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dreksnot · 05-09-2017, 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by jrhagen

If you have anything over stock hp, Nittos are not the way to go. Bite the bullet and go with MT ET Street R 305/45x17.

Hate to agree, but, I had the Nittos (not again). Couldn't hook worth poop. Have the MT ET S/S now and they're head and shoulder better. I also have some MT ET R's that I'm going to try, expecting them to be even better.

GTXgp · 05-15-2017, 10:34 PM

I'm in a similar situation. I have a built bottom end, 10.4CR, TF255 heads, stage2 cam, E85, 2" ARH catless, and a ported LSA blower that I am spinning about as fast as possible (2.38 upper, 9.15 lower) hitting about 16# and running 23* timing we hit 831whp/744tq. That was without ice in the res and was actually the second of two almost back-to-back pulls. The motor and fuel system are ready for more and I think I've reached the end of what this little LSA can do without running nitrous. I'm not exactly sure that upgrading to a Whipple will net much gains either. I'm probably going to look at going to a custom turbo setup when I am ready to add a comma to my dyno.

BiggFoot · 05-16-2017, 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Dwright

Well hit the 1/8 mile track this past weekend and found out real quick power is not the issue. I spin the tires the whole way Down the track. I am running nitto 305/45/18 drag radials and they didnt help. Working out the bugs on the bmr drag suspension but at this point I am not too worried about more power until I get the car to be able to hook consistently

I feel your pain with the spinning part. Just remember there is more to getting the car to hook than the tire, but since that is "where the rubber meets the road" (lol) it is certainly important.

Try a set of these set at 18 psi (hot) -
https://www.summitracing.com/int/par...3580/overview/

Keep us posted on your progress.

Moreair1 · 05-16-2017, 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by jrhagen

If you have anything over stock hp, Nittos are not the way to go. Bite the bullet and go with MT ET Street R 305/45x17.

Definitely agree with this, even with the normal mt et streets you will hook up significantly better than the nittos, then you will be back to needing more power lol

Bildo · 05-16-2017, 12:08 PM

I am doing a somewhat similar build 427 9.5:1 E85 and an F1A have a feeling the car will want way more air than the F1A can produce..... but have to get it in the car and running before I will know.

BiggFoot · 05-16-2017, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Bildo

I am doing a somewhat similar build 427 9.5:1 E85 and an F1A have a feeling the car will want way more air than the F1A can produce..... but have to get it in the car and running before I will know.

Yeah bro you need the F-1X head and 1300 hp intercooler upgrades. I may just have to open a build thread for my car. We will be putting an F-1X in it next week.

Bildo · 05-16-2017, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by BiggFoot

Yeah bro you need the F-1X head and 1300 hp intercooler upgrades. I may just have to open a build thread for my car. We will be putting an F-1X in it next week.

Already planning for the F1-X to put me over 1k, got the 1300hp intercooler. Plenty of fuel with ID1700 and squash dual 450lph on a hobbs. Will upgrade the head unit and notch the strut tower after block break in and an aftermarket trans still rocking the factory m6

hillshooter · 05-16-2017, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by BiggFoot

I feel your pain with the spinning part. Just remember there is more to getting the car to hook than the tire, but since that is "where the rubber meets the road" (lol) it is certainly important.

Try a set of these set at 18 psi (hot) -
https://www.summitracing.com/int/par...3580/overview/

Keep us posted on your progress.

I concur, I ran this tire last year and they are excellent. Far better than the nitto's I had before.

BiggFoot · 05-16-2017, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Bildo

Already planning for the F1-X to put me over 1k, got the 1300hp intercooler. Plenty of fuel with ID1700 and squash dual 450lph on a hobbs. Will upgrade the head unit and notch the strut tower after block break in and an aftermarket trans still rocking the factory m6

There you go, now that is a plan my friend. We will be calling you boss soon!!

