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Old 02-18-2010, 03:45 PM   #15
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Hey Junk,

I have used the dual bucket grit gaurd wash system including 2 Adams wash mitts, a foam gun with Adams soap, and use one of those blowers to dry the car. After doing so I use Adams MF towels to buff it with their detail spray.

I dont use a circular motion so I do not have swirls, but there are very light scratches throughout the entire vehicle. It seems that Ive done everything I am supposed to, I rinse the car to get the big dirt off, I foam it down and let it soak, I start at the top of the car and work down and I rinse the mitt after each panel. So what could be the cause of this? the only thing I can think of is the mitts?
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Old 02-18-2010, 04:01 PM   #16
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Hey Junk,

I have used the dual bucket grit gaurd wash system including 2 Adams wash mitts, a foam gun with Adams soap, and use one of those blowers to dry the car. After doing so I use Adams MF towels to buff it with their detail spray.

I dont use a circular motion so I do not have swirls, but there are very light scratches throughout the entire vehicle. It seems that Ive done everything I am supposed to, I rinse the car to get the big dirt off, I foam it down and let it soak, I start at the top of the car and work down and I rinse the mitt after each panel. So what could be the cause of this? the only thing I can think of is the mitts?
And that very well could be the case, especially if super fine dirt particles are being caught up in those wash pads. Here's one wat to find out. Drop into a Auto Zone and buy two of those green microfiber wash mitts. They will be the ones that look like they have dreadlocks on both sides of the mitt and your hand goes inside them. They look like this:



After correcting the scratches that you see now (which should easily come out with FMP and the white pad), do your next wash using the green mitts. See if you get the same results. Make sure you rinse those mitts really well as you're washing around the bottom of the car. I still use my green mitts as I am torn between which give me the better results. I too saw some scratching so you are probably not doing anything wrong. If I find the wash pads to be the problem, I will have Adam go with something else.
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Old 02-18-2010, 04:30 PM   #17
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I am not surprised, for some reason or other the black paint is very crappy comign out of GM. Same problem on my black silverado. I have scratched it with a fine microfibre cloth.

Get used to it. At least i can fix it myself, but i dont bother anymore.
Yea it is crazy how bad the paint on GM cars are. You can literally touch the paint on these cars and cause scratches, same way on my cobalt, thats why it takes me 1.5 hrs. just to wash the car. I hate to say it but the best paint I have seen is on hondas.
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Old 02-18-2010, 04:35 PM   #18
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... I hate to say it but the best paint I have seen is on hondas.



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Old 02-18-2010, 05:58 PM   #19
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Old 02-18-2010, 08:58 PM   #20
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I know right.
I better quit. You're kinda close to me in Ohio!
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Old 02-18-2010, 10:39 PM   #21
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I better quit. You're kinda close to me in Ohio!
Hahah. It's true tho, we had an 06 civic traded in at our dealer and the paint was still like new. And it was old person owned so it wasn't taken care of to good.
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Old 02-19-2010, 07:11 AM   #22
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The dealership uses the same sloppy old towel to dry your new car off that they just used to dry off that used beater that just came in. Same sponge too. And your new 'maro has been in the holding lot waiting on train, on the train (rail dust), then a car carrier.... lotsa crap sitting on the paint before they take that nasty sponge and run it all over your car. And most of them have never heard of a "clay bar" (children and artists play with clay)

Gruesome nightmare!
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The dealership uses the same sloppy old towel to dry your new car off that they just used to dry off that used beater that just came in. Same sponge too. And your new 'maro has been in the holding lot waiting on train, on the train (rail dust), then a car carrier.... lotsa crap sitting on the paint before they take that nasty sponge and run it all over your car. And most of them have never heard of a "clay bar" (children and artists play with clay)

Gruesome nightmare!

This true for most dealers. I actually care about the cars and get paid to care, I take and pressure wash each new car wash them with a new car mit, clay and wash and wax every new car hear. Now we do have a couple 8.00 dollar an hours that don't care, but I still do all the more expensive cars
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Meant no offense. Just wish your work was in the majority of dealers. .That's all.
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Old 02-20-2010, 02:42 PM   #25
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just took delivery of 2010 black ss. Dealer washed before I took it home. Was getting ready to Wash & Zaino it. They scratched it all over. spoke with dealer and seeing them tomorrow. what should be the fix? Do I need to force them to take it to a shop and wet sand / clear coat paint again? it makes me sick. Any advice would be great. Have 120 miles on it
i know what you are going through. the dealer put a lot of swirl marks on my car after washing. i have not told them yet because i am afraid they will do something else to damage the car. i had taken it in for damage they did to it while fixing other damage. they repeatedly damage my vehicle while fixing their own mistakes.
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i know what you are going through. the dealer put a lot of swirl marks on my car after washing. i have not told them yet because i am afraid they will do something else to damage the car. i had taken it in for damage they did to it while fixing other damage. they repeatedly damage my vehicle while fixing their own mistakes.
Man, you need to cut your loses and run! Have them pay a detailer of your choice to fix it or learn to do it yourself. You have to understand, the days of dealership folks being the best in the business left when Nixon left office. There are mom and pop shops out there that know more about your car and it's paint than a lot of dealerships ever will.

With most dealerships today, you ain't nothing but a figure to their bottom line.
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Man, you need to cut your loses and run! Have them pay a detailer of your choice to fix it or learn to do it yourself. You have to understand, the days of dealership folks being the best in the business left when Nixon left office. There are mom and pop shops out there that know more about your car and it's paint than a lot of dealerships ever will.

With most dealerships today, you ain't nothing but a figure to their bottom line.
unfortunately, i think you speak the truth.
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