Will the 5th have the infamous recording black box? - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

odie23 · 10-02-2008, 10:30 AM

I've read some car companies are installing data recorders in cars now (black boxs), anyone concerned about this in the Camaro?
Supposely, a Nissan GTR customer just canceled his order because he didn't like the idea that his driving habits could be used to invalidate warranty claims, insurance denials, or legal issues in the event of a crash.
The owner does have to give consent, however, a court order can be obtained if they refuse.
If you could figure out how to turn it off, would that invalidate a warranty claim? I'm not a lawyer, but it seems like owners have less and less to say about what they do with their own cars.

headpunter · 10-02-2008, 10:32 AM

not till 2012 when they are federally mandated

Design1stCode2nd · 10-02-2008, 10:32 AM

I think most new cars will. Not to the extent of the GT-R as they are only supposed to record just prior, during and just after an airbag deploys.

Sizzox · 10-02-2008, 10:38 AM

Yeah i thought some cars had that but it only held like 30 seconds of info for the example of getting in a wreck so they couls see speed and other kinds of diagnostics of the car.

*DGthe3* · 10-02-2008, 10:39 AM

I believe most cars have some sort of data recorder for crash investigation purposes.

headpunter · 10-02-2008, 10:40 AM

cars do the 30sec before a crash now. thats how i was found not at fault when my anti lock brakes failed and didnt give any sensor inputs to the system

lalometalik · 10-02-2008, 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by headpunter

not till 2012 when they are federally mandated

is this another ploy to keep America safe from "terrorists"?

rolnslo · 10-02-2008, 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lalometalik

is this another ploy to keep America safe from "terrorists"?

Nah, I think it's just a case of CYA for vehicle manufacturers and insurance companies.

*radz28* · 10-02-2008, 01:20 PM

Don't get me started on insurance companies...

Black5thgen · 10-02-2008, 02:06 PM

I remeber reading something a few years back about a guy who got in trouble because the black box in his LS1 Trans Am told a different story than him. I'm pretty sure if the late 4th gens had it the 5th gen will too.
I found the article http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2...18/161529.html

Sizzox · 10-02-2008, 02:11 PM

Good article nice find.

The_Stache · 10-02-2008, 02:11 PM

ODBII... already in cars and has been for years. YES it will have it.

Tantalizer43 · 10-02-2008, 02:19 PM

Pretty soon the federal government will be choosing cars for us and assigning us our cars...

*radz28* · 10-02-2008, 03:37 PM

As long as I'm assigned a Z28 with an LSA I won't complain

10-02-2008, 10:30 AM	#1
odie23 Drives: Jeep Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Michigan Posts: 123	Will the 5th have the infamous recording black box? I've read some car companies are installing data recorders in cars now (black boxs), anyone concerned about this in the Camaro? Supposely, a Nissan GTR customer just canceled his order because he didn't like the idea that his driving habits could be used to invalidate warranty claims, insurance denials, or legal issues in the event of a crash. The owner does have to give consent, however, a court order can be obtained if they refuse. If you could figure out how to turn it off, would that invalidate a warranty claim? I'm not a lawyer, but it seems like owners have less and less to say about what they do with their own cars.

10-02-2008, 10:32 AM	#2
headpunter Not That sad..considering Drives: Man Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: the part of washington the capital forgot about. Posts: 3,745 View My Garage	not till 2012 when they are federally mandated __________________ Stop Whinging

10-02-2008, 10:39 AM	#5
DGthe3 Moderator.ca Drives: 05 Grand Am GT Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Niagara, Canada Posts: 25,366	I believe most cars have some sort of data recorder for crash investigation purposes. __________________ Note, if I've gotten any facts wrong in the above, just ignore any points I made with them __________________ Originally Posted by FbodFather My sister's dentist's brother's cousin's housekeeper's dog-breeder's nephew sells coffee filters to the company that provides coffee to General Motors...... ........and HE WOULD KNOW!!!! __________________ Camaro Fest sub-forum

10-02-2008, 10:40 AM	#6
headpunter Not That sad..considering Drives: Man Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: the part of washington the capital forgot about. Posts: 3,745 View My Garage	cars do the 30sec before a crash now. thats how i was found not at fault when my anti lock brakes failed and didnt give any sensor inputs to the system __________________ Stop Whinging

10-02-2008, 01:20 PM	#9
radz28 Petro-sexual Drives: Ultra-Grin Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Crazy Coast Posts: 15,796 View My Garage	Don't get me started on insurance companies... __________________ '20 ZL1 Black "Fury" A10, PDR, Exposed CF Extractor Magnuson Magnum DI TVS2650R // RFBG // Soler 103 // TooHighPSI Port Injection // THPSI Billet Lid // FF // Katech Drop-In // PLM Heat Exchanger // ZLE Cradle bushings // BMR Chassis-Suspension Stuff // aFe Bars // Diode Dynamics LEDs // ACS Composites Guards // CF Dash // Aeroforce // tint // other stuffs

10-02-2008, 10:32 AM	#3
Design1stCode2nd Drives: four wheels Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: usa Posts: 585	I think most new cars will. Not to the extent of the GT-R as they are only supposed to record just prior, during and just after an airbag deploys.

10-02-2008, 10:38 AM	#4
Sizzox Most Known Unknown Drives: 08 Vette Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Salem, Ohio Posts: 778 View My Garage	Yeah i thought some cars had that but it only held like 30 seconds of info for the example of getting in a wreck so they couls see speed and other kinds of diagnostics of the car.

10-02-2008, 02:06 PM	#10
Black5thgen Account Suspended Drives: 2007 C6 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: chicago Posts: 2,251 View My Garage	I remeber reading something a few years back about a guy who got in trouble because the black box in his LS1 Trans Am told a different story than him. I'm pretty sure if the late 4th gens had it the 5th gen will too. I found the article http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2...18/161529.html

10-02-2008, 02:11 PM	#11
Sizzox Most Known Unknown Drives: 08 Vette Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Salem, Ohio Posts: 778 View My Garage	Good article nice find.

10-02-2008, 02:11 PM	#12
The_Stache SoCal Race Team #13 Drives: 2010 1SS:RS:LS3:SW Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Gilbert, AZ Posts: 1,800 View My Garage	ODBII... already in cars and has been for years. YES it will have it. __________________ A.K.A - Diarmadhi (old handle) - So much to do.. So little money Owner : Fast-Stache Industries LLC

10-02-2008, 02:19 PM	#13
Tantalizer43 Drives: 2010 Camaro SS/RS Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Cincinnati OH Posts: 1,359	Pretty soon the federal government will be choosing cars for us and assigning us our cars... __________________

10-02-2008, 03:37 PM	#14
radz28 Petro-sexual Drives: Ultra-Grin Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Crazy Coast Posts: 15,796 View My Garage	As long as I'm assigned a Z28 with an LSA I won't complain __________________ '20 ZL1 Black "Fury" A10, PDR, Exposed CF Extractor Magnuson Magnum DI TVS2650R // RFBG // Soler 103 // TooHighPSI Port Injection // THPSI Billet Lid // FF // Katech Drop-In // PLM Heat Exchanger // ZLE Cradle bushings // BMR Chassis-Suspension Stuff // aFe Bars // Diode Dynamics LEDs // ACS Composites Guards // CF Dash // Aeroforce // tint // other stuffs

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