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KW Baraka · 04-10-2020, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Valkyrie14

Picking a camshaft: TSP, JRE, Comp and Lethal

Figure out exactly all you're gonna have done to the car and then call "Cam Motion" and have them spec you a cam.

KW

Valkyrie14 · 04-10-2020, 09:16 PM

Thanks for the referral to cam, I did the request in the link. I like the package approach, like what JRE sells so I get what I need without having to piece that together on my own. However I don’t want to pick my cam based upon purchasing ease.

Greenhornet2 · 04-10-2020, 09:36 PM

Have heard so many horror stories with comp cams metals i steer clear of any comp cam stuff. JRE i think uses texas speed premium cores

Lethal Racing · 04-11-2020, 08:36 AM

If you would do a cam like the Night Fury, it would be best to put it on at least a 115. That would be better for the blower in the future. Better bet would be to get a custom spec cam for you.

Valkyrie14 · 04-11-2020, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Lethal Racing

If you would do a cam like the Night Fury, it would be best to put it on at least a 115. That would be better for the blower in the future. Better bet would be to get a custom spec cam for you.

What is the 115 referring to? I tried to PM you but the mailbox is full. I would be interested in custom cam spec discussion.

LCPLPunk · 04-11-2020, 10:41 AM

Have you thought about going AGP Twin turbo?

Valkyrie14 · 04-11-2020, 10:41 AM

I am choosing a S.C. over turbo for the low end torque advantages. I do like twin turbo setups and the efficiency of using exhaust to blow rather than a belt.

Can’t afford either at the moment, which is why I’m doing the cam instead. I don’t think I will be sorry. Besides will be upgrading the valve train in the process and get a chance to look at the head.

STALKER · 04-11-2020, 10:47 AM

I'd wait on the cam, honestly. Decide what blower you are going with first...maybe even get the blower on and see how you like the car with the stock cam. You never know, you may decide it's enough power for you and you like the car the way it is. Its nice having FI power with stock drivability. You could always add the cam down the road, and if you did, you would have a better idea what you want/need.

KW Baraka · 04-11-2020, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by STALKER

I'd wait on the cam, honestly. Decide what blower you are going with first...maybe even get the blower on and see how you like the car with the stock cam......

I would agree with this point.

Save your bucks and go SC first. The stock cam is actually VERY FI friendly and you keep your stock drivability.

If you feel you MUST get a cam, then get a FI specific cam, AND, the turbos installed at the same time.

Best of luck!

KW

2011SSCT · 04-11-2020, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Greenhornet2

Have heard so many horror stories with comp cams metals i steer clear of any comp cam stuff. JRE i think uses texas speed premium cores

Same here about Comp Cams. Yes, JRE uses Texas Speed cores.

Greenhornet2 · 04-11-2020, 09:45 PM

Valk, i too would save for your FI first. That's what i did. My stock cam made almost 600whp with my whipple. As far qs twin turbo, I've not driven in one but with how fast they spool they make a ton of power down pretty low and will out torque my whipple. But think about your end goals. Whipple you are capped at about 900whp. TT easily will get you over 1000whp. I'm going to be happy under 800whp its becoming too much for the street comfortably as is.

Valkyrie14 · 04-11-2020, 10:11 PM

I have no interest in 1000 hp. Okay I do, but I am rationale and no that it would not end well. I want to be in the 600-709 range. I really want the power from a stop.

Greenhornet2 · 04-12-2020, 07:21 AM

If that is all you want and you want that real low torque go for the PD. If you want to save money i would look into finding a used LSA. I made almost 600whp with my whipple on stock cam with 3.875 pulley. Drop to a 3.625 and i would have been around 630whp around 13psi. That was with full length headers zl1 pump jre fpcm id1050x injectors. If you go LSA have it ported before you put it on but you'll likely need the cam to get you over 600. Getting more than that you'll want to do the cam next. Ted recommended i not go much over 10psi so I've been sticking to that. I've read a lot have been ok at 13, 14 psi but the risk of pushing coolant is higher. If you stud the heads you'd been good for more boost.

