POLL: ZL1 Shifter Stock vs Aftermarket - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

1BADZL1 · 07-30-2011, 05:35 PM

Well since we know we are getting a new shifter for ZL1, its not growing on me. Too long of a handle. I would much prefer a shorter handle or a shorter throw shifter even. There are some neat after market ones out there.
I like the look of the new factory hurst shifter. But we do not even know if the factory hurst will be an option at this point.

So, how many of you if and when you get your ZL1 will be looking at changing out the shifter to either a hurst factory or After market shifter, and pros and conns of each?

Ron66Vette&10SS · 07-30-2011, 05:45 PM

Too early to tell, but I agree that the stock shifter looks WAY TOO TALL in the pics. I'm curious as to if it's just an optical illusion or not.

Hell, it looks taller than my stock (non Hurst) shifter

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Shurenuff · 07-30-2011, 06:39 PM

I'll be getting an MGW shifter with the retro black ball. I've heard nothing but great thing about them. I'll just have to wait until they release a shifter ball with the ZL1 logo. As soon as they do, I'm on that like flies on you know what.

Here's an install thread from an SS owner that has some nice pics.

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=126642

1BADZL1 · 07-30-2011, 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shurenuff

I'll be getting an MGW shifter with the retro black ball. I've heard nothing but great thing about them. I'll just will have to wait until they release a shifter ball with the ZL1 logo. As soon as they do, I'm on that like flies on you know what.

Here's an install thread from an SS owner that has some nice pics.

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=126642

Shurenuff, I am with you. Subscribed to that thread too.
Im gonna say im gonna go with either the MGW or hurst option.
But like you say if they come out with the ZL1 logo for the ball, It might be all it takes for me. That MGW is a good looking shifter indeed.

Shurenuff · 07-30-2011, 08:02 PM

Here's another good thread with opinions on the stock SS shifter versus the aftermarket Hurst and MGW. Pretty good reading.

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...ighlight=hurst

BiggFoot · 07-30-2011, 09:57 PM

Never used one but when I was talking to a Lingenfelter sales rep he suggested that they have had good results with a MTI short throw.

Civilian · 07-30-2011, 10:53 PM

This is what I had on my '67 made ripping it into second very fast!

1BADZL1 · 07-30-2011, 11:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Civilian

This is what I had on my '67 made ripping it into second very fast!

I don't think that same Muncie 4 speed technology shifters of back then will work with the 5th gen Tremac....

KLR ZL1 · 07-31-2011, 11:04 AM

I will be removing my MGW from the SS and reinstalling in the ZL1. The ZL1 will most likely have the hurst already available on the SS. I don't see GM puting a different one in it with existing inventory. But I will wait to see how it feels. The MGW is a whole lot better than just a shaft change.

1BADZL1 · 07-31-2011, 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackonblack2010

I will be removing my MGW from the SS and reinstalling in the ZL1. The ZL1 will most likely have the hurst already available on the SS. I don't see GM puting a different one in it with existing inventory. But I will wait to see how it feels. The MGW is a whole lot better than just a shaft change.

How does the MGW compare to the factory hurst?
Just curious. Is it a "softer" feel?

ShnOmac · 07-31-2011, 03:49 PM

Lets not forget this is a pre-production car... what we see may not be the same at the start of production!

KLR ZL1 · 07-31-2011, 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MY68RS

How does the MGW compare to the factory hurst?
Just curious. Is it a "softer" feel?

I had a lot of missed second to third shifts with the stock shifter, now I haven't missed one yet. The shifter has a very strong centering spring so it likes to go to center easier unlike the Hurst which felt real sloppy in neutral and I have tried new ones in new off the lot Camaro. One of the reasons I went with the MGW was the craftmanship and also it replaces the whole shifter not just the shaft. This thing is like a piece of art when I saw it in person, I am really impressed. It did take some getting used to at first, but it did not take long, just the drive home from ARD across town. I recommend this to anyone that is considering a short throw for their Camaro. But to answer your question the Hurst to me feels the same as stock just a little shorter throws because it is just a shaft swapout. That was the thing with me I wanted to feel the difference for myself. Our club,s ( H-town Camaro club) president is a sales manager for a dealership here in the Houston area and always brings a Camaro out to a lot of the meets we go to so I got to try a brand new from factory Hurst installed shifter.

mike25 · 07-31-2011, 10:37 PM

i say let the car come out and go from there..no sense in "mind" modding a zl1when really no one has even driven one.

1BADZL1 · 08-01-2011, 12:24 AM

Then we will sit here till the first part of March and do what?