Dwright · 05-16-2017, 07:55 PM

Have a set of pro-form corner balance scales on the way. To help set the suspension up better for weight transfer. I am being told the springs that came with the bmr drag setup for this car may be a little too much but hopefully will have the spinning handled soon. Also changed the air intake and picked up 50 rwhp. Next is a 102 mm nick Williams throttle body and ported snout to see if we can push it over 800 hp. With just the CAI change it went from 717 to 763 hp

fif_gen_powa · 05-16-2017, 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Dwright

Have a set of pro-form corner balance scales on the way. To help set the suspension up better for weight transfer. I am being told the springs that came with the bmr drag setup for this car may be a little too much but hopefully will have the spinning handled soon. Also changed the air intake and picked up 50 rwhp. Next is a 102 mm nick Williams throttle body and ported snout to see if we can push it over 800 hp. With just the CAI change it went from 717 to 763 hp

That is a crazy gain, I've seen some guys like race proven Motorsports use the big 5" intakes I'm assuming you went with something similar like in this video - https://youtu.be/QomSJn1TbEA

Dwright · 05-17-2017, 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by fif_gen_powa

That is a crazy gain, I've seen some guys like race proven Motorsports use the big 5" intakes I'm assuming you went with something similar like in this video - https://youtu.be/QomSJn1TbEA

Sure is. Can't wait to see what the 102mm tb does. Once that's on and tuned for we are porting the blower and snout. I guess we are going to try and squeeze every last once of power out of the lsa blower

Snoman · 05-17-2017, 08:08 AM

The LSA is well known to be a power limiter to 700-ish, hopefully you didn't waste too much money taking that direction.

Most of the vehicles built by our local sponsors are 750-900+ on non-LSA blowers and rock solid.

fif_gen_powa · 05-17-2017, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Snoman

The LSA is well known to be a power limiter to 700-ish, hopefully you didn't waste too much money taking that direction.

Most of the vehicles built by our local sponsors are 750-900+ on non-LSA blowers and rock solid.

While the majority does fall in the 700 range,. 800+ is possible with the right combo of parts , see video as posted above - https://youtu.be/QomSJn1TbEA

05-17-2017, 08:08 AM	#55
Snoman H-Town Camaro Club Drives: 2013 Dusk Edition 2SS/M6/Sun/NPP Join Date: May 2014 Location: Houston Posts: 2,234 View My Garage	The LSA is well known to be a power limiter to 700-ish, hopefully you didn't waste too much money taking that direction. Most of the vehicles built by our local sponsors are 750-900+ on non-LSA blowers and rock solid. __________________ H-Town Camaro Club / HTCC Facebook / 2013 Dusk Registry

05-15-2017, 10:34 PM	#44
GTXgp Drives: '14 SS/LSA Sedan Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 5	I'm in a similar situation. I have a built bottom end, 10.4CR, TF255 heads, stage2 cam, E85, 2" ARH catless, and a ported LSA blower that I am spinning about as fast as possible (2.38 upper, 9.15 lower) hitting about 16# and running 23* timing we hit 831whp/744tq. That was without ice in the res and was actually the second of two almost back-to-back pulls. The motor and fuel system are ready for more and I think I've reached the end of what this little LSA can do without running nitrous. I'm not exactly sure that upgrading to a Whipple will net much gains either. I'm probably going to look at going to a custom turbo setup when I am ready to add a comma to my dyno.

05-16-2017, 12:08 PM	#47
Bildo Drives: 2012 2SS/RS LS3 Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Omaha, Nebraska Posts: 1,677	I am doing a somewhat similar build 427 9.5:1 E85 and an F1A have a feeling the car will want way more air than the F1A can produce..... but have to get it in the car and running before I will know.

05-16-2017, 07:55 PM	#52
Dwright Drives: 2011 Camaro 2ss Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: South Carolina Posts: 52 View My Garage	Have a set of pro-form corner balance scales on the way. To help set the suspension up better for weight transfer. I am being told the springs that came with the bmr drag setup for this car may be a little too much but hopefully will have the spinning handled soon. Also changed the air intake and picked up 50 rwhp. Next is a 102 mm nick Williams throttle body and ported snout to see if we can push it over 800 hp. With just the CAI change it went from 717 to 763 hp