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*Camaro_Corvette* · 09-30-2009, 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by UCF w00t

There was an article posted here months ago about this issue. And it took this long for Toyota to issue a recall. Pathetic.

OMG! That article pissed me off

FenwickHockey65 · 09-30-2009, 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by rodimus prime

Dont forget the sludge issue to which the lost a class action lawsuit...before they would acknowledge it was their fault. I bet the people still buy toyotas off word of mouth still.

Actually toyota lost a ton of customers from that...a lady I know was so fed up with her highlander's engine sludge problems that she ditched it for a Malibu and hasn't looked back since. Now considering an Equinox.

TheClassicCarKid · 09-30-2009, 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by FenwickHockey65

Actually toyota lost a ton of customers from that...a lady I know was so fed up with her highlander's engine sludge problems that she ditched it for a Malibu and hasn't looked back since. Now considering an Equinox.

I love stories with happy endings!

*Mr. Wyndham* · 09-30-2009, 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by TheClassicCarKid

I love stories with happy endings!

!!!

JJ#48Racing · 10-05-2009, 05:53 AM

I forwarded this to my grandmother who drives a Prius. Her response: "Well at least I'll die getting 45.5mpg."

*Mr. Wyndham* · 10-05-2009, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by JJ#48Racing

I forwarded this to my grandmother who drives a Prius. Her response: "Well at least I'll die getting 45.5mpg."

Not if she's accelerating -- it'll be more like 18-21...

Tell her that.

*DGthe3* · 10-05-2009, 03:49 PM

What I still can't figure out is how its possible to have a car accelerate because of the floormat. If the mat gets wedged under it that should reduce acceleration shouldn't it, since the pedal can't go down as far? And if its lying on top it shouldn't do much unless they're made of lead.

I'm guessing that they are blaming the floor mats so that they can fix an underlying computer bug.

FenwickHockey65 · 10-05-2009, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by DGthe3

What I still can't figure out is how its possible to have a car accelerate because of the floormat. If the mat gets wedged under it that should reduce acceleration shouldn't it, since the pedal can't go down as far? And if its lying on top it shouldn't do much unless they're made of lead.

I'm guessing that they are blaming the floor mats so that they can fix an underlying computer bug.

Toyota sucks at designing cars, that's why.

Out of an ES350.

*DGthe3* · 10-06-2009, 01:17 AM

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Originally Posted by FenwickHockey65

Toyota sucks at designing cars, that's why.

Out of an ES350.

But how hard can a mis-positioned floor mat push on the gas pedal? It doesn't make any sense. Rubber mats are flexible, they'll bend before then can depress a pedal a couple inches. Thats what I don't get.

THUMPER20X · 10-06-2009, 02:17 PM

LOL its a big recall but its only a floor mat. Every manufacturer has had recalls. Gm had one where the orange seat belt buttons would crumble to pieces. I can almost bet the biggest thing is when people stack the mats. It says right on the floor mats not to use the carpet and all weather ones together.

Zhawk · 10-07-2009, 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by DGthe3

But how hard can a mis-positioned floor mat push on the gas pedal? It doesn't make any sense. Rubber mats are flexible, they'll bend before then can depress a pedal a couple inches. Thats what I don't get.

I have to agree. I am not sure that I buy the floormat as the reason. Especially since this is supposed to be uncontrollable massive acceleration (or whatever acceleration these Toyotas can do). Think about it, you pull your foot off the gas pedal and just how much pressure can that floormat be applying? Something here doesn't smell right.

FenwickHockey65 · 10-08-2009, 12:00 AM

Toyota's Answer to Deadly Floormats: Zip Ties!

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In a move almost too strange to be fiction, Toyota is apparently advising its Toyota and Lexus brand dealers to zip tie loose floor mats to the seats in the 3.8 million vehicles affected by the recent safety recall. Of course, it's phrased much more eloquently than that.

"We have reviewed with the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration what we’re calling a semipermanent floor mat installation process, and we’re providing these instructions to our dealers," Toyota spokesman Brian Lyons told Automotive News.

The "plastic wire ties" obviate the need to turn out a whole new fastening system for the mats and vehicles, allowing Toyota and Lexus dealers to continue selling new and used inventory.

Really toyota?

*Mr. Wyndham* · 10-08-2009, 12:03 AM

umm....Yeah. 3.8 Million cars to advertise your...zip-ties.

short of replacing the entire section of carpeting, redesigning and replacing the pedal or floormats......I suppose there wasn't much else to be done. But really??

SoFlaZ · 10-08-2009, 12:07 AM

They should have this for cavaliers. My mat goes under the clutch and gets it stuck while its disengaged occasionally. Though its not as big of a problem because it doesn't floor the gas LOL

10-05-2009, 03:49 PM	#49
DGthe3 Moderator.ca Drives: 05 Grand Am GT Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Niagara, Canada Posts: 25,366	What I still can't figure out is how its possible to have a car accelerate because of the floormat. If the mat gets wedged under it that should reduce acceleration shouldn't it, since the pedal can't go down as far? And if its lying on top it shouldn't do much unless they're made of lead. I'm guessing that they are blaming the floor mats so that they can fix an underlying computer bug. __________________ Note, if I've gotten any facts wrong in the above, just ignore any points I made with them __________________ Originally Posted by FbodFather My sister's dentist's brother's cousin's housekeeper's dog-breeder's nephew sells coffee filters to the company that provides coffee to General Motors...... ........and HE WOULD KNOW!!!! __________________ Camaro Fest sub-forum

10-06-2009, 02:17 PM	#52
THUMPER20X GM fix my PAINT U suck! Drives: 2010 Black 1SS/RS 6Spd Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Great Red North Posts: 1,856	LOL its a big recall but its only a floor mat. Every manufacturer has had recalls. Gm had one where the orange seat belt buttons would crumble to pieces. I can almost bet the biggest thing is when people stack the mats. It says right on the floor mats not to use the carpet and all weather ones together. __________________

10-08-2009, 12:03 AM	#55
Mr. Wyndham I used to be Dragoneye... Drives: 2018 ZL1 1LE Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 31,873 View My Garage	umm....Yeah. 3.8 Million cars to advertise your...zip-ties. short of replacing the entire section of carpeting, redesigning and replacing the pedal or floormats......I suppose there wasn't much else to be done. But really?? __________________ *"Keep the faith."* - Fbodfather

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10-05-2009, 05:53 AM	#47
JJ#48Racing Drives: 1998 Camaro SS Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Lancaster, CA Posts: 1,115	I forwarded this to my grandmother who drives a Prius. Her response: "Well at least I'll die getting 45.5mpg."

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SoFlaZ Drives: 2013 SS LS3 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: WPB FL Posts: 947 View My Garage	They should have this for cavaliers. My mat goes under the clutch and gets it stuck while its disengaged occasionally. Though its not as big of a problem because it doesn't floor the gas LOL