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Norris Camaro · 01-09-2018, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Smokin15

Defeats the purpose of the Z/28 losing weight for the track. I mean, like they even reduced the glass thickness to save weight and you want to add t-tops?

Completely disagree because a sunroof would actually decrease weight without compromising stability.

Zslash28 · 01-10-2018, 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Norris Camaro

Completely disagree because a sunroof would actually decrease weight without compromising stability.

No sir. The sun roof adds weight. IIRC there is an extra roof brace installed, but the glass and glass frame add weight. Im scratching my head as to how you dont see that.

Honestly though, a sunroof kills head room for anyone wearing a helmet. Its kinda hard to come on here and argue that the GM engineers got it wrong by not offering an option that doesnt relate to the track focus they were after.

No offence here, but I honestly think you fall in the category of Z28 buyer who missed out on getting the car you knew of as a Z28. Ive always thought that the 1LE should have been a street version Z28, one that could be optioned well, but not be that over the top track car that we got, which out priced nearly everyone that wanted the Z28 they grew up with in the 70s-90s. I grew up riding in my dads 80 Z28, so I would have been a buyer had the 1LE been badged a Z28.

TonyNDeb · 01-10-2018, 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Norris Camaro

T-tops today don't leak

They didn't leak when they were new back then either. A friend of mine cut T tops into his 4th gen and they didn't leak, but I don't know for how long. I would suggest a person take theirs to a place to get them cut in if a person wants that free and open feeling. If that's not to a person's liking, I'm sure a shop would cut a sunroof in it. Just thoughts. I like mine with a hard top.

StreetRage320 · 01-10-2018, 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Zslash28

No sir. The sun roof adds weight. IIRC there is an extra roof brace installed, but the glass and glass frame add weight. Im scratching my head as to how you dont see that.

Honestly though, a sunroof kills head room for anyone wearing a helmet. Its kinda hard to come on here and argue that the GM engineers got it wrong by not offering an option that doesnt relate to the track focus they were after.

No offence here, but I honestly think you fall in the category of Z28 buyer who missed out on getting the car you knew of as a Z28. Ive always thought that the 1LE should have been a street version Z28, one that could be optioned well, but not be that over the top track car that we got, which out priced nearly everyone that wanted the Z28 they grew up with in the 70s-90s. I grew up riding in my dads 80 Z28, so I would have been a buyer had the 1LE been badged a Z28.

I agree, only thing I will add is that the weight of the sunroof is at the worst center of gravity Point as it's at the absolute top of the car. In an average car probably not a big deal but in a high performance track car that can really affect your lateral loads.

1970judge · 01-10-2018, 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Norris Camaro

Completely disagree because a sunroof would actually decrease weight without compromising stability.

Sunroofs can add 20-40 LBS depending on the car. In the Camaro I believe they add give or take 10-15lbs.

You get decreased head room (for some drivers depending on how tall you are) with a helmet on.

Again, in a track car these are not things you want.

JTRATX · 01-10-2018, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Norris Camaro

Completely disagree because a sunroof would actually decrease weight without compromising stability.

This is literally the most untrue statement I've ever seen. It's apparent you have never wrenched on a car or built one.

When I built my E46 M3 from a street car to race car it had a factory sunroof, when taking it out and weighing it, the glass and sunroof track w/all the fasteners was 40lbs. Taking that much weight out of the top of a car is HUGE.

69L48Z27 · 01-10-2018, 07:29 PM

What new car has T Tops today? I thought they ended that back with 4th gen.

StreetRage320 · 01-10-2018, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by 69L48Z27

What new car has T Tops today? I thought they ended that back with 4th gen.

I believe there's only one and it's this one

TonyNDeb · 01-10-2018, 08:10 PM

There was one posted in Camaro Bowties, but I can't find the post of course. It was not just for driver and passenger, they were shaped to cover the back seat passengers as well.

Norris Camaro · 01-10-2018, 11:08 PM

I would love to have a sunroof in my Z/28. Nuff said.

aris · 01-10-2018, 11:23 PM

git'r done

Norris Camaro · 01-10-2018, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by aris

git'r done

I just might do it cause I'm not so anal like some of you guys. No big deal to have an extra 5-10 pounds added to my roof. Pics gonna make ya'll really jealous especially when I do it up right

MiniBig · 01-11-2018, 10:05 AM

[QUOTE=Norris Camaro;10038337]I just might do it cause I'm not so anal like some of you guys. No big deal to have an extra 5-10 pounds added to my roof. Pics gonna make ya'll really jealous especially when I do it up right

Moreno1 · 01-11-2018, 10:36 AM

Just an FYI but, it's more like 60lbs if I remember right.

You'll need to replace the roof panel. You'll have to remove the front and rear glass to do this. Which means you'll probably have to replace them as well. Remove the center beam that goes from the C piler to the A piler. Paint the new panel. New headliner. You'll also lose the the reverse tomahawk design off the none sunroof cars. It will be pretty involved to say the least but it can be done if you desire.

01-10-2018, 07:29 PM	#21
69L48Z27 Drives: 2015 Z/28; 1969 Camaro SS Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: York, PA Posts: 814	What new car has T Tops today? I thought they ended that back with 4th gen.

01-10-2018, 08:10 PM	#23
TonyNDeb Drives: Candy Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Cleveland, NY Posts: 324	There was one posted in Camaro Bowties, but I can't find the post of course. It was not just for driver and passenger, they were shaped to cover the back seat passengers as well.

01-10-2018, 11:08 PM	#24
Norris Camaro Drives: Camaro Z/28 Join Date: Dec 2017 Location: Naples, Florida Posts: 63	I would love to have a sunroof in my Z/28. Nuff said.

01-10-2018, 11:23 PM	#25
aris Drives: Z/28 Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Bay Area Posts: 290	git'r done

01-11-2018, 10:05 AM	#27
MiniBig Drives: 2014 Z/28 #398 Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Homewood Posts: 219	[QUOTE=Norris Camaro;10038337]I just might do it cause I'm not so anal like some of you guys. No big deal to have an extra 5-10 pounds added to my roof. Pics gonna make ya'll really jealous especially when I do it up right

01-11-2018, 10:36 AM	#28
Moreno1 Drives: G5.R Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: SoCal Posts: 2,377	Just an FYI but, it's more like 60lbs if I remember right. You'll need to replace the roof panel. You'll have to remove the front and rear glass to do this. Which means you'll probably have to replace them as well. Remove the center beam that goes from the C piler to the A piler. Paint the new panel. New headliner. You'll also lose the the reverse tomahawk design off the none sunroof cars. It will be pretty involved to say the least but it can be done if you desire.