Shno's House of Z

[boxmonkeyracing]

This is the thread that will never end. lol. I enjoy reading what you all think and why. I'm hoping that soon I can catch up on the info presented here and get back in tune with the camaro community and line up. because this speak of when the 6th gen is coming isn't the last thing I heard. but that was months ago. so I know things change. lol. oh well. in time comes knowledge.

[2cnd chance]

One's faith only last so long and only goes so far.

[Number 3]

Originally Posted by JusticePete

I am not sure of all the details, but GMPP crate motors are by design not compatible with the OEM wiring and BCM. I think it is an EPA thing. Those that do the conversion have tow options. One would be a black box / wiring harness solution. The other is to use different gauges i.e. Autometer. Perhaps #3 can weigh with more specific information.

I am far from knowledgable but I know many of the crate motors are EPA certified. I also thought they either came with the ecu or were compatible. But it's a good question for sure.

Originally Posted by MisterCamaro69

Did you imagine you'd be saying that when you started it?

"Zee Whores Anonymous"

I honestly thought it would just get us over the hump of the initial ZL1 hysteria. Who knew the hystrionics would last this long.

Perhaps some day I'll tell you all the real impact this thread has had on me and where I am in my life right now.

Originally Posted by boxmonkeyracing

This is the thread that will never end. lol. I enjoy reading what you all think and why. I'm hoping that soon I can catch up on the info presented here and get back in tune with the camaro community and line up. because this speak of when the 6th gen is coming isn't the last thing I heard. but that was months ago. so I know things change. lol. oh well. in time comes knowledge.

Always good to hear from you. Hopefully you can catch us up on your travels as well.

Originally Posted by 2cnd chance

One's faith only last so long and only goes so far.

But long and far can be increased by strong will and effort. That being said at some point you run out of gas.

[boxmonkeyracing]

Originally Posted by Number 3

Always good to hear from you. Hopefully you can catch us up on your travels as well.

well got back from a deployment back in Oct and headed out again shortly. lol. I live overseas. at least that's been how I feel the last couple years. other then that nothing really new with me. but the community here has changed a lot.

[Number 3]

Originally Posted by boxmonkeyracing

well got back from a deployment back in Oct and headed out again shortly. lol. I live overseas. at least that's been how I feel the last couple years. other then that nothing really new with me. but the community here has changed a lot.

Well glad to hear you are well. Can you say where you are going to be?

[Mr. Wyndham]

Originally Posted by JusticePete

Vette tears up track = dog bites man

Z/28 tears up 'entry level' Vette = man bites BIG dog

I don't buy this Chevy will never let the Camaro be faster than the Vette. As long as the Camaro cost more than the Vette is beats, let them have at it and may the best Chevy TEAM win

I don't think it's a case of never...hell, the ZL1 will annihilate a base Vette on a road course, track, whatever...all for a touch less if you option the latter up...

I think it's a case of .... if you have it - use it! They have their resources currently split over three very distinct performance lines right now: Corvette, Camaro & V Cadillacs. Ford can pour a scalable amount of money into ONLY their Mustang line to result in one awfully potent business case.

GM, however, has that inherent advantage of a Corvette waiting in the wings...I say use it!!

Originally Posted by LOWDOWN

Concerning the 1LE:

The POLL To End ALL Polls! http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...67#post4443167

Let 'em know...

Voted!!

Originally Posted by boxmonkeyracing

well got back from a deployment back in Oct and headed out again shortly. lol. I live overseas. at least that's been how I feel the last couple years. other then that nothing really new with me. but the community here has changed a lot.

It's gotten much...MUCH bigger, if nothing else....and louder ....events in the auto industry have given us a period of performance with more passion and enthusiasm baked-in then I think has ever existed...

[Number 3]

Originally Posted by JusticePete

Vette tears up track = dog bites man

Z/28 tears up 'entry level' Vette = man bites BIG dog

I don't buy this Chevy will never let the Camaro be faster than the Vette. As long as the Camaro cost more than the Vette is beats, let them have at it and may the best Chevy TEAM win

I think you are right, but $ for $ the Vette will be king and the Vette will always be the most potent weapon. There is just so much more flexibility with the lower mass and CG a 2 sweater can offer.

