VIDEO of New Pfadt Aluminum Rear Subframe Bushings, available now!

[flht99b]

I'll be at the Camaro5Fest and will be interested in riding in a car with the solid rear subframe mounts. I'll also be interested in what that same car sounds and feels like with several thousand miles on it with the solid rear subframe mounts. I'd love to be proved wrong as there is no doubt ( IMHO ) the single biggest contributor to wheel hop in the gen 5 IRS rear suspension is the "cushiness" of the rear cradle mounting to the unibody structure. As an ex GM employee we used to have a saying that "Parts left out cost nothing and cause no warranty claims ". So I have to wonder why GM choose to isolate the rear cradle as much as they did. Of the 3, Noise, Vibration and Harshness, Noise and Vibration are the 2 that over time have the potential to make a daily driver miserable. All 3 are measurable but ultimately subjective to each user and what they can stand. Take it from a long time Harley and even longer Camaro owner. FYI, no one works on my vehicles but me so besides education I have 4 decades of real experience.
Ed M.

[PfadtRacing]

Well stop on over! We are more than willing to show everyone. There will not be any degradation in the aluminum mounts over several thousand miles. This would be true for certain rubbers, soft metals, plastics. I wouldn't be concerned with the deterioration of these aluminum mounts, to contribute to NVH after any typical high milage use. Like I mentioned before, drivetrain/powertrain isolation will be a much more important concern on this chassis.

[PfadtRacing]

Originally Posted by Qwkss

I posted that video on my Facebook page and already sold a kit.
Check us out (Clic the link in my signature) and become a fan to follow along in the build.

Fantastic!

[PfadtRacing]

Originally Posted by Fishdadddy

Wow you guys are making me lean more toward your products every day. Please PM me a price for the mounts. Are they difficult to install? When are your Coil Overs coming out? would like to put together a package including those.

Thanks,
Brian

Check your PM box! Thanks for the interest

[Jeanius]

Originally Posted by Jeanius

Hey Aaron,

AWESOME product!! I LOVE the video!

How practical if I am only working with about 430-450 to the wheels?

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Man looking at the install sheet, I dont know if I could pull that off in the driveway

[2010 SSRS]

nice

[PfadtRacing]

Originally Posted by Jeanius

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Man looking at the install sheet, I dont know if I could pull that off in the driveway

Jeanius, so very sorry. I saw two of your posts (which I just included in one of my replies) and glazed over the third (your first post). Again, my apologies.

First, off, thank you for the compliments on the video. Second, as you can see in the video, there is a HUGE improvement on Camaros with stock powertrain. The wheel hop problem is only accentuated with added torque/power. So that is why we are recommending this subframe mount kit, our trailing arms, our poly differential kit, and our engine mounts to customers who are putting down more power than stock. The combination of these will keep a LARGE amount of power under control, result in less residual losses, and eliminate wheel hop.

So, to answer your question, it is certainly practical if you have 450 to the wheels. I hope you can see why, considering the results on a stock powertrain vehicle.

If you read through the install (I know you already did), it may seem tougher to accomplish if you do not have a lift. Honestly, what I have done in the past, when dropping subframes in a garage, is just to get the car as high as safely possible on jack stands. Then I would use my jack under the differential to lower the subframe. I've done this once with a friend keeping the assembly balanced, and once without. It is easier with a friend of course, especially to help align and install the assembly.

Anyway, I guess my point is, its all just a big set of metal Legos. Ok, maybe thats a bit understated! But you get my point, that if you are moderately mechanically inclined, then you should certainly not be afraid of this install. Hope that helped in some way!

[PfadtRacing]

Originally Posted by 2010 SSRS

nice

Thank you!

[Jeanius]

Originally Posted by PfadtRacing

Jeanius, so very sorry. I saw two of your posts (which I just included in one of my replies) and glazed over the third (your first post). Again, my apologies.

First, off, thank you for the compliments on the video. Second, as you can see in the video, there is a HUGE improvement on Camaros with stock powertrain. The wheel hop problem is only accentuated with added torque/power. So that is why we are recommending this subframe mount kit, our trailing arms, our poly differential kit, and our engine mounts to customers who are putting down more power than stock. The combination of these will keep a LARGE amount of power under control, result in less residual losses, and eliminate wheel hop.

So, to answer your question, it is certainly practical if you have 450 to the wheels. I hope you can see why, considering the results on a stock powertrain vehicle.

If you read through the install (I know you already did), it may seem tougher to accomplish if you do not have a lift. Honestly, what I have done in the past, when dropping subframes in a garage, is just to get the car as high as safely possible on jack stands. Then I would use my jack under the differential to lower the subframe. I've done this once with a friend keeping the assembly balanced, and once without. It is easier with a friend of course, especially to help align and install the assembly.

Anyway, I guess my point is, its all just a big set of metal Legos. Ok, maybe thats a bit understated! But you get my point, that if you are moderately mechanically inclined, then you should certainly not be afraid of this install. Hope that helped in some way!

Thanks Aaron, didnt realize you guys were working with a stock powertrain!

[Windy City]

How will these work out with my Pfadt coil overs and Pfadt bushing kit?
Hmmmmmmmmmmm?

[PfadtRacing]

Originally Posted by Windy City

How will these work out with my Pfadt coil overs and Pfadt bushing kit?
Hmmmmmmmmmmm?

Rhetorical?

[PfadtRacing]

Originally Posted by Jeanius

Thanks Aaron, didnt realize you guys were working with a stock powertrain!

No worries! Any time.

[olblue75]

little pricey IMO im sure i could find a set of poly that would be close and not near as expensive. Sorry guys just my opinion you make some nice stuff but daaaammm

[PfadtRacing]

Originally Posted by olblue75

little pricey IMO im sure i could find a set of poly that would be close and not near as expensive. Sorry guys just my opinion you make some nice stuff but daaaammm

No worries at all olblue75, we understand this product is not in everyone's budget, and as a result, need to purchase something a lot more compliant for the rear subframe mounts. The same can be said about coilovers, or superchargers etc. Not all offerings are in everyones budget, and they offer varying levels of performance accordingly. We appreciate the compliments! Thank you.