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lazerlemonta · 03-08-2018, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Clarkstar

It seems you assume a lot of things about me and my expectations. If you read my original post I was simply sharing information...I didn't ask for answers or opinions. If your not interested in the results, f#ck off and move on. Also, I will wager any amount of money you can afford to loose on a race with lazerlemons. Maybe overlooked it, but there's a plate on the intake and NO...I'm not sharing that dyno sheet... move on troll...

LOL!!! I seen the plate Clark. He is speaking of terms all motor im sure. Sorry my 1LE went into a couple of trees last june and was totaled we were making great headway on that car. Glad you are happy with it and enjoy. I still want to see the other graph please.

xc_SS/RS · 03-08-2018, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Clarkstar

It seems you assume a lot of things about me and my expectations. If you read my original post I was simply sharing information...I didn't ask for answers or opinions. If your not interested in the results, f#ck off and move on. Also, I will wager any amount of money you can afford to loose on a race with lazerlemons. Maybe overlooked it, but there's a plate on the intake and NO...I'm not sharing that dyno sheet... move on troll...

dude this thread could end up having some great info about cam timing so chill, he was probably thinking all motor anyway.

if you got the car dyno'd at the same place each time, can they layer the graphs to show the gains? i'd be interested to see bolt-ons to cam install if possible.

HioSSilver · 03-08-2018, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Clarkstar

It seems you assume a lot of things about me and my expectations. If you read my original post I was simply sharing information...I didn't ask for answers or opinions. If your not interested in the results, f#ck off and move on. Also, I will wager any amount of money you can afford to loose on a race with lazerlemons. Maybe overlooked it, but there's a plate on the intake and NO...I'm not sharing that dyno sheet... move on troll...

I seen it.....and all you just did was prove me right by even contemplating wanting/having to spray on a bolt on car with a h/c car.

HioSSilver · 03-08-2018, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by xc_SS/RS

dude this thread could end up having some great info about cam timing so chill, he was probably thinking all motor anyway.

if you got the car dyno'd at the same place each time, can they layer the graphs to show the gains? i'd be interested to see bolt-ons to cam install if possible.

It could have some really great info. But gotta get past that 7k threshold and utilize the parts or the data is bunk.

Overlays would be great. Another dyno spinning it to 7500 would be even better. So many ls guys stop the dyno short and/or fail to look at power over the curve. Lots of acceleration to be had there even if it don't show up as more power.

Clarkstar · 03-08-2018, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by HioSSilver

It could have some really great info. But gotta get past that 7k threshold and utilize the parts or the data is bunk.

Overlays would be great. Another dyno spinning it to 7500 would be even better. So many ls guys stop the dyno short and/or fail to look at power over the curve. Lots of acceleration to be had there even if it don't show up as more power.

I hope you don't think I'm going to take advise from someone who joined last month and has 30 posts...

HioSSilver · 03-08-2018, 10:53 AM

Maybe you should step over to ls1tech where some real info is and look at my 4k posts.

Ls engines are not new to me. Lazer and i have been playing with them since 1999.

xc_SS/RS · 03-08-2018, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Clarkstar

I hope you don't think I'm going to take advise from someone who joined last month and has 30 posts...

ok fine, ruin the potential for this thread

Bo White · 03-08-2018, 11:09 AM

I only posted to explain why torque is lower than usual.
Doesn't matter to me who has the biggest key board. Short runners usually sends RPM up and torque peak down. Long runners usually sends torque peak up and RPM down. There's a difference between helpful posts vs posted asking why you didn't build your car like I wanted.
It's your car, your money and your build.

Clarkstar · 03-08-2018, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Bo White

I only posted to explain why torque is lower than usual.
Doesn't matter to me who has the biggest key board. Short runners usually sends RPM up and torque peak down. Long runners usually sends torque peak up and RPM down. There's a difference between helpful posts vs posted asking why you didn't build your car like I wanted.
It's your car, your money and your build.

Thanks Bo...

Bo White · 03-08-2018, 11:14 AM

Being a few degrees advanced or retarded will only move the power curve up or down a few 100 RPM usually. You would have to be a tooth off to have that amount of difference and with that size of cam it would hit.
An overlay of before and after would show so much more. Maybe the next time your at the dyno have the operator print one out. With that amount of HP gain it would reveal a ton.

HioSSilver · 03-08-2018, 11:15 AM

Hell he has a decent build goin. Tq is a bit low but that's gonna happen with the short runners like Bo said. I've seen a whole pile of cams out there reduce tq to....especially on the ls3.

To offset that you turn it harder to stay in the lower gear longer.....put more gear in it even.

