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*Camaro_Corvette* · 10-07-2009, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by SSOOCH

Very debateable. All I can say is "you can never change you oil too often"!

superstockcam · 10-07-2009, 10:53 PM

Dealer also says you should pay over MSRP for a Camaro.....I caught a catastrophe happening in a 396 I built due to faulty cam bearings, caught it early at the 500 mile non detergent oil change and saved a $3500 build!
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Bellringer · 10-08-2009, 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Tigertrj

Dealer told me wait til the oil change light comes on

There must be something in the air today. Today I was told the same thing. Well after a while the salesman told me the first oil change is free! Great I said guess I will see you in a week or two....He looked at me kinda funny . Like your serious aren't you? Darn straight I am.

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*Mr. Wyndham* · 10-08-2009, 12:30 AM

He would tell you that.

It's how they're trained.

Professional racers, engine-builders, etc recommend you do the first oil change early.
This is to clean out off the fine metal particles collected while the rings seat themselves. After that, you can change your oil according to the Oil Life Monitor, like the dealer said -- and you'll be fine.

Sooch is right -- it won't hurt ANYTHING to change it early. (except maybe your wallet)

derklug · 10-08-2009, 01:28 AM

You can change your oil every day, and the only thing that would be damaged is the threads on the drain plug. You can let fine particles float around your engine untill the dealer says it is time to change, I prefer not to.

CTS · 10-08-2009, 02:43 PM

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Cheap insurance & piece of mind! I'm VERY glad I did it around 1200 miles and took out the first batch of metal shavings...

Did Chevrolet forget to put an oil filter on your engine? If there were metal shaving in the oil the filter would remove them.

You can change your oil ever 500 miles but that is not going to make it run any better or last any longer than if you changed it every 5,000 miles.

There is a very good chance the oil you are removing is better even with 5,000 miles on it than the oil you are replacing it with.

lcmc · 10-08-2009, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by CTS

Did Chevrolet forget to put an oil filter on your engine? If there were metal shaving in the oil the filter would remove them.

You can change your oil ever 500 miles but that is not going to make it run any better or last any longer than if you changed it every 5,000 miles.

There is a very good chance the oil you are removing is better even with 5,000 miles on it than the oil you are replacing it with.

I agree. The filter is there for a reason. Let it do it's job. My dealer and mechanic both said you are wasting money changing it so soon.

PAUL SS · 10-08-2009, 11:11 PM

This isn't 1965, oil is better, oil filters are better. Any shavings should end up in the oil filter. I don't get all this talk of shavings on the dipstick and in the oil drained out of the crankcase. Cut your used filter open if you want to see what's going on. I am still undecided on when I will do my first oil change.

ACDC1710 · 10-09-2009, 09:16 AM

Oil is better and filters are better but you still generate a lot of metal during break in. No filter is 100% efficent and particles way smaller than the size of a hair can begin doing damage to your engine. Less than a spoon full of sand can ruin a 55 gallon drum of oil. It doesn't hurt anything to change your oil early for prevention besides the 50 bucks or so for the oil and filter. But it is still all a judgement call on the person. Just make sure you whatever you need to do to not void GM's Warranty. I know for certain I'm gonna pay an extra $10 dollars or so to have my oil sent to an oil lab at every oil change to have for record purpose and for early prevention.

ACDC1710 · 10-09-2009, 09:18 AM

Another thing to think about is that oil sold on the shelves is not even considered clean by most engine and machine manufacturers. They want you to kidney loop filter with cleanout filter before you even install in an engine or transmission.

nassau97 · 10-09-2009, 09:23 AM

You just paid close to 40000 dollars for a new car. Change the oil. Your dealer is an idiot. Clean oil is the cheapest thing you can buy. Yes, oil is better now and so are filters but why take the chance over the cost of an early oil change.

ClutchKargo · 10-09-2009, 06:17 PM

I just took mine in today with 530 miles on it. The service advisor was in total agreement with me to change it early. He said if it was his car he'd do the same thing.

He also went on to say that there was some kind of issue on one of the other models in the chevy line up and one of the things they were told to do was encourage people to do an early oil change. I can't remember what model it was but I think it was one of the mid level SUV's.

Bottom line he was in total agreement that it was smart and good insurance to change it early.

baby02 · 10-09-2009, 06:36 PM

MY SERVICE REP SAID THE OIL IS CHANGED 3 TIMES BY THE TIME WE RECEIVE THE CAR, THERFORE, THERE IS NO NEED TO CHANGE EARLY. SORRY FOR THE LARGE TYPE.

*CamaroSpike23* · 10-09-2009, 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CTS

Did Chevrolet forget to put an oil filter on your engine? If there were metal shaving in the oil the filter would remove them.

You can change your oil ever 500 miles but that is not going to make it run any better or last any longer than if you changed it every 5,000 miles.

There is a very good chance the oil you are removing is better even with 5,000 miles on it than the oil you are replacing it with.

there are a few threads out here with pictures from people who have changed their oil at ~500 miles or even less with metal shavings in the oil.... not in the filter. oil filters arent 100% perfect. neither is oil. which is why it needs to be changed.

