What is up with people hating on the V6?

[ffrcobra_65]

Originally Posted by camarofanatic

i got a 2lt rs and sometimes i feel i wish i had the v8. im 20 so other guys in my age bracket give me alot of garbage for it. be honest if i went with the SS i wouldn't of been able to get the rs package, just bone stock. i look at it this way i got a great looking car thats awsome to drive i save my self a ton of money and once i graduate respiratory therapy school i can by what ever i want but for now its a perfect car and i truly love it...and thats what counts

Amen to that.

About the Camaro V6 beating a Mustang GT....stock vs stock, I highly doubt that.
I am not trying to incite anything but I simply wanna ask, how do you react or feel when someone says, "nice car, is the SS V8 or just a V6?" (you know the tone of some of these envious people). I have gotten asked that almost every other time at a gas station, etc. Honestly, again, not to incite anything, when I get asked that, I am so glad I have the SS LS3. I would hate to let some of those envious knuckleheads walk away smirking and feeling like they rained on my parade. That is just me. I am sensitive...I am weak....I got issues..I need help...

[cliffy]

Originally Posted by CamaroFemme

Here's the hilarious part: my first car was a V8 '80 blue Camaro. Then, the V8 "only" had 300-something horsepower. So today's V6 has the power of yesterday's V8.

I guarantee you your 80 camaro had 185 hp tops, 300 would have been a revelation

[brAnd7onX]

Originally Posted by philipdistefano

Seriously, I keep seeing snide comments across the forums like, "Why buy a V6 muscle car?" It really annoys me because the V6 in the Camaro is so powerful. Some people don't plan on racing or showing off how loud their engine is - I personally just want a kicka** car to drive, I love the Camaro, and the 2LT is what I can afford. Not only in base price, but slightly less for insurance and a crapton less for gas (won't need premium and the MPG is better). With the 2LT, my loan will only be 4 years (putting half down), and I'm 23 years old. I don't want to be in a crapton of debt so early in my life, and I think a 2LT/RS Camaro is a pretty kick** car for a 23 year old (or heck, for any age). I have the rest of my life to buy a V8 if I want one.

Anyone else tired of the V6 hate? :/

You have pretty much took all of the words out of my mouth. I'm turning 23 in January and I work part-time at UPS and I would love the SS but after many of aspects that you've also stated, the V6 is the smarter buy for guys like us. We would rather have a V6 camaro then buy the V8 and end up getting it repoed because we go into major debt. Maybe in a few years we will trade our V6's in for the V8's?

[CamaroFemme]

Originally Posted by ssump29

Why do guys bring up the cars of the past that had less hp to try and make a point. Because you aren't telling the whole truth to the matter, we all know in the mid 70s to late 80s the government all but banned hp because of the fuel crisis. So lets look at the factors to why those cars weren't burning up the streets, if the restrictions weren't there trust me those cars would have been putting out lots of power.

Comparing todays cars to an era with restrictions imposed isn't wise.

Why not? People who love the Camaro, in general, seem to love ALL incarnations of it. Regardless of the reason why, the fact stands that yesterday's V8, while still belonging to a muscle car, put out about the same power (or less?) as today's V6.

[brAnd7onX]

Originally Posted by ffrcobra_65

Amen to that.
Honestly, again, not to incite anything, when I get asked that, I am so glad I have the SS LS3. I would hate to let some of those envious knuckleheads walk away smirking and feeling like they rained on my parade. That is just me. I am sensitive...I am weak....I got issues

That's nice and all, but some of us don't need to brag that we have a V8 because what matters in the end is that we have a CAMARO and they don't... that's more important than whether the car is a V6 or a V8.

[CamaroFemme]

Originally Posted by cliffy

I guarantee you your 80 camaro had 185 hp tops, 300 would have been a revelation

Hey, I can only tell you what my uncle told me back then, as it used to be his. By the time I got it it had nearly 100,000 miles on it, so I really couldn't say from the feel of the car.

[JJ#48Racing]

Until the day comes where the V6 makes more HP and TQ than the same year V8, there will always be some hate for the V6. Just like if a supercharged Z28 comes out tomorrow there will be hate for the SS. The top model rules the street, simple as that.

[Stewcam]

Originally Posted by CamaroFemme

Here's the hilarious part: my first car was a V8 '80 blue Camaro. Then, the V8 "only" had 300-something horsepower. So today's V6 has the power of yesterday's V8.

