Police With Camaro

[Robert91RS]

Originally Posted by chevydude26

not a bad idea...my family was going to move a few years back when i was in high school...in the fort worth dallas area...i really liked it too...it was just super hot ....but yeah texas is probably fantastic...probably a lot of hot girls down there too...but yeh i'm getting out of jersey as soon as i decide where to open up my future business

What kind of business are you going to open?

[Mr. Wyndham]

Tax dollars......wtf kind of excuse is that?!?

When they have to replace their cars...they have to buy new cars...so who cares which vehicle it goes to? The money's being spent one way or the other! I'd rather it be spent on a reliable, and impressive car. (and we're talking about Highway interceptors, btw; not your average patrol car)

Most importantly; Lets not turn this into a "lets hate on the police" thread, huh? A few isolated, one-side-tells-all incendents are not enough to prove any piece of such an assertion. So keep it up; and the thread gets closed IMMEDIATELY.

[theholycow]

Originally Posted by Captain Awesome

By the way, do we have any lawyers out there who can explain to my how come when you get a speeding ticket that the very basis of our legal system is thrown out?

Originally Posted by Eisenhower

Guilty? No, not if the cop doesn't show. But what if the cop does show up to court, the burden of proving you're innocent belongs to "you" the defendant.

Originally Posted by Captain Awesome

I don't know how it works where you live but in NY you cannot get a trial by jury for a speeding violation.

I believe the answer to all these questions is that the licensed driving/public road system is a voluntary system, and a privilege instead of a right. The worst penalty in the system is to throw you out of said system. IIRC, you're not even getting penalized for a crime, but rather just a system rule violation.

It also sucks big time, because it's kind of hard to live a life in this modern world in the US without driving.

[Captain Awesome]

Originally Posted by theholycow

I believe the answer to all these questions is that the licensed driving/public road system is a voluntary system, and a privilege instead of a right. The worst penalty in the system is to throw you out of said system. IIRC, you're not even getting penalized for a crime, but rather just a system rule violation.

It also sucks big time, because it's kind of hard to live a life in this modern world in the US without driving.

So, if someone were to opt out of using the public roads system or were to get their privileges to use it revoked, exactly how will they be able to get an exemption on their taxes for the money that would go to the public roads system they no longer participate in?

[chevydude26]

Originally Posted by Robert91RS

What kind of business are you going to open?

this tax business ...i'm working on getting the capital and figuring out which market is best...ny,nj, or l.a.....

[chevydude26]

Originally Posted by Dragoneye

Tax dollars......wtf kind of excuse is that?!?

When they have to replace their cars...they have to buy new cars...so who cares which vehicle it goes to? The money's being spent one way or the other! I'd rather it be spent on a reliable, and impressive car. (and we're talking about Highway interceptors, btw; not your average patrol car)

Most importantly; Lets not turn this into a "lets hate on the police" thread, huh? A few isolated, one-side-tells-all incendents are not enough to prove any piece of such an assertion. So keep it up; and the thread gets closed IMMEDIATELY.

i just posted documented footage of the type of behavior some police are capable of ....

people's first instinct is to believe the higher authority and to believe that "man that person who was harrassed must have done something wrong" a lot of times of course....but not all the time

officers are humans who are capable of making mistakes and abusing the power they are given...please don't try to deny that obvious fact that comes with the territory ...

[theholycow]

Originally Posted by Captain Awesome

So, if someone were to opt out of using the public roads system or were to get their privileges to use it revoked, exactly how will they be able to get an exemption on their taxes for the money that would go to the public roads system they no longer participate in?

They are relieved of some of the taxes by not paying fuel tax.