Valkyrie14 · 04-12-2020, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Greenhornet2

If that is all you want and you want that real low torque go for the PD. If you want to save money i would look into finding a used LSA. I made almost 600whp with my whipple on stock cam with 3.875 pulley. Drop to a 3.625 and i would have been around 630whp around 13psi. That was with full length headers zl1 pump jre fpcm id1050x injectors. If you go LSA have it ported before you put it on but you'll likely need the cam to get you over 600. Getting more than that you'll want to do the cam next. Ted recommended i not go much over 10psi so I've been sticking to that. I've read a lot have been ok at 13, 14 psi but the risk of pushing coolant is higher. If you stud the heads you'd been good for more boost.

Just want to make sure I understand what you are saying. PD, your are referring to a PD cam. Not sure on the LSA, that acronym is used a couple of ways and I want to make sure I am understanding you.

04-10-2020, 09:16 PM	#16
Valkyrie14 Valkyrie14 Drives: Chevrolet Camaro SS Join Date: Mar 2020 Location: Eau Claire, Wisconsin Posts: 962	Thanks for the referral to cam, I did the request in the link. I like the package approach, like what JRE sells so I get what I need without having to piece that together on my own. However I don’t want to pick my cam based upon purchasing ease. __________________ 2014 SS LS3/LSA Supercharger, 10% Super Damper, 2.55 upper, AGP Dual Pump, ID 1050 injectors, Pegasus solid rear cradle bushings, LT Headers, Roto-Fab CAI, Elite E2 catch can, E85 corn fed, 160 Thermostat, Monster Twin Disk, MGW Short Throw shifter, Tick Clutch Master Cylinder, HP Tuners, JL Audio system.

04-10-2020, 09:36 PM	#17
Greenhornet2 Drives: 2011 Camaro 2SS LS3 Whipple Join Date: May 2019 Location: Connecticut Posts: 1,925	Have heard so many horror stories with comp cams metals i steer clear of any comp cam stuff. JRE i think uses texas speed premium cores __________________ Whipple 2.9 CAI ID1050x injectors ZL1 Pump JRE FPCM JMS Voltage booster JRE Rough Idle blower cam BTR .660 springs CHE trunnion kit 1 7/8 Speed Engineering Borla Atak JRE scoop 1.5" lowering springs BMR trailing arms and toe links Cradle inserts 704WHP 603WTQ 93 octane

04-11-2020, 10:41 AM	#20
LCPLPunk USA-1 Drives: 2010 Camaro SS L99 Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Near DC Posts: 1,893 View My Garage	Have you thought about going AGP Twin turbo? __________________ "A Camaro in the garage is safe, but that's not what Camaros are built for..." R2C CAI / Apex Scoop / VMAX Ported TB / Speed Engineering LTHs / X-pipe / GPI port/rod-mod intake manifold / Circle D 3200 278mm Converter / 3.91 gears / DynoSteve tuned / 1LE Shocks/Struts/Toe Links / ZL1 Rear Sway Bar / Z/28 Trailing arms / Prothane Radius Arm & Subframe Bushings / BMR UCA Bracket, Steering rack bushing / B&M Tranny Cooler / RX Catch Can / Jannetty Tranny Dipstick / 2012+ Heater Hose / 2013+ Rearview Mirror / Fuel rail flip / Drake shifter / Oil Cooler Delete

04-11-2020, 10:41 AM	#21
Valkyrie14 Valkyrie14 Drives: Chevrolet Camaro SS Join Date: Mar 2020 Location: Eau Claire, Wisconsin Posts: 962	I am choosing a S.C. over turbo for the low end torque advantages. I do like twin turbo setups and the efficiency of using exhaust to blow rather than a belt. Can’t afford either at the moment, which is why I’m doing the cam instead. I don’t think I will be sorry. Besides will be upgrading the valve train in the process and get a chance to look at the head. __________________ 2014 SS LS3/LSA Supercharger, 10% Super Damper, 2.55 upper, AGP Dual Pump, ID 1050 injectors, Pegasus solid rear cradle bushings, LT Headers, Roto-Fab CAI, Elite E2 catch can, E85 corn fed, 160 Thermostat, Monster Twin Disk, MGW Short Throw shifter, Tick Clutch Master Cylinder, HP Tuners, JL Audio system.

