all you want is a Camaro with a V8 in it... that's it... no SS. It's not that I don't like SS Camaro's, it's just that I don't want anything special, but I DO want a V8, so I kinda have to resort to buying an SS. From there I might decide then that "Hey, maybe instead of getting a Camaro SS, I can settle with a V6 Camaro, and save a bit of cash!" which brings me to part two of my rant, the V6 muscle car. When I think muscle car, I think a big ass, supercharged 427 V8 in a first gen. Camaro with one of those butterfly-valved intake thingies protruding from the hood. I don't think of all that with a V6 though. I think that the V8 is half the part of owning an old '60-'70's muscle car, and I want to get a muscle car. I'm really stuck in a pickle here. I don't want a Camaro SS, but I DO want a V8, although I probably won't have the money to get one anyway, so i'll have to get a V6, BUT the V6 *MUST* have those wheels that look like the ones in the concept, only smaller, which may or may not be an option, and I'm thinking it won't. Sigh... __________________

07-13-2008, 08:15 PM	#2
Mr. Wyndham I used to be Dragoneye... Drives: 2018 ZL1 1LE Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 31,873 View My Garage	I've read you saying this before...so I guess now would be a good time to ask. How come you don't want anything 'special'? I'd think that'd be a little bit of the thrill. __________________ *"Keep the faith."* - Fbodfather

07-13-2008, 08:19 PM	#3
TheMadHatter99 Kept the Faith Drives: '10 Camaro 2SS/RS CGM Join Date: May 2007 Location: Jacksonville, FL Posts: 721 View My Garage	So, do I understand you correctly in that you want a V8 but you won't buy it because it will have two extra letters on the front grille? Debadging really isn't all that difficult. And if you're referring to the changed front fascia we've been seeing in some spy pics, we don't know for sure that that's the SS' grille (so far as I know) and even then it won't be all that hard or expensive to convert the stock SS to a sleeper (which is what I think you're going for). And so far as you're difficulties accepting a V6 as a muscle car, just keep in mind that it will be pushing out around 300 horses which is more than quite a few of the V8's on the market today and, in doing so it'll be lighter as well with a rumored 50/50 weight distribution. Just keep thinking big picture and you'll be okay. __________________

07-13-2008, 09:59 PM	#5
stovt001 Drives: 2006 Cobalt, 2004 Taurus wagon Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: California Posts: 3,810	Insurance will be higher with a V8 regardless of what letters signify the model. Debadging shouldn't be hard at all, though I guess that really depends on what they do to badge it in the first place. And yeah, the Camaro isn't a muscle car. Its a pony car. There is a difference. __________________ "It's kind of fun to do the impossible" - Walt Disney There's a great big beautiful tomorrow shining at the end of every day There's a great big beautiful tomorrow Just a dream away

07-14-2008, 09:28 AM	#8
Mr. Wyndham I used to be Dragoneye... Drives: 2018 ZL1 1LE Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 31,873 View My Garage	As far as most everyone's assuming, the 'base' V8 is the SS. __________________ *"Keep the faith."* - Fbodfather

07-13-2008, 10:09 PM	#6
Cessna510 Gm loyalist Drives: 04 z71 tahoe\99 SS m6 Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Baxter Springs Ks Posts: 362	Is this what your saying?... "hey forget the SS package" and give me a V8 with some 16" steel rims,cloth, no cd or sound system, no power anything just a base v8. I mean this would be great if your budget won't allow for a 28k + SS, but if you have a stigma about the SS thats an easy fix as said above.

07-14-2008, 10:25 AM	#9
Chevyrocker Weekend Rockstar Drives: Depends on the day... Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: West Palm Beach Posts: 1,442	we will all know in 8 days...I will be there for the broadcast from GM and I will try to record bits and pieces on my cell phone to share it with you all!

07-14-2008, 01:04 PM	#11
The_Blur Moderator Drives: 2018 Harley-Davidson Street Bob Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: San Diego Posts: 14,768	You can always debadge it. Just get the [speculated] SS (Z28, if that turns out to be the V8) and pull off the badges. You'll have the whole sleeper appeal. __________________ RDP Motorsport//GEN5DIY//Cultrag Performance//JPSS//Rodgets Chevrolet// Operation Demon//Buy at Invoice//RACECARWEAR RESPECT ALL CARS. LOVE YOUR OWN. warn 145:159 ban Last edited by The_Blur; 07-14-2008 at 02:14 PM.

07-15-2008, 11:10 PM	#12
DGthe3 Moderator.ca Drives: 05 Grand Am GT Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Niagara, Canada Posts: 25,366	I don't want an SS either. But I would rather have a Z28 than a simple V8 Camaro. However, there isn't much of a chance of there being a 'noname' V8. It is expected to be either the Z28 or the SS. Even if GM was considering this, the various forums have assumed it will be SS or Z28 for so long that GM will probably adopt one or the other. __________________ Note, if I've gotten any facts wrong in the above, just ignore any points I made with them __________________ Originally Posted by FbodFather My sister's dentist's brother's cousin's housekeeper's dog-breeder's nephew sells coffee filters to the company that provides coffee to General Motors...... ........and HE WOULD KNOW!!!! __________________ Camaro Fest sub-forum

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