VARARAM Test unit #007 w/ Chuck CoW tune

[GrnMchin]

Originally Posted by 2SSRS

And that is what you need to do for your self as it is your car. All any one of us can do is read all the info out there and find what will work for them.

I got lucky i had a low VIN car and i let all the manufacturer use my car for fit and testing, So to say that i have a monetary desire to push the Vararam over the XYZ CAI is funny as i am not in the bizz of car parts or marketing.

I am a fanboy for this CAMARO only and want us all to have the best car, And the best parts out there and if i can help us all find the best parts that is what i have tried to do.

Buy what you think is the best for you, that is how it work in this country, But to insult someone that dos not see it the way you do is not how we do it in the US.

And in time we will see if i am right or not as i think that sooner then you think the VARARAM unit will be out and all this can end, It takes time to get it right, But to get it out only takes one day.

I would call myself a fan of the Camaro maybe not a fan boy (I will call it as I see it and always with fact to back it up), but have been waiting for Vararam patiently as this might be what I willl go with as far as a CAI. I hope to get more info and not even sure I want to mod our 2010 much if at all (Have a moded car that can be a pain at times). I see both side of the ongoing saga of CAI and both sides have good points. I just don't have all the data I need so I will continue to be patient and have a wait and see approach. Tack would be the best approach rather then full on flaming that seem to be the more common on the web.

[axis]

Originally Posted by 2SSRS

I got lucky i had a low VIN car and i let all the manufacturer use my car for fit and testing, So to say that i have a monetary desire to push the Vararam over the XYZ CAI is funny as i am not in the bizz of car parts or marketing.

I am a fanboy for this CAMARO only and want us all to have the best car, And the best parts out there and if i can help us all find the best parts that is what i have tried to do.

But when you come in every thread about CAI's and push the Vararam unit, you put yourself in the "marketing" arena. The fact is, YOU have one, as do a few others. They are still beta testing so the end product isn't finished, yet you are "marketing" their system here and in other threads. To say you're not in the "marketing" side or that you don't have a monetary desire is pretty funny. How much did you pay for your CAI? That's a $500 incentive, along with free dyno pulls, tuning, etc. That stuff quickly adds up to big $$. Why not chill out, enjoy what you have, get the info that's needed to make it the best system it can be, then let it stand on it's own merits. You've lost most, if not all, your credibility from the other threads you've been involved in. Knowing that you're a beta-tester limits your credibility on their product to begin with. That's not saying you don't know about their product or anything else, just that your opinion is BIASED as you've recieved plenty of monetary incentive to be that way. Whether or not you're truely being biased doesn't matter. There's the APPEARANCE of it seeing that you've recieved compensation (via parts, tuning, etc). That in itself makes your personal opinion less credible, until the end product arrives. You should have stuck with saying you like it and that you think many others will too. When the unit is open to the masses and it gets tested by a INDEPENDENT source, with no ties to Vararam, will it be shown to do what it will do. IMO, beta-testers should have to sign a NDA to be one. I can say one thing, after all this, if this intake isn't the best thing to hit the market since round tires, it will be a complete letdown. RARELY does anything hold up to it's hype. Time will tell.

Once it finally arrives, you, along with the others can be VERY helpful in helping out others that have questions regarding THEIR units.

[2SSRS@Gen5diy]

i paid for my dyno pulls and if you think a $390 CAI is worth 6000 mi + on my car, and the Gas is more then the CAI, as for tuning my car, My car dos not have a tune on it and if it ever gets one the only guy that will do it is some one that has not chimed in on any of thread. You say that i am on all the CAI threads i am not it is the way you look at it, I had a CAI manufacturer ask me on Saturday if i can help him find the right location for the MAP censer as his unit did some funny things at start up, and if you dont like what i have to say don't pay attention.

You can chose not to read my post as i have done to some.

[mtcwby]

Originally Posted by 2SSRS

i paid for my dyno pulls and if you think a $390 CAI is worth 6000 mi + on my car, and the Gas is more then the CAI, as for tuning my car, My car dos not have a tune on it and if it ever gets one the only guy that will do it is some one that has not chimed in on any of thread. You say that i am on all the CAI threads i am not it is the way you look at it, I had a CAI manufacturer ask me on Saturday if i can help him find the right location for the MAP censer as his unit did some funny things at start up, and if you dont like what i have to say don't pay attention.

