Camaro VS Mustang Mega Thread

[Vega]

But yeah, on topic id say the GT Mustang will always be priced a few grand under the SS Camaro, its always been like that and i think it will remain that way, its just Ford's marketing strategy...now i do believe we will see a Boss that will take the cake around $37k or $38k, i think it will stay on the cheaper end of the spectrum between GT and GT500 but it'll be something to watch out for

Also i'd be contempt with Dodge just throwing the 392 in the SRT8 and dropping the 6.1L down to the R/T model, i mean yeah it'd be a heavy brute but the 6.1 keeps the R/T model competitive with the SS and GT and a 515hp N/A motor is more than enough to get the Dodge up there with the GT500 and Z/28...plus you gotta remember, Dodge was never known for light sporty cars, haha, the original Dodge Charger's modo was "power fixes everything" LOL, 4100lbs? hell, just toss a hundred more horses in there, it'll take care of it, LOL, its the Mopar way, and personally...i like it

[a_Username]

Originally Posted by Vega

But yeah, on topic id say the GT Mustang will always be priced a few grand under the SS Camaro, its always been like that and i think it will remain that way, its just Ford's marketing strategy...now i do believe we will see a Boss that will take the cake around $37k or $38k, i think it will stay on the cheaper end of the spectrum between GT and GT500 but it'll be something to watch out for

Also i'd be contempt with Dodge just throwing the 392 in the SRT8 and dropping the 6.1L down to the R/T model, i mean yeah it'd be a heavy brute but the 6.1 keeps the R/T model competitive with the SS and GT and a 515hp N/A motor is more than enough to get the Dodge up there with the GT500 and Z/28...plus you gotta remember, Dodge was never known for light sporty cars, haha, the original Dodge Charger's modo was "power fixes everything" LOL, 4100lbs? hell, just toss a hundred more horses in there, it'll take care of it, LOL, its the Mopar way, and personally...i like it

That's true muscle car heritage!

[1320junkie]

I remember back in the day Mopars..just used to overwhelm their cars with hp and tq

[Vega]

Mhm ^_^

Not to say I wouldnt be very pleased if they did drop a few pounds off their Challenger, i dont think they ever should have considered making a Challenger model based off their large 4-door platform, but im sure they could find a few places to shed some pounds...the 396 would be a little lacking in HP behind the Z/28 and GT500 but who knows, they could offer a special rear end and performance parts that might keep it competitive

PS: The fact that it'd be the only high-trim N/A car alone would make me respect the car a lot more, just my oppinion though, i know lots of people preffer the supercharging aspect

[1320junkie]

Originally Posted by Vega

Mhm ^_^

Not to say I wouldnt be very pleased if they did drop a few pounds off their Challenger, i dont think they ever should have considered making a Challenger model based off their large 4-door platform, but im sure they could find a few places to shed some pounds...the 396 would be a little lacking in HP behind the Z/28 and GT500 but who knows, they could offer a special rear end and performance parts that might keep it competitive

PS: The fact that it'd be the only high-trim N/A car alone would make me respect the car a lot more, just my oppinion though, i know lots of people preffer the supercharging aspect

Im all about the N/A...Mopar should make another Hemi Cuda

[Zeus]

Originally Posted by 1320junkie

Im all about the N/A...Mopar should make another Hemi Cuda

Reserve the 6.4l for the Cuda.... and drop some weight.

[Vega]

Originally Posted by 1320junkie

Im all about the N/A...Mopar should make another Hemi Cuda

I think there are millions of people backing you on that haha, me being one of them, the 71' Hemi Cuda is still definatly my favorite car ever, there's been quite an outcry for Chrysler to put plans into motion for a Hemi Cuda, its just got a few obstacles in front of it like how Plymouth isnt around anymore and how they wouldnt want to make just a re-badged Challenger (i say use a different, smaller, lighter platform than the Challenger, thats how it was in the 70s and thats how it should be now)

[1bad65]

Originally Posted by rodimus prime

everyone knows the 4.6 is a turd. That might be his point. They kept a turd in there for so long due to lack of competition.

Originally Posted by Dragoneye

But I can't overlook the fact that they did nothing to improve the cars performance over a 2002 Camaro/Firebird until 2010. Granted, they were no longer in production...but Mustang guys were left with some pretty rotten apples if Ford needed competition to make a decent performance car (excluding GT500).