04-11-2020, 10:47 AM	#22
STALKER Drives: 2023 Camaro ZL1 1LE Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Middletown, DE Posts: 340	I'd wait on the cam, honestly. Decide what blower you are going with first...maybe even get the blower on and see how you like the car with the stock cam. You never know, you may decide it's enough power for you and you like the car the way it is. Its nice having FI power with stock drivability. You could always add the cam down the road, and if you did, you would have a better idea what you want/need. __________________ 2014 Camaro SS Spring Edition LSX440ci LSX Block, MAST 305 Black Labels, Exceldyne Valves, Diamond Pistons, Callies Crank & Rods, Cam Motion Cam, Johnson 2116LSR Lifters, Comp XDA Pushrods, Jesel Rockers, Mamo MSD, NW 102, Roto-Fab CAI, FAST 65# Injectors, ZL1 Fuel Pump, Kooks 2" Headers, Corsa Sport 3" Catback, Z28 Shifter, ZR1 Clutch, Katech LW Flywheel, 1LE 3.91 Diff, LPW Diff Cover, BMR - 1.4" Springs, LCA's, Trailing Arms, Toe Rods, Sway Bars, End Links, Diff Bushings, and Tunnel Brace, Z28/1LE Strut Tower Brace, Improved Racing Oil Cooler 2023 Camaro ZL1 / 1LE Stock

04-11-2020, 08:36 AM	#18
Lethal Racing Drives: LSx Performance Specialist Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Lafayette, LA Posts: 517	If you would do a cam like the Night Fury, it would be best to put it on at least a 115. That would be better for the blower in the future. Better bet would be to get a custom spec cam for you.

04-11-2020, 09:45 PM	#25
Greenhornet2 Drives: 2011 Camaro 2SS LS3 Whipple Join Date: May 2019 Location: Connecticut Posts: 1,925	Valk, i too would save for your FI first. That's what i did. My stock cam made almost 600whp with my whipple. As far qs twin turbo, I've not driven in one but with how fast they spool they make a ton of power down pretty low and will out torque my whipple. But think about your end goals. Whipple you are capped at about 900whp. TT easily will get you over 1000whp. I'm going to be happy under 800whp its becoming too much for the street comfortably as is. __________________ Whipple 2.9 CAI ID1050x injectors ZL1 Pump JRE FPCM JMS Voltage booster JRE Rough Idle blower cam BTR .660 springs CHE trunnion kit 1 7/8 Speed Engineering Borla Atak JRE scoop 1.5" lowering springs BMR trailing arms and toe links Cradle inserts 704WHP 603WTQ 93 octane

04-11-2020, 10:11 PM	#26
Valkyrie14 Valkyrie14 Drives: Chevrolet Camaro SS Join Date: Mar 2020 Location: Eau Claire, Wisconsin Posts: 962	I have no interest in 1000 hp. Okay I do, but I am rationale and no that it would not end well. I want to be in the 600-709 range. I really want the power from a stop. __________________ 2014 SS LS3/LSA Supercharger, 10% Super Damper, 2.55 upper, AGP Dual Pump, ID 1050 injectors, Pegasus solid rear cradle bushings, LT Headers, Roto-Fab CAI, Elite E2 catch can, E85 corn fed, 160 Thermostat, Monster Twin Disk, MGW Short Throw shifter, Tick Clutch Master Cylinder, HP Tuners, JL Audio system.

04-12-2020, 07:21 AM	#27
Greenhornet2 Drives: 2011 Camaro 2SS LS3 Whipple Join Date: May 2019 Location: Connecticut Posts: 1,925	If that is all you want and you want that real low torque go for the PD. If you want to save money i would look into finding a used LSA. I made almost 600whp with my whipple on stock cam with 3.875 pulley. Drop to a 3.625 and i would have been around 630whp around 13psi. That was with full length headers zl1 pump jre fpcm id1050x injectors. If you go LSA have it ported before you put it on but you'll likely need the cam to get you over 600. Getting more than that you'll want to do the cam next. Ted recommended i not go much over 10psi so I've been sticking to that. I've read a lot have been ok at 13, 14 psi but the risk of pushing coolant is higher. If you stud the heads you'd been good for more boost. __________________ Whipple 2.9 CAI ID1050x injectors ZL1 Pump JRE FPCM JMS Voltage booster JRE Rough Idle blower cam BTR .660 springs CHE trunnion kit 1 7/8 Speed Engineering Borla Atak JRE scoop 1.5" lowering springs BMR trailing arms and toe links Cradle inserts 704WHP 603WTQ 93 octane