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lalometalik · 10-01-2008, 11:59 AM

i wonder how these features will effect fuel economy???

u know, just wonderin...

headpunter · 10-01-2008, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by lalometalik

i wonder how these features will effect fuel economy???

u know, just wonderin...

you dont have to launch every time, when you do your not concerned with fuel economy. kinda a moot point.

Jamestwilliams · 10-01-2008, 12:13 PM

Judging by a lot of people on this forum I don't know that many of them seem to care so much about fuel economy. It's all the 500-600hp z28 threads have made me come to that realization. However I think the launch control when used will marginally improve fuel economy, in that you aren't waisting gas spinning your tires, but marginally is the key here as in not noticeably.

SimC33 · 10-01-2008, 12:19 PM

Ok well this may be a noob question to ask, but is this launch control the same thing as the ASR our 4th gens had in them? Because if I recall, you (I) turned the ASR off when we were on the strip?

Chewy · 10-01-2008, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by stovt001

The SS will also have a competition/sport mode for stabilitrac, allowing for more shenanigans without turning it off completely (but it can do that too). So the SS has a number of options for working with the eletronic aids, or nannies, depending on your view.

sweeeet, the more control i have over the stability and traction features of my car the better!

headpunter · 10-01-2008, 01:03 PM

yeah they showed us how it works and it tells you what mode you are in on the DIC, looks really cool

02bluess · 10-01-2008, 02:01 PM

Is the launch rpm manually adustable (I'm assuming) or automatically determined?

If manually adjustable, it sounds a lot like the two-step I installed when I used to race my 4th gen

How cool is that? Can't think of many other production cars that come with a factory two-step

Paul...

headpunter · 10-01-2008, 02:04 PM

i dont know but im sure you can tune it to raise or lower rpms depending on your various modifications

themossman · 10-01-2008, 02:05 PM

The E46 M3 had launch control on the SMG transmissions...but not on the manual.

When engaged, you would floor the gas and it would put the revs to the 'optimum' level and when 'released' it would dump the clutch and release the throttle control back to the gas pedal. It was an SMG...so when I say 'dump the clutch...it DUMPED the clutch...quicker than a person could dump it.

The optimal revs don't take into account street temp, tire type/quality, etc...so you could still get wheel spin. This was such a 'violent' process, that BMW had issues and, rumor has it, at one point was threatening to void warranty with excessive use...defined as 'more than three times'. The owners manual simply cautions against excessive use.

Here's a couple of good videos of it 'in action'.

Notice this one has more wheel spin.....

DntWrryBeHappy21 · 10-01-2008, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by headpunter

i dont know but im sure you can tune it to raise or lower rpms depending on your various modifications

I guess you would have to if your torque is increased?

I think this is a cool feature especially for those of us who arent as familiar with driving stick so we dont grind the gears as easily? (that is what it woudl help) while also reduciing tirespin to save the treads a bit longer?

Grape Ape · 10-01-2008, 03:21 PM

What is the big deal? It is just a lower (gentler?) rev limiter.

The no lift shift is pretty cool in that it causes the Cobalt SS’s (turbo charged) engine to run less efficiently (at WOT with the clutch pedal down) so it can keep the turbo spooled up without hitting the rev limiter too hard. Not that that would help the Camaro any.

Interesting but old (March) 08 Cobalt SS review: http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...ticleId=125288

*radz28* · 10-01-2008, 03:35 PM

I'm on the fence with this feature because I think it takes a little away from the excitement of trying to come off the line like you were kicked by God. I'm not going to complain about it, I just hope I can defeat it if I want. I'm a kinda' manual tranny snob although my current car is a stalled auto' but I'd like to be able to get a manual car next and have fun powershifting again.

headpunter · 10-01-2008, 03:40 PM

as long as we can tune it thru the ECM i dont care

*Mr. Wyndham* · 10-01-2008, 03:45 PM

It's an on/off feature I thought

...if you don't want to use it...don't.

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10-01-2008, 01:03 PM	#20
headpunter Not That sad..considering Drives: Man Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: the part of washington the capital forgot about. Posts: 3,745 View My Garage	yeah they showed us how it works and it tells you what mode you are in on the DIC, looks really cool __________________ Stop Whinging

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headpunter Not That sad..considering Drives: Man Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: the part of washington the capital forgot about. Posts: 3,745 View My Garage	i dont know but im sure you can tune it to raise or lower rpms depending on your various modifications __________________ Stop Whinging

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10-01-2008, 03:40 PM	#27
headpunter Not That sad..considering Drives: Man Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: the part of washington the capital forgot about. Posts: 3,745 View My Garage	as long as we can tune it thru the ECM i dont care __________________ Stop Whinging

10-01-2008, 12:13 PM	#17
Jamestwilliams junior member Drives: Grand Am Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: canada Posts: 534	Judging by a lot of people on this forum I don't know that many of them seem to care so much about fuel economy. It's all the 500-600hp z28 threads have made me come to that realization. However I think the launch control when used will marginally improve fuel economy, in that you aren't waisting gas spinning your tires, but marginally is the key here as in not noticeably.

10-01-2008, 12:19 PM	#18
SimC33 Drives: 2001 Blk/Blk M6 Camaro SS #899 Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Baton Rouge, LA Posts: 482	Ok well this may be a noob question to ask, but is this launch control the same thing as the ASR our 4th gens had in them? Because if I recall, you (I) turned the ASR off when we were on the strip?

10-01-2008, 02:01 PM	#21
02bluess Camaro Addict Drives: 2014 Camaro ZL1 SIM A6 Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Normal, IL Posts: 367	Is the launch rpm manually adustable (I'm assuming) or automatically determined? If manually adjustable, it sounds a lot like the two-step I installed when I used to race my 4th gen How cool is that? Can't think of many other production cars that come with a factory two-step Paul...

10-01-2008, 03:21 PM	#25
Grape Ape Drives: 96 Bronco w/ a 5 speed Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: PNW Posts: 296	What is the big deal? It is just a lower (gentler?) rev limiter. The no lift shift is pretty cool in that it causes the Cobalt SS’s (turbo charged) engine to run less efficiently (at WOT with the clutch pedal down) so it can keep the turbo spooled up without hitting the rev limiter too hard. Not that that would help the Camaro any. Interesting but old (March) 08 Cobalt SS review: http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...ticleId=125288

10-01-2008, 03:45 PM	#28
Mr. Wyndham I used to be Dragoneye... Drives: 2018 ZL1 1LE Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 31,873 View My Garage	It's an on/off feature I thought...if you don't want to use it...don't. __________________ *"Keep the faith."* - Fbodfather

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