Keep in mind the Fiero was neutered to be a cheap computer car using Citation and Chevette chassis bits because Chevy wouldn't allow it.

Also I can tell you there was a huge ongoing battle around the XLR being the tail that wagged the dog so to speak for the C6 that followed a year later.

So if there is room to grow with the Camaro, I doubt it will ever top the top of the line Corvette................but that is only my opinion and opinions are like a$$ holes, everyone has one.

[JusticePete]

Originally Posted by Number 3

I think you are right, but $ for $ the Vette will be king and the Vette will always be the most potent weapon. There is just so much more flexibility with the lower mass and CG a 2 sweater can offer.

Keep in mind the Fiero was neutered to be a cheap computer car using Citation and Chevette chassis bits because Chevy wouldn't allow it.

Also I can tell you there was a huge ongoing battle around the XLR being the tail that wagged the dog so to speak for the C6 that followed a year later.

So if there is room to grow with the Camaro, I doubt it will ever top the top of the line Corvette................but that is only my opinion and opinions are like a$$ holes, everyone has one.

I don't want to top the ZR1 with the hottest Camaro, just the budget versions of the ZR1.

[2cnd chance]

Originally Posted by Number 3

I am far from knowledgable but I know many of the crate motors are EPA certified. I also thought they either came with the ecu or were compatible. But it's a good question for sure.




I honestly thought it would just get us over the hump of the initial ZL1 hysteria. Who knew the hystrionics would last this long.

Perhaps some day I'll tell you all the real impact this thread has had on me and where I am in my life right now.



Always good to hear from you. Hopefully you can catch us up on your travels as well.



But long and far can be increased by strong will and effort. That being said at some point you run out of gas.

I'd like to pop the top on a cold one with ya and hear about it.

Yes your final quote can be applied to much. I've got a story as well.

[ShnOmac]

Originally Posted by Number 3

Perhaps some day I'll tell you all the real impact this thread has had on me and where I am in my life right now.

Originally Posted by boxmonkeyracing

but the community here has changed a lot.

Originally Posted by Dragoneye

It's gotten much...MUCH bigger, if nothing else....and louder ..

As we like to say.... As the village grows so does the chance for village idiots.

[Amenti]

Originally Posted by ShnOmac

As we like to say.... As the village grows so does the chance for village idiots.

That's a brilliant quote.

I was turned onto this site some months after I purchased my 1LT in January of 2010. Since then, I've caught Camaro-mod-fever and have done a great deal of research, mostly directly from or via this site. There's actually so much useful information from so many authoritative sources (assuming you can separate the chaff from the wheat), that I've learned a great deal about automobiles in general.

There may be more village idiots crowding the forums; but, for the most part, the quality participants (vendors, tuners, shops, insiders, experienced DIY'ers, good folks) are still here and very vocal. I really appreciate that about this site.

[Number 3]

Hey, any other threads pushing 200,000 views that don't involve scantily clad women? Just askin'

[JusticePete]

Originally Posted by Number 3

Hey, any other threads pushing 200,000 views that don't involve scantily clad women? Just askin'

I thought this was a family website? Where are the scantily clad women? Do they involve Kate BeckinZale? Just askin'

[LOWDOWN]

Gotta throw this out here...'cause we're amongst friends, right?

I was invited, today, to a "ride 'n drive"...E350 4Matic...A6 Quattro...535 Xi...new '13 Lexus GS 350...

Cadillac needs a modern replacement for the formerly (20 years ago) Top Dog STS, and if they ask me for my vote, this new GS is gonna change some people's perspective. Missing only an 8-speed Automatic from being THE non-hotrod Mid-Size Premium Sedan, hands down. And, at the top-end fully-loaded level, priced 10+% less than any of the others... That's a tuff playground, but for Cadillac to be truly relevant, they MUST be at this dance... If Lexus can, Caddie can too!

Did I just say that?!