Chevrolet: Stock 2012 ZL1 Runs 11.93 Quarter Mile (Video)

[Blue Menace]

^^ Very nicely put!!

[Pro Stock John]

Hey Bob, FYI I asked Jeff I think you know who he is, he's the track manager at Milan.

[Bob Cosby]

No, don't know Jeff, but I appreciate your looking into it. All a bit shady, but there is no doubt in my mind that the car could/should/has/will run in the 11's bone stock. The 1.69 on stock rubber is...well...difficult to swallow, but stranger things have happened. As stated before, I am/was expecting more than 116-117 mph trap speeds though...that is a bit disappointing.

Would it be possible to find out what day they were there?

Thank bud.
Bob

[Pro Stock John]

Jeff was the tech director for NMCA for many years, he still helps out. He's a straight shooter.

[Bob Cosby]

I don't doubt it.

[ffrcobra_65]

It is what it is and we will learn more as private owners post times on showroom stock ZL1s to validate or invalidate GM's claim. So far, not one, including two very well known and experienced speed shops, have been able to run sub 12sec 1/4 mile on 100% stock ZL1. Perhaps GM need to include free 1/4 driving lessons with the purchase of the car.

[GoldenBear]

Originally Posted by SVT Murrocket

Not true at all. Most are here because GM's top brass started thumping his chest saying how much faster the ZL1 was than the GT 500.

Please cite the official reference where "GM's top brass" stated that the ZL1 was faster than the 2013 GT500 in the quarter mile.

[Blownhotrodder]

Thats not what he said.

[tooslow]

Not "top brass" at GM, but Al O. has been clearly quoted as saying, "We predict that the ZL1 will be quicker to 60 than the GT500." and inferring that, because no Nurburgring time has been forthcoming from the opposing camp, that the ZL1 will be faster than the GT500 around that venue by replying to the point-blank question of whether or not he thought the ZL1 would be quicker around the 'Ring, "No question."

[LOWDOWN]

Originally Posted by ffrcobra_65

So far, not one, including two very well known and experienced speed shops, have been able to run sub 12sec 1/4 mile on 100% stock ZL1.

And therein lies the "problem"...which I raised weeks ago...

SuperDuper Speed Shop/Tuner Emporium has ZERO interest in getting the minimum-possible Showroom Stock times (or a maximized dyno pull) out of ANYTHING! PERIOD!

Why?

Because it would minimize THEIR contribution to the overall performances possible for that vehicle/combination.

Take a look at the fastest/quickest Showroom numbers for ANY brand/make...and it's ALWAYS an "individual" getting the results, NOT a "shop"...

...and MAXIMUM performance from a Showroom combo takes TIME...something the Camaro Clan are just now getting a chance to try to optimize.

We PROMISE to give the '13 GT 500 more than a couple of weeks to show us THEIR best...honest!

[LOWDOWN]

Originally Posted by tooslow

Not "top brass" at GM, but Al O. has been clearly quoted as saying, "We predict that the ZL1 will be quicker to 60 than the GT500." and inferring that, because no Nurburgring time has been forthcoming from the opposing camp, by replying to the point-blank question of whether or not he thought the ZL1 would be quicker around the 'Ring, "No question."

...and, SO FAR, Brand F hasn't proved him WRONG...have they?

[HDRDTD]

Originally Posted by Blownhotrodder

Thats not what he said.

Doesn't matter. That's what they believe.

[GoldenBear]

Originally Posted by tooslow

Not "top brass" at GM, but Al O. has been clearly quoted as saying, "We predict that the ZL1 will be quicker to 60 than the GT500."

I don't consider Al Oppenheiser, an engineer, "top brass" either. I consider a President or, at least, a Vice-President, "top brass." Therefore, I don't consider the statement, "GM's top brass started thumping his chest saying how much faster the ZL1 was than the GT 500" to be accurate, if the individual who made the statement was referring to Al Openheiser.

[RoketRdr]

Originally Posted by Rock36

Yeah like I said before, my hat is off to anyone who can cut a 1.69 60' time on a street tire.

I don't know, I can't really prove it either way, I can either take Chevy's word for it or accuse them of lying. I do know that the two fastest stock Z06s on street tires from my corvette forum cut 1.70 and 1.77 60' times. Another guy in the top 5 fast list pulled a 1.68 60' on stock tires... so it is possible just not common.

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Bone-Stock on Stock Tires
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Rank~~ E.T.~~ Trap~ 60'~ Driver~~~~~ M.Yr. Details Thread Video
1~~~~ 10.981 128.90 1.77 Jamie Furman~ 2006 details~~ thread
2~~~~ 11.025 127.25 1.70 Ranger ~~~~~ 2006 details~~ thread video
3~~~~ 11.177 127.08 1.79 walterm32~~~ 2008 details~~ thread
4~~~~ 11.242 122.38 1.68 Dr.Ron ~~~~~ 2006 details~~ thread
5~~~~ 11.311 122.89 1.80 BLU-BY-U ~~~ 2006 details~~ thread

Ranger is an absolute master. He has taken numerous showroom stock cars to the track and completely shattered magazine times as well as the manufacturer own claims. Someone needs to get him to drive a showroom stock ZL1 and see what it comes up with.