You can chose not to read my post as i have done to some.

Why don't you just close your mouth for awhile!!!
Any CAI manufacturer that would ask YOU where they should put their
MAF sensor (not MAP censer) shouldn't be in the business. Most
CAI manufacturers have engineers on their payrolls that can figure
out where the best location for a MAF sensor. You have to understand
fluid dynamics to know this. If they had read any of your post on this subject
they wouldn't come within a mile of asking for your opinion. I'm guessing
that Vararam is really having second thoughts for ever considering
having you as one of their testers.
Just my humble opinion, but doubt I'm alone.
Please read and heed the quote by Ben Franklin on my signature!!

[Icntdrv55]

Now THAT was some funny SHEIT Don !!

[2SSRS@Gen5diy]

I doubt that don. As i said if you don't like it don't post, P.S. i have more than 17,000 mi on the car.

[POWERFREAK]

dyno results posted!!!! +46hp/+57tq (this is the "tune only" Vararam).

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=49383

[herkman]

Well I have test unit #008 and my car made 75 more HP at the rear wheels without a tune and I can prove it! I even had some extra to put in the glove compartment.

[POWERFREAK]

Originally Posted by herkman

Well I have test unit #008 and my car made 75 more HP at the rear wheels without a tune and I can prove it! I even had some extra to put in the glove compartment.

is that supposed to be a joke or are you serious?

[Icntdrv55]

OK now I am not a beta tester for Vararam but I have to say I have been waiting for this CAI for months. NOT because of what 2SSRS says about it but because I have done a lot of research on this CAI. Unfortunately I have to say, the more I read from 2SSRS the more I am turned off to this CAI. Other CAI manufacturers have put out numbers and backed them up and for the most part, no one has over exaggerated their numbers. 2SSRS, by continuing to state that the Vararam will put out 40hp with no data to support that, you are setting Vararam up for failure. Vararam sales, if you are listening, you may want to tell your beta testers to speak conservatively of the HP/TQ gains of this CAI. If you state this CAI will produce 20hp and the first person on the wait list has his car dyno’ed and it shows 40hp, you guys are hero’s and everyone will just say, WOW Vararam was very conservative on their numbers. BUT, and this is a BIG BUT, if you state that it puts out 40hp and the first person on the wait list has it dyno’ed and it “only” puts out 30hp, people will throw the BS flag. You may get more people taking you up on your return policy as the CAI is not living up to the performance that 2SSRS stated!

Just my two cents, but what do I know, I am only a Satellite engineer!

[Badger]

I love this thread...

[2SSRS@Gen5diy]

To all you non believers go buy what you want, Don't listen to me i don't know what i am saying all the rest do,
Don't get the hurst shifter as i got one for free as i was there beta tester too so i must have a opinion that is BIASED.

Dont forget K&N as i got a free air filter and will get a CAI so i most have a BIASED.

One more thing to for you to think on As i and some more guys on hear all so got Revolution Supersport Camaro to come on on this site and show all of us his hood and parts and for that i have to pay for his part for my car.

[axis]

Originally Posted by 2SSRS

To all you non believers go buy what you want, Don't listen to me i don't know what i am saying all the rest do,
Don't get the hurst shifter as i got one for free as i was there beta tester too so i must have a opinion that is BIASED.

Dont forget K&N as i got a free air filter and will get a CAI so i most have a BIASED.

One more thing to for you to think on As i and some more guys on hear all so got Revolution Supersport Camaro to come on on this site and show all of us his hood and parts and for that i have to pay for his part for my car.

It's pointless to try to reason with you so PLEASE go back to your personal pity party thread and leave your fellow beta testers threads alone. They have gone about theirs in a professional manner and done what they were suppose to do without throwing outrageous claims all over this site. They have waited till they had proof of their output and posted the results. They haven't bad mouthed any other CAI's nor have they attacked any of the vendors for their hard work. Maybe you should take note and try harder next time.

[mtcwby]

Originally Posted by Icntdrv55

Now THAT was some funny SHEIT Don !!

Thanks, Kirk (satellite engineer).
Just got tired of reading 2SSRS's bashing all the CAI's that aren't Vararam.
Vararam is caught in the middle and has to try to live up to
his baseless claims. To think you can get a baseline from one dyno,
then go to an entirely different dyno(even different brand) and get
the Vararam tested. AND expect people to believe the results.
Sorry, I just snapped.