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Old 07-28-2008, 09:25 PM   #169
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and fast cars have two.






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90% of the manual peeps on here are stuck in the old "it aint a muscle car if it aint got a stick" style of thinking. ok... fine, look at top nhra dragsters and what they have for a transmission. kinda goes along the same lines of the "if it aint got a v-8, it aint a musclecar" mentality. its a camaro, its a muscle car... its just making more power with less.



if you wanna play around, get a manual. if you wanna go fast, get an auto.


im about to swap in my new auto for race season this fall. 700r4, 3600 stall, reverse manual valve body, and transbrake. im shooting for 11s. and yes, its my dd.
yes no maybe.

if you want a lot more respect for going fast then get a manual.

an auto is the way to go if you want fast consistent times and want to pay out the arse when you break something. an manual is cheaper to work on and in my mind earns more respect if you can muscle the car faster then avg.
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Old 07-29-2008, 01:28 AM   #170
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if you want a lot more respect for going fast then get a manual.


It's called powershifting....and being consistent at it.
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Old 07-29-2008, 08:04 AM   #171
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90% of the manual peeps on here are stuck in the old "it aint a muscle car if it aint got a stick" style of thinking.
I don't think that's the case. Maybe the most vocal ones are, but I think most are more like me -- people who just enjoy driving manual.

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if you wanna play around, get a manual. if you wanna go fast, get an auto.
They're both fast, but if you're interested in squeezing out every last fraction of a second on the drag strip then get the auto for sure.


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if you want a lot more respect for going fast then get a manual.
You can respect someone for how they go fast, but I'd give more respect to the one who produces results.

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an auto is the way to go if you want fast consistent times and want to pay out the arse when you break something. an manual is cheaper to work on and in my mind earns more respect if you can muscle the car faster then avg.
The manual is cheaper all around. Cheaper to buy, cheaper to maintain (unless you burn through lots of clutches), cheaper to repair. However, modern automatics are pretty bulletproof...

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It's called powershifting....and being consistent at it.
...and modern automatics don't break just because you hurry every time you accelerate. If you accelerate hard every time, you're going to beat the hell out of a manual but not an auto. If you consistently powershift all the time it won't last long at all, and it's probably not so good for the engine either.
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Old 07-29-2008, 09:30 AM   #172
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If the auto is as close in performance to the stick as the article mentions (even if in reality the auto ends up slightly 'slower') then it's an auto for me. The active fuel management and remote start are two big features I'd really like, and at least in my case I'm not as concerned about a .3 second or so difference in 0-60 times.

While I am looking forward to going fast and enjoying some spirited driving with a new SS, I am also looking forward to taking it on longer trips - maybe Route 66, or through some winding roads in the Black Hills.

For me this is more than a speed car... for me, this is the opportunity to sit behind the wheel of a new American icon and to unfurl its wings on the open roads of this great country.
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Old 07-29-2008, 02:00 PM   #173
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From a dig it will be very close I am sure. But on the highway or a roll the stick will pull the auto everytime (stock for stock). Its lighter, has more HP and less drivetrane loss. Once you are IN gear the MT will pull on the AT
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Old 07-29-2008, 03:45 PM   #174
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I want auto for remote start so I don't have 3 remotes. Already have 2, one for my truck and the other for the gated community.
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Old 07-29-2008, 04:13 PM   #175
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You can respect someone for how they go fast, but I'd give more respect to the one who produces results.
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I respect the ones that have fast setups but I respect the ones that muscle their way to a faster time with a stick. it's harder to do and so many factors play into it. unlike an auto where you stomp and go.
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Old 07-29-2008, 04:25 PM   #176
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I respect the ones that have fast setups but I respect the ones that muscle their way to a faster time with a stick. it's harder to do and so many factors play into it. unlike an auto where you stomp and go.
It would get frustrating though if you could never beat an automatic V8 SS with the manual Automatic SS on a race track no matter how good you actually shift..
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Old 07-29-2008, 04:26 PM   #177
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It would get frustrating though if you could never beat an automatic V8 SS with the manual Automatic SS on a race track no matter how good you actually shift..
then reality sets in and you realize you just suck at driving. . .
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then reality sets in and you realize you just suck at driving. . .
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Old 07-29-2008, 04:31 PM   #179
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that you wasn't in reference to just you but everyone. . .if that's the case. . .it's whomever is driving the car.
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I'm not getting a stick for any reason other than having fun driving the car. If I can't beat an automatic from a dig, I don't care. The car has enough power for me to enjoy. I might go higher later on, but since I'm not a hardcore racer, a few tenths is nothing to me.
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AT vs MT

What I like about a manual is the advantage to brake wear. In my 87 IROC I got 80,000 miles on a set of brakes. Being able to slow down using the gears was so much better than applying the brakes all the time. Also being able to drive in the city at slower speeds was better for me. Keeping it in 3rd or 4th keep my speed right around 30-35 easier than having an auto and having to watch my speed all the time. My final case for a MT was better fuel mileage.

The only disadvantage to having a MT was no free hand to hold my soda or pet my GF, lol
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Betcha that raised your gas mileage up though, ...getting those rpm's way up there w/ your downshifts to slow you down after all that time. Sure, you'd save your brakes, but dang....that cost of gas! That's exactly where the hybrids are trying to save gas, not use more. Just my opinion, but I'd say use those brakes. Unless someone can prove me wrong. Seriously, I'm open to the idea.
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