View Poll Results: Will you be changing out your shifter in your ZL1?
No. I will be keeping the stock shifter with the ZL1	7	28.00%
Yes! I will want a after market shifter for ZL1	13	52.00%
Yes! I would like a factory hurst unit for ZL1	7	28.00%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 25. You may not vote on this poll

07-30-2011, 05:35 PM	#1
1BADZL1 THE CAMARO KING Drives: 2012 Camaro ZL1 on order #PZSD7S Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Out Somewhere Driving My 'BADZL1' Posts: 2,281	POLL: ZL1 Shifter Stock vs Aftermarket Well since we know we are getting a new shifter for ZL1, its not growing on me. Too long of a handle. I would much prefer a shorter handle or a shorter throw shifter even. There are some neat after market ones out there. I like the look of the new factory hurst shifter. But we do not even know if the factory hurst will be an option at this point. So, how many of you if and when you get your ZL1 will be looking at changing out the shifter to either a hurst factory or After market shifter, and pros and conns of each? __________________ 2012 Camaro ZL1 Car Name: Bruce ZL1, LSA, MN6/MG9, DSX, RTQ, VR, Current Status: 2030 1000 Initial Order 11/11/2011 Chevyland 1100 Order accepted at dealer: 11/11/2011 - PZSD7S 2000 Order accepted by GM: 12/14/2011 3000 Accepted By Production Control: 00/00/2011 - TPW 00/00/2011 3100 Sequenced: 00/00/2011 3300 Scheduled For Production:0/0/2012 3400 Broadcast: 0/0/2012 3800 Produced: 0/0/2012 4000 Available To Ship: 0/0/2012 4200 Shipped: 0/0/2012 5000 Delivered To The Dealer: 0/0/2012 6000 Delivered To Customer:0/0/2012

07-30-2011, 05:45 PM	#2
Ron66Vette&10SS Plays with Hot Wheels Drives: '17 Jet Black ZL1 Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Derby, Kansas Posts: 849	Too early to tell, but I agree that the stock shifter looks WAY TOO TALL in the pics. I'm curious as to if it's just an optical illusion or not. Hell, it looks taller than my stock (non Hurst) shifter . __________________ Previous Cars: '78 Z28, '92 Z28, '95 Z28, '85 Corvette, '01 SS, '96 Z28, '04 Z06 Corvette, '10 SS, '13 SS Hot Wheels Current Cars: '17 ZL1(daily driver), '04 Trailblazer (rain & snow), '66 Corvette (restoring)

07-30-2011, 06:39 PM	#3
Shurenuff Drives: 2002 Nissan Altima Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 2,048	I'll be getting an MGW shifter with the retro black ball. I've heard nothing but great thing about them. I'll just have to wait until they release a shifter ball with the ZL1 logo. As soon as they do, I'm on that like flies on you know what. Here's an install thread from an SS owner that has some nice pics. http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=126642 __________________ Factory Badassery Last edited by Shurenuff; 07-30-2011 at 06:59 PM.

07-30-2011, 08:02 PM	#5
Shurenuff Drives: 2002 Nissan Altima Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 2,048	Here's another good thread with opinions on the stock SS shifter versus the aftermarket Hurst and MGW. Pretty good reading. http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...ighlight=hurst __________________ Factory Badassery

07-30-2011, 09:57 PM	#6
BiggFoot Drives: 2010 Camaro (M6) 1000+ HP SBE Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 1,391	Never used one but when I was talking to a Lingenfelter sales rep he suggested that they have had good results with a MTI short throw.

07-30-2011, 10:53 PM	#7
Civilian Drives: Fast Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Sunny So-Cal Posts: 25	This is what I had on my '67 made ripping it into second very fast!

07-31-2011, 11:04 AM	#9
KLR ZL1 H-Town Camaro Club Member Drives: 17 Hyper Blue Metallic KLR-ZL1 Join Date: May 2009 Location: Pearland Tx. Posts: 2,034 View My Garage	I will be removing my MGW from the SS and reinstalling in the ZL1. The ZL1 will most likely have the hurst already available on the SS. I don't see GM puting a different one in it with existing inventory. But I will wait to see how it feels. The MGW is a whole lot better than just a shaft change. __________________

07-31-2011, 03:49 PM	#11
ShnOmac Drives: 2006 Silverado SS, 2009 G8 GT Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: PNW Posts: 13,313	Lets not forget this is a pre-production car... what we see may not be the same at the start of production!

07-31-2011, 10:37 PM	#13
mike25 Drives: 2012 Camaro 2SS/RS Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Dubba V Posts: 2,869	i say let the car come out and go from there..no sense in "mind" modding a zl1when really no one has even driven one. __________________ 2LT/RS M6 CGM VIN#53104 SOLD 2012 Black 2SS/RS w/ Hurst- Mods: Corsa catback, SSE, Vararam

08-01-2011, 12:24 AM	#14
1BADZL1 THE CAMARO KING Drives: 2012 Camaro ZL1 on order #PZSD7S Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Out Somewhere Driving My 'BADZL1' Posts: 2,281	Then we will sit here till the first part of March and do what? __________________ 2012 Camaro ZL1 Car Name: Bruce ZL1, LSA, MN6/MG9, DSX, RTQ, VR, Current Status: 2030 1000 Initial Order 11/11/2011 Chevyland 1100 Order accepted at dealer: 11/11/2011 - PZSD7S 2000 Order accepted by GM: 12/14/2011 3000 Accepted By Production Control: 00/00/2011 - TPW 00/00/2011 3100 Sequenced: 00/00/2011 3300 Scheduled For Production:0/0/2012 3400 Broadcast: 0/0/2012 3800 Produced: 0/0/2012 4000 Available To Ship: 0/0/2012 4200 Shipped: 0/0/2012 5000 Delivered To The Dealer: 0/0/2012 6000 Delivered To Customer:0/0/2012

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