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SFcamaro · 01-18-2012, 02:33 PM

Is it just me or does the ss camaro seem like it should burn the tires a bit more when you stomp the gas at a 10 mile per hour roll in 1st gear, driving a manual.

I think its the traction control. I do have it completely off (holding it down for 7 seconds until both indicators show on the rpm gauge). I think even though it's off there is some type of traction control still on, or the computer system in the car is optimizing the take off. Because, if I help the car out a bit by pressing in the clutch just a bit it seems to remove the traction control and I can break the tires loose very easily while at a 10 mph roll.

On some of the older vehicles before they had the ECU. I've have it in first gear and it would definately burn out. These vehicles also had about 200 less horsepower.

cab2g · 01-18-2012, 02:39 PM

yes, even with traction control and stabilitrack, torque management is still active. It's to protect the internal engine components, and I am willing to bet they made it even more annoying after the broken driveshaft issues on early 2010's... but if you're going from a roll and just mashing the gas, it may just be how sticky the tires are that is causing the tires not to break loose easily... I bet if you went to 10mph fully disengaged the clutch, increased the rpms to 5k, and then re-engaged the clutch quickly you'll break those tires loose...

SFcamaro · 01-18-2012, 02:48 PM

Ah, its the torque management. A quick search on google had some discussions on it.

Someone said they removed the torque management on a SS Trailblazer and his trans was toast in a month.

VTXrider · 01-18-2012, 03:00 PM

+1 on Torque Managment. It is not necessary to disable it. Most people seem to be very happy just turning it down. You can adjust it down how you like it, of course this is through tuning so you loose the warranty.

The Stig · 01-18-2012, 03:20 PM

have you done a fuse pull yet?

SFcamaro · 01-18-2012, 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stieger

have you done a fuse pull yet?

Yep

evilbeef54 · 01-18-2012, 04:18 PM

mine on a stock tune will get the rear end loose fairly easy with traction control off

The Stig · 01-18-2012, 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SFcamaro

Yep

Recently? I do one about every other month. But I'm also paranoid.

cab2g · 01-18-2012, 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stieger

Recently? I do one about every other month. But I'm also paranoid.

lol, definitely paranoid. If the car was designed so poorly to require you to pull a fuse regularly to perform as designed, it wouldn't be worth owning.

SFcamaro · 01-18-2012, 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cab2g

lol, definitely paranoid. If the car was designed so poorly to require you to pull a fuse regularly to perform as designed, it wouldn't be worth owning.

Its the gas

ron10 · 01-18-2012, 06:08 PM

that thing should burn the tires off with everything turned off.my A6 will get out from under you real quick with everything off.

ffrcobra_65 · 01-18-2012, 06:10 PM

even before I supercharged my car....with everything turned off, I was able to easily leave long tire burn marks.

NYJETSFAN · 01-18-2012, 08:10 PM

I have not had any issues burning mine up with the traction control off..

KEEP RT · 01-18-2012, 09:08 PM

My M6 will light them up easy at 25 to 30 with T/C on. For short periods till T/C kicks in. No tune and just Vararam intake for performance mods. Easier with it off.

01-18-2012, 02:33 PM	#1
SFcamaro Drives: 2010 Camaro SS 6M Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Tx Posts: 250	Too much traction control Is it just me or does the ss camaro seem like it should burn the tires a bit more when you stomp the gas at a 10 mile per hour roll in 1st gear, driving a manual. I think its the traction control. I do have it completely off (holding it down for 7 seconds until both indicators show on the rpm gauge). I think even though it's off there is some type of traction control still on, or the computer system in the car is optimizing the take off. Because, if I help the car out a bit by pressing in the clutch just a bit it seems to remove the traction control and I can break the tires loose very easily while at a 10 mph roll. On some of the older vehicles before they had the ECU. I've have it in first gear and it would definately burn out. These vehicles also had about 200 less horsepower.

01-18-2012, 02:39 PM	#2
cab2g love. my. car. Drives: 2011 2SS/RS Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Chicago Posts: 3,372 View My Garage	yes, even with traction control and stabilitrack, torque management is still active. It's to protect the internal engine components, and I am willing to bet they made it even more annoying after the broken driveshaft issues on early 2010's... but if you're going from a roll and just mashing the gas, it may just be how sticky the tires are that is causing the tires not to break loose easily... I bet if you went to 10mph fully disengaged the clutch, increased the rpms to 5k, and then re-engaged the clutch quickly you'll break those tires loose... __________________

01-18-2012, 03:00 PM	#4
VTXrider Drives: 2010 RY 2SS/RS Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Miami Posts: 828	+1 on Torque Managment. It is not necessary to disable it. Most people seem to be very happy just turning it down. You can adjust it down how you like it, of course this is through tuning so you loose the warranty. __________________

01-18-2012, 03:20 PM	#5
The Stig knows 2 facts about ducks Drives: ...and they're both wrong Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: The HMS Invincible Posts: 25,072 View My Garage	have you done a fuse pull yet? __________________

01-18-2012, 04:18 PM	#7
evilbeef54 tail lights for u Drives: Bumble Bee 2010 2SS/RS Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Where ever USCG sends me Posts: 370	mine on a stock tune will get the rear end loose fairly easy with traction control off __________________ 1972 Camaro 350/Muncie M22 - SOLD 1986 Camaro RS - R.I.P. 1994 Camaro Z28 - SOLD 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS RY M6- LOVIN' it Kooks LT's & HFC's, Flowmaster Single chamber mufflers, C.A.I. Intake, ADM Scoop, Rotofab w/w relocate Semper Paratus You have to go out You don't have to come back!!!

01-18-2012, 02:48 PM	#3
SFcamaro Drives: 2010 Camaro SS 6M Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Tx Posts: 250	Ah, its the torque management. A quick search on google had some discussions on it. Someone said they removed the torque management on a SS Trailblazer and his trans was toast in a month.

01-18-2012, 06:08 PM	#11
ron10 Drives: 2010 2SS IOM L99 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: LOUISVILLE,KY.. Posts: 7,545	that thing should burn the tires off with everything turned off.my A6 will get out from under you real quick with everything off.

01-18-2012, 06:10 PM	#12
ffrcobra_65 Account Suspended Drives: SuperCharged 2SS/RS IOM MN6 Join Date: May 2009 Location: CA Posts: 5,094	even before I supercharged my car....with everything turned off, I was able to easily leave long tire burn marks.

01-18-2012, 08:10 PM	#13
NYJETSFAN El Hefe Drives: Black Camaro 2SS/RS Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Maryland Posts: 1,067	I have not had any issues burning mine up with the traction control off..

01-18-2012, 09:08 PM	#14
KEEP RT Wonderfully Awful Idea Drives: 2010 2SS/RS Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Battle Ground, WA Posts: 1,456 View My Garage	My M6 will light them up easy at 25 to 30 with T/C on. For short periods till T/C kicks in. No tune and just Vararam intake for performance mods. Easier with it off. __________________

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