Try 190 hp. I had an 82 z28 and it was even worse. The new v6 has more power than the v8's from 1972 to well into the 1990's. I did have a 1970 z28 with a few tricks that put it over 400 hp but it still would probably only run 13.2 in the quarter mile.

[BLKnCHRME09Deluxe]

IMO ....


The V6 is like buying a 2 wheel drive 4x4 ....why buy a V6 muscle car which is meant to have a V8......just sayen

[CamaroFemme]

Originally Posted by Stewcam

Try 190 hp. I had an 82 z28 and it was even worse. The new v6 has more power than the v8's from 1972 to well into the 1990's. I did have a 1970 z28 with a few tricks that put it over 400 hp but it still would probably only run 13.2 in the quarter mile.

Once more, I can only tell you what my uncle told me. I was utterly not into cars at the time and drove it in way back in '94 so I can't say. Mods, maybe? But the point I was making stands. Would they be making fun of a classic Camaro? Nope.

[rmpackers]

Originally Posted by "prima"Donna

I still think my V6 is a ROCKETSHIP!!!...

It's fast enough for me, for the way I drive, and for my DD...

My husband has a '95 Corvette that he bought used 3 yrs ago, and I had a '76 Firebird 350HP V8, 'back in the day'...so, 'been there, done that', with the V8s and the manual transmissions...

I am enjoying my car just the way it is, as I might have mentioned once or twice on this forum...

Oh, and did I also mention that I LOVE, LOVE, LOVE, this car?!?!.............

Ditto

[bi11ymc]

Originally Posted by Stewcam

Try 190 hp. I had an 82 z28 and it was even worse. The new v6 has more power than the v8's from 1972 to well into the 1990's. I did have a 1970 z28 with a few tricks that put it over 400 hp but it still would probably only run 13.2 in the quarter mile.

My father had a 74 Corvette with a huge big block 454CI motor rated at 180HP

My 1978 T/A 6.6 Liter was rated at 220HP

[greenrail]

Originally Posted by ssump29

Why do guys bring up the cars of the past that had less hp to try and make a point. Because you aren't telling the whole truth to the matter, we all know in the mid 70s to late 80s the government all but banned hp because of the fuel crisis. So lets look at the factors to why those cars weren't burning up the streets, if the restrictions weren't there trust me those cars would have been putting out lots of power.

Comparing todays cars to an era with restrictions imposed isn't wise.

What???? Hold on a minute. Take a look at the technolgies that have been developed since the 1970's. It wasn't just governement restricting power output. That is nowhere near what was going on.

The auto industry was caught up in the late '60's Horsepower wars. When the first fuel crisis hit then things turned. Fuel ecomony and environmental concerns ruled the day. It took until the mid '80's for the Manufacturers to start to catch up.

By the end of the '90's the technolgy was emerging to give us much more efficient, more environmentally friendly, powerful automobiles.

Government Mandates didn't restrict horespower, per se, it was a lack of technology at the time.

Let's be realistic here. Consider what you get with a 2010 Camaro with the LS3..... 426 horspower, and darn good fuel economy. (17/24 ) No way in hell, that the original Camaros (COPO or otherwise) could come close to this kind of efficiency and be as clean running in terms of emissions.

Been there, lived through it and actually, this is why I feel this new Camaro is light years ahead of what we had back in the day.

If you don't believe it, go back and look at the Laws that were in place.

About the only Manufacturers that had any semblance of power were the Foreign Exotics sold at the time. (i.e. Porsche, Ferrari, Lamborghini, etc.) Becuasethey were far enough advanced to bring their technology to a market where cost was no object.

The manufacturers worked with what they had and it took almost 30 years to develop the necessary technolgies to be where we are at today.

Bottomline is, that it was a lag in technology that did the most damage to performance at the time.

[dhammis]

I've got a 2LT on order and there was a 2SS in the lot and available to drive away today if I so desired. I had one friend start to give me grief about not getting the V8 until I told him it was 304 HP. He didn't know it was that much. My decision was purely financial as the V6 has a lower total cost of ownership than the V8. I got the same grief with my 883 Harley. People asked why I didn't get the 1200. The 883 got my happy butt up the freeway at 85mph without a problem and I never regretted getting the smaller motor. I am getting a stick but that's largely because I enjoy driving a stick (even in stop and go traffic.)

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