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Originally Posted by lcmc

I agree. The filter is there for a reason. Let it do it's job. My dealer and mechanic both said you are wasting money changing it so soon.

your dealer probably told you that putting 91 octane in the SS is a waste of money as well.

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Originally Posted by Paul SS

This isn't 1965, oil is better, oil filters are better. Any shavings should end up in the oil filter. I don't get all this talk of shavings on the dipstick and in the oil drained out of the crankcase. Cut your used filter open if you want to see what's going on. I am still undecided on when I will do my first oil change.

do it around 1500 miles. then reset the OLMS and do it whenever the computer tells you to.

10-07-2009, 10:53 PM	#16
superstockcam Member Drives: 2010 ABM 2SS/RS LS3 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Where you vacation...Tahoe Posts: 928	Dealer also says you should pay over MSRP for a Camaro.....I caught a catastrophe happening in a 396 I built due to faulty cam bearings, caught it early at the 500 mile non detergent oil change and saved a $3500 build! ________ perfect tits Cam Last edited by superstockcam; 04-19-2011 at 04:14 AM.

10-08-2009, 12:30 AM	#18
Mr. Wyndham I used to be Dragoneye... Drives: 2018 ZL1 1LE Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 31,873 View My Garage	He would tell you that. It's how they're trained. Professional racers, engine-builders, etc recommend you do the first oil change early. This is to clean out off the fine metal particles collected while the rings seat themselves. After that, you can change your oil according to the Oil Life Monitor, like the dealer said -- and you'll be fine. Sooch is right -- it won't hurt ANYTHING to change it early. (except maybe your wallet) __________________ *"Keep the faith."* - Fbodfather

10-08-2009, 11:11 PM	#22
PAUL SS The Mark of Excellence Drives: 2010 ABM 1SS RS LS3 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Smallest State in the Union Posts: 8,688 View My Garage	This isn't 1965, oil is better, oil filters are better. Any shavings should end up in the oil filter. I don't get all this talk of shavings on the dipstick and in the oil drained out of the crankcase. Cut your used filter open if you want to see what's going on. I am still undecided on when I will do my first oil change. __________________ BMR, CAI, DynoMax, Elite Eng., Hurst, Jannetty, Clear Image Headers & Hi Flow cats, Jet Hot, LSR, TSW, VMax, Vredestein

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10-08-2009, 01:28 AM	#19
derklug Drives: 12 Boss 302 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Grand Rapids, Mi Posts: 1,369	You can change your oil every day, and the only thing that would be damaged is the threads on the drain plug. You can let fine particles float around your engine untill the dealer says it is time to change, I prefer not to.

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ACDC1710 Drives: 1968 Camaro RS, 2002 Trans AM Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: SC Posts: 79	Oil is better and filters are better but you still generate a lot of metal during break in. No filter is 100% efficent and particles way smaller than the size of a hair can begin doing damage to your engine. Less than a spoon full of sand can ruin a 55 gallon drum of oil. It doesn't hurt anything to change your oil early for prevention besides the 50 bucks or so for the oil and filter. But it is still all a judgement call on the person. Just make sure you whatever you need to do to not void GM's Warranty. I know for certain I'm gonna pay an extra $10 dollars or so to have my oil sent to an oil lab at every oil change to have for record purpose and for early prevention.

10-09-2009, 09:18 AM	#24
ACDC1710 Drives: 1968 Camaro RS, 2002 Trans AM Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: SC Posts: 79	Another thing to think about is that oil sold on the shelves is not even considered clean by most engine and machine manufacturers. They want you to kidney loop filter with cleanout filter before you even install in an engine or transmission.

10-09-2009, 09:23 AM	#25
nassau97 Drives: 2010 2SS/RS, 97 Vette 91 Vette Join Date: May 2009 Location: WV Posts: 66	You just paid close to 40000 dollars for a new car. Change the oil. Your dealer is an idiot. Clean oil is the cheapest thing you can buy. Yes, oil is better now and so are filters but why take the chance over the cost of an early oil change.

10-09-2009, 06:17 PM	#26
ClutchKargo Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS L99 RJT Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Knoxville Posts: 211	I just took mine in today with 530 miles on it. The service advisor was in total agreement with me to change it early. He said if it was his car he'd do the same thing. He also went on to say that there was some kind of issue on one of the other models in the chevy line up and one of the things they were told to do was encourage people to do an early oil change. I can't remember what model it was but I think it was one of the mid level SUV's. Bottom line he was in total agreement that it was smart and good insurance to change it early.

10-09-2009, 06:36 PM	#27
baby02 EYE CANDY Drives: 1SS RS ABM Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Port St Lucie, fl Posts: 673 View My Garage	MY SERVICE REP SAID THE OIL IS CHANGED 3 TIMES BY THE TIME WE RECEIVE THE CAR, THERFORE, THERE IS NO NEED TO CHANGE EARLY. SORRY FOR THE LARGE TYPE.