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Old 10-07-2008, 08:38 PM   #43
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It says, "Camaro owners that have the factory Illumination Package...". And under packages, it doesn't have any package called Illumination Package and it doesnt talk about the ambient lighting anywhere in it.

So I'm wondering what models is this standard on and is it an option on models that its not on?
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Old 10-07-2008, 08:40 PM   #44
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i could be mistaken but this may be the grille insert
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Old 10-07-2008, 08:54 PM   #45
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the engine oil cooler is mounted on the oil pan from what i have seen on pictures

programable door locks just means they have a couple of different ways they can work like not locking as soon as you press the button or not locking if the key is in the ignition and the car is in park, (keeps you from locking your keys in the car, just little things
How would that work? Every vehicle i've ever had that had an oil cooler had it mounted in front of the radiator along with a/c and tranny cooler so that air can flow through it just like the radiator. I would be surprised if even the return line were attached to the pan. A pan doesn't have a lot of structural integrity. That's why the drain plug is the only thing on the panunless they have some new technology. Anything pressed or welded to a thing member like a oil pan is what is known as a stress riser and has a higher probability of propagating a crack. Do you have the pictures you refer to? Not trying to start an argument. Trying to be a constructive part of this discussion.
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Old 10-07-2008, 09:26 PM   #46
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How would that work? Every vehicle i've ever had that had an oil cooler had it mounted in front of the radiator along with a/c and tranny cooler so that air can flow through it just like the radiator. I would be surprised if even the return line were attached to the pan. A pan doesn't have a lot of structural integrity. That's why the drain plug is the only thing on the panunless they have some new technology. Anything pressed or welded to a thing member like a oil pan is what is known as a stress riser and has a higher probability of propagating a crack. Do you have the pictures you refer to? Not trying to start an argument. Trying to be a constructive part of this discussion.

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The oil pan used on the Camaro LS3 is quite a bit different than the one used on LS1s in the 4 Gen cars and it's different from the one used by the LS3 when it was introduced on the Corvette for 2008. The Camaro pan is a bit bigger inside holding a additional two quarts of oil compared to the Vette LS3. Otherwise, the pan is similar in concept to other Gen 3/4 oil pans in that, besides holding all the oil, it acts as a sound insulator and add some rigidity to the bottom of the block. In addition, the Camaro LS3 has an engine oil cooler because, according to ACE Ron Meegan, "...of the (vehicle) weight and the (reduced) air flow around the engine in this package, some of the more aggressive driving modes required us to use a cooler to meet our oil temperature requirements." The Camaro oil cooler is the same type of oil-to-coolant heat exchanger used by the supercharged LSA in the Cadillac CTS-V and it is mounted in a similar location, on the left side of the oil pan.
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Great reply! Welcome to the site. I owe you bonus points. Guess I have to admit i'm not up to speed with 21st century automotive technology. It appears to be a rigid cast aluminum pan rather than the old stamped sheetmetal pans of years gone by. I under stood the reason for an oil cooler, just didn't envision how it was built into the pan. I haven't turned wrenches on cars in a few years other than a few basic mods i've done myself. I could rebuild a engine with a few hundred dollars worth of tools years ago. It has to cost a fortune to due extensive repairs nowdays.
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So is the module on the side of the pan the pump, or is the pump in or on the block?
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So is the module on the side of the pan the pump, or is the pump in or on the block?
pump is mounted on/in the block, what your seeing on the side is the cooler, filter, and plumbing.
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pump is mounted on/in the block, what your seeing on the side is the cooler, filter, and plumbing.
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Old 10-07-2008, 11:14 PM   #51
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pump is mounted on/in the block, what your seeing on the side is the cooler, filter, and plumbing.

Uh Not So Sure On That.. Unless there Are TWO OIL FILTER..The SS @ INDY. HAD A Cartridge Filter ON THE TOP DRIVERSIDE OF THE BLOCK.. I Know there are Pix On here Somewhere..
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Old 10-07-2008, 11:16 PM   #52
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Uh Not So Sure On That.. Unless there Are TWO OIL FILTER..The SS @ INDY. HAD A Cartridge Filter ON THE TOP DRIVERSIDE OF THE BLOCK.. I Know there are Pix On here Somewhere..
if you look at that oilpan you can see the blue oil filter....zoom in using your web browser
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if you look at that oilpan you can see the blue oil filter....zoom in using your web browser
yeah I Saw That.... BUT i also Know What I SAW @ INDY... Looking for the pix now..
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Old 10-07-2008, 11:21 PM   #54
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yeah I Saw That.... BUT i also Know What I SAW @ INDY... Looking for the pix now..
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Old 10-07-2008, 11:40 PM   #55
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ok,ok I Admit i was CONFUSED.. Not To Be MISTAKEN AS BEING WRONG.. I WAS THINKING OF THE V6.. MY BAD.. You Sir Are Correct..



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