Guys, get your facts straight. Ford used the 4.6 2v engine for the Mustang until the 2005 model year. Then they put the 4.6 3V engines in them. The hp difference was 40hp (260 to 300). So Ford added 40 more hp to the Mustang when there was NO Camaro/Firebird or Challengers to compete with.

[ssump29]

Originally Posted by 1bad65

Guys, get your facts straight. Ford used the 4.6 2v engine for the Mustang until the 2005 model year. Then they put the 4.6 3V engines in them. The hp difference was 40hp (260 to 300). So Ford added 40 more hp to the Mustang when there was NO Camaro/Firebird or Challengers to compete with.

How about you get your facts straight, the GTO was alreasy announced to return and was rated at 350hp for 2004. New mustang coming out in 2005 need to do something. However, neither ford nor GM didn't know that the GTO would sale like it did. But at the same time there was only going to be a limited number of GTOs made 18,000 a year from 2004-2006. So yeah there goes your reason for uping the hp without no comp.

[1bad65]

Originally Posted by ssump29

How about you get your facts straight, the GTO was alreasy announced to return and was rated at 350hp for 2004. New mustang coming out in 2005 need to do something. However, neither ford nor GM didn't know that the GTO would sale like it did. But at the same time there was only going to be a limited number of GTOs made 18,000 a year from 2004-2006. So yeah there goes your reason for uping the hp without no comp.

How about you learn how to read, and then comprehend it.

He said this, and I replied to it: "But I can't overlook the fact that they did nothing to improve the cars performance over a 2002 Camaro/Firebird until 2010."

Can you show me where the word "GTO" appeared in his post?

And why would Ford worry about the GTO anyway? GM already said it was a limited run car that would only run for 3 model years. And the GTO was also priced alot higher than a Mustang GT anyway.

[1bad65]

And notice I didn't say the Mustang had NO competition, I said it had "no Camaro/Firebird or Challengers to compete with."

So my post is 100% true and factual.

[ssump29]

Originally Posted by 1bad65

And notice I didn't say the Mustang had NO competition, I said it had "no Camaro/Firebird or Challengers to compete with."

So my post is 100% true and factual.

I just wanted point out that they had a reason to up their game, since many think they didn't have too. Yes they did. Doesn't matter if it was a limited run, you still want to stay close with the comp and damn I can't even recall all the Mustangs trying to race me when my 2005 GTO was brand new. Not to mention all the GT's I spanked. I really believe even though the GTO was a limited run, Ford answered the call to the 400 hp monster with the GT500 coming out with exactly 100 hp more then the GTO and LS2 C6. Kinda crazy that the LS2 was exactly 100hp more then the highest rateed stang and then the next new stang 5.4 was exactly 100 hp more then the LS2. I'm just saying.

[1bad65]

Originally Posted by ssump29

I just wanted point out that they had a reason to up their game, since many think they didn't have too. Yes they did. Doesn't matter if it was a limited run, you still want to stay close with the comp and damn I can't even recall all the Mustangs trying to race me when my 2005 GTO was brand new. Not to mention all the GT's I spanked. I really believe even though the GTO was a limited run, Ford answered the call to the 400 hp monster with the GT500 coming out with exactly 100 hp more then the GTO and LS2 C6. Kinda crazy that the LS2 was exactly 100hp more then the highest rateed stang and then the next new stang 5.4 was exactly 100 hp more then the LS2. I'm just saying.

It's all good. Sorry if I jumped on ya a bit.

I've actually never ran a GTO before, but I know even stock they are very quick. Didn't they have two different motors available in them?

[ssump29]

Originally Posted by 1bad65

It's all good. Sorry if I jumped on ya a bit.

I've actually never ran a GTO before, but I know even stock they are very quick. Didn't they have two different motors available in them?

Well the 2004 models had the LS1 @ 350hp/365TQ
The 2005 models had the LS2 @ 400hp/400TQ.

Yeah stock they are fast, and be careful if you see one now because chances are its modded. Most all by now have done mods. A lot of people are running turbos in these cars and making 600hp and monster tq.

Mine is making 573TQ and 610hp. But its only a drag car now.