It's not even that op's combo is bad.......more of unfinished dyno day.

Clarkstar · 03-08-2018, 11:39 AM

Feel free to research the tuner... late model throttle LMT, in Waukesha wi. As stated earlier, they did not rev it any higher because of concerns of piston to valve clearance if the valves float.

HioSSilver · 03-08-2018, 12:04 PM

Then you need a good spring on it and let her rip.

Clarkstar · 03-08-2018, 12:06 PM

Pac .660 on it...

03-08-2018, 11:09 AM	#36
Bo White Drives: 2015 Summit White 2SS 1LE Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Vance Alabama Posts: 8,096	I only posted to explain why torque is lower than usual. Doesn't matter to me who has the biggest key board. Short runners usually sends RPM up and torque peak down. Long runners usually sends torque peak up and RPM down. There's a difference between helpful posts vs posted asking why you didn't build your car like I wanted. It's your car, your money and your build. __________________ Retired wanna be cylinder head porter 2015 2SS 1LE Clutch reservoir, Vararam DRX, ported TB, TSP 2" headers, MGW shifter, stage 4 cam and Wilkes 11° 65cc heads Totalled: 2010 1SS Wilkes Performance/Eagle 416 shortblock, TSP custom valvetrain, PRC 260 heads, Edelbrock Pro Flo 102, th400 swap, 8" PTC 5500 stall= 535/435 at the wheels tuned Gen 3 Performance and Dyno 10.97 @ 124 full weight in 3100 DA CamaroFest X

03-08-2018, 11:14 AM	#38
Bo White Drives: 2015 Summit White 2SS 1LE Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Vance Alabama Posts: 8,096	Being a few degrees advanced or retarded will only move the power curve up or down a few 100 RPM usually. You would have to be a tooth off to have that amount of difference and with that size of cam it would hit. An overlay of before and after would show so much more. Maybe the next time your at the dyno have the operator print one out. With that amount of HP gain it would reveal a ton. __________________ Retired wanna be cylinder head porter 2015 2SS 1LE Clutch reservoir, Vararam DRX, ported TB, TSP 2" headers, MGW shifter, stage 4 cam and Wilkes 11° 65cc heads Totalled: 2010 1SS Wilkes Performance/Eagle 416 shortblock, TSP custom valvetrain, PRC 260 heads, Edelbrock Pro Flo 102, th400 swap, 8" PTC 5500 stall= 535/435 at the wheels tuned Gen 3 Performance and Dyno 10.97 @ 124 full weight in 3100 DA CamaroFest X

03-08-2018, 11:39 AM	#40
Clarkstar Drives: 2013 1SS 1LE Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Ixonia wi Posts: 1,456	Feel free to research the tuner... late model throttle LMT, in Waukesha wi. As stated earlier, they did not rev it any higher because of concerns of piston to valve clearance if the valves float. __________________ 2013 1le- Katech 416 short block, TSP custom grind cam, LOD intake, cnc heads by F.ED., Nick William's 102mm T.B., CORN fed, Pedders coilovers. Performance street alingnment by Justin at Lake Country Alignment and dyno tune by Late Model Throttle. 603 h.p. 495 ft lbs tq.

03-08-2018, 12:06 PM	#42
Clarkstar Drives: 2013 1SS 1LE Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Ixonia wi Posts: 1,456	Pac .660 on it... __________________ 2013 1le- Katech 416 short block, TSP custom grind cam, LOD intake, cnc heads by F.ED., Nick William's 102mm T.B., CORN fed, Pedders coilovers. Performance street alingnment by Justin at Lake Country Alignment and dyno tune by Late Model Throttle. 603 h.p. 495 ft lbs tq.

03-08-2018, 10:53 AM	#34
HioSSilver Drives: 99 camaro ss with a bolt on ls6 Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Winchester VA Posts: 44	Maybe you should step over to ls1tech where some real info is and look at my 4k posts. Ls engines are not new to me. Lazer and i have been playing with them since 1999.

03-08-2018, 11:15 AM	#39
HioSSilver Drives: 99 camaro ss with a bolt on ls6 Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Winchester VA Posts: 44	Hell he has a decent build goin. Tq is a bit low but that's gonna happen with the short runners like Bo said. I've seen a whole pile of cams out there reduce tq to....especially on the ls3. To offset that you turn it harder to stay in the lower gear longer.....put more gear in it even. It's not even that op's combo is bad.......more of unfinished dyno day.

03-08-2018, 12:04 PM	#41
HioSSilver Drives: 99 camaro ss with a bolt on ls6 Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Winchester VA Posts: 44	Then you need a good spring on it and let her rip.