Anyway, unfair taxation is a whole different issue. It seems unfair that I'm paying school taxes when I don't have children. It seems unfair that I'm paying welfare taxes when not receiving any welfare. The same could be said of most other government services; each of us uses only a fraction of said services. Getting thrown out of or opting out of any of those services doesn't relieve the person of having to pay the taxes for them.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not a proponent of the current system which I think is unfair, but the question of "the accused is presumed innocent in a court of law until proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt" and trial by peers is invalid because in this case we're not talking about a crime or a court of law...we're talking about an infraction against a voluntary system to be tried in a court of that system. I don't like it, I'm just explaining the design and the excuses they use.

Though, come to think of it, I'm not sure I'd want to pay the huge amount of taxes required to support the costs of treating traffic violations like crimes.

Maybe if we're all so pissed off about unreasonable speed limits, revenue-generation speed traps, and abusive cops, we could all join something like the National Motorists Association and fight these issues.

Meh, apathy wins. I'll just bitch about individual tickets when I get them.

[Mr. Wyndham]

Chevydude26, you supported the point I was trying to make.

Originally Posted by chevydude26

i just posted documented footage of the type of behavior some police are capable of ....

...officers are humans who are capable of making mistakes and abusing the power they are given.

So what does it matter that they are police or not? My post was in response to some rather uncalled for, and foolish comments to the effect of ' "F" the police'. You might very well say ' "F" the world' given the above........

And because these people are willing to put themselves in danger to protect you and I - not to mention some of my close friends are or are becoming police officers - I won't have crude comments such as those be made.

I'm not denying anything, and I'd thank you for not putting words in my mouth to the contrary.

All I wanted to say is that this thread is about whether or not you think the police should be allowed to drive Camaros. Leave it there.

[Eisenhower]

I think it's funny to note that "theholycow" has voted yes & no in the poll! Is that an error or a system breach?

[TAG UR IT]

Ok...no more stories about this or that.

Stick to the threads topic and the thread will remain open.

Let's keep this enjoyable for all!

[Muscle Master]

Originally Posted by Beelzebubba

They don't need a Camaro.


Let them drive 2.4 ecotec 4 cylinder Malibus with the 6T40E transmission and have specially prepped Tahoes for PIT manuevers.

The 4 cylinder Malibus accelerate almost as well as a Crown Vic, handle better, they aren't prone to exploding on impact like Crown Vics, they have nearly as much interior volume if not more for transporting prisoners, and think of all the money departments will save in gas with a car that averages 25 mpg instead of 12.

Definitely keep Tahoes to keep my hometown's GM plant running

lol I found that funny, but true, and I totaly agree, like I said its bad enough theres HEMIs

[theholycow]

Originally Posted by Eisenhower

I think it's funny to note that "theholycow" has voted yes & no in the poll! Is that an error or a system breach?

I was waiting to see how long before someone noticed!

I can't imagine why the poll was made that way, but it's an option when posting a poll, you can either have check boxes (can choose more than one) or radio buttons (can only choose one).

[iPODFAN11]

NYS troopers have 4th gens and let me tell you, sharp cars, and do they move. I voted yes. Take a look at what 18 rustangs can do in 1 state:

http://www.autoblog.com/2008/07/30/b...eders-in-june/

[chevydude26]

Originally Posted by Dragoneye

Chevydude26, you supported the point I was trying to make.


So what does it matter that they are police or not? My post was in response to some rather uncalled for, and foolish comments to the effect of ' "F" the police'. You might very well say ' "F" the world' given the above........

And because these people are willing to put themselves in danger to protect you and I - not to mention some of my close friends are or are becoming police officers - I won't have crude comments such as those be made.

I'm not denying anything, and I'd thank you for not putting words in my mouth to the contrary.

All I wanted to say is that this thread is about whether or not you think the police should be allowed to drive Camaros. Leave it there.

fair enough and even though i've experienced a few issues i'm intelligent enough to realize that the majority of officers in the country do their job with the utmost integrity and i won't make blanket statements that generalize all of them...but their is a blance of power problem and potential for corruption especially when something is run by state as ultimate power corrupts

but yea i agree with what you say...no hard feelings buddy