One of those question's that I would normally think are stupid...

[Ronn]

Originally Posted by Brandons714

The 2010 won't be available to custom order by than, and I'm already scared that July will be to late, But, I'd rather get a 2010 over the 2011, because, I don't need a HUD, and I fear it will cost much more.

The cutoff at dealers around where I live for 2010's was April 8th. Did they tell you that you can still order a 2010 in July?

[tangorover]

Man calm down None of us are saying that you shouldnt buy the car cause you are young. I hope you listen to me because I am not as old as a lot of people here. Im 26 right now and was in your situation only a few years ago.
What us older and wiser people are trying to tell you is that it is not OK to spend most of your income on ANY one thing. I know it seems cool to have a cool car when you are young but you have to realise that buying that car now and spending all your income now on it will tie you down for 5 years. 5 years is a LONG time.
Just remember that $700 a month is a LOT of money. Its money you can use to establish your life. A lot of us were as young as you and If I had $700 a month extra when I was your age I would have been a LOT richer now.
Dont put your life on hold for 5 years for a car. All of us here are gear heads and love the camaro but ultimately its just a car.

BTW If none of what I said above is of any use then In answer to your original question get the v6. I am a Software Engineer and make a very tidy sum of money but I still got the v6 because it just seems a better value for me. So for someone in your situation its an exact match.

[Ronn]

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=74187

[tangorover]

also PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE never ever do anything more than 5 years. Ull be paying enough in interest to pay for another Kia. and 6 years is a LONG time. At 18 just remember that by the time you end up paying off the car you will be 24 man!!!

[tangorover]

Originally Posted by Brandons714

I see myself in this job as long as needed, it's housing an something that will always be needed. and a better job in the future.

I also am not a very big spender (I've gone months on just $50) I actually live with my GF, but am welcome to stay with my mom if needed (She's actually been trying to get me to move back in, a 6 BD 3 Bath house for her and 3 kids is more than enough) and my dad makes over 300k a year, and will help me if needed, and wants to teach me responsibilities and all that fun stuff (He'd rather me learn the hard way young than to try to force me to go the easy way and fail later on in life.)

Financially, in my position, I've already got everything on paper for the next 6 years, and, I can "Afford" the v8, just leaves me with very little, which is why I was looking into the v6.

Yo guys seriously need to understand that ALL of us in this forum have wanted a car when we were 18 too. When I was 18 I wanted the 30K RX-7. We have all been in your position. ALL we are saying is that Buying a car now will TIE YOU DOWN!!!!

For example you made the statement that you can live on 50 bucks a month. Thats fine and dandy now But think about when you are a bit older?? In adition please understand that living paycheck to paycheck is NOT an ideal situation.

[theoneriggs]

Bottom line you want to get a camaro so I say get a camaro. Only problem I have is with your pops being a putz saying "v8" or bust. a v6 with 304 hp is pretty sick. his 4th gen firebird v8 had only a little bit more than that. (stock vs stock). You seem like a kid thats got his numbers in order. The biggest thing is, doing the numbers on paper and then actually having to live with those numbers is 2 different things. All these old fogies on here have made the same mistakes. Which is why they are all about trying to stop you from making them too. However I say....live and learn.

V6 is what fits your budget best. You can get it exactly how you want it and have a little money left over to spare monthly. Be diligent with your spending, try to keep a little in savings. Enjoy the new car and be safe!

[Brandons714]

Thanks for all of the input.
The thing that stands out to me is "All these old fogies on here have made the same mistakes." And, you just gotta remember to when you were a kid, your parents probably told you the same thing, but you did it anyways, Everyone will do something stupid that they will learn from when they are older, and you gotta remember, I'm young, and I'm naive, meaning, I don't want to hear the things like I can't afford it, and stuff, I'm making the decision either way, I just want to know, if my dad is right about the v6 being worthless, or if it's better for me.

The One Riggs, Thank you for your answer.

Tangorovor, Also, thank you, I understand what you're saying, but, I'm going to make that one life changing mistanke while I'm young, I have the needed support, and if worst comes to worst, I can loan the car to my dad like I said.

Ronn, I'm not sure, I'll have to go in and check, but, like I said to the others, Thank you, Any opinion, weather I agree or not is helpful.
So, to everyone that's posted, Thank you, You've all helped me make up my mind, "Even those of you that just said 'Don't do it'"
I'm getting the V6, I took in consideration of what everyone said, the ones that said don't get one period, I took that and respected it and looked at the numbers, adn you're right, I don't want o live on $50 a month, But, $500 is fine for me. those of you that said go for the v6, you're right, It's not my dads car, It's mine, I don't need 400 HP, 304 (Soon to be 315) is plenty.

I'll be ordering a 2LT/RS Fully Loaded as soon as I get the Down Payment.

[jagan323]

lol a 18 year old buying a brand new camaro at your current income. Dude, sorry to burst your bubble, you may as well NOT have come to the forums and showed off your geting a camaro at 18. I make $4500 a month, and im 23... I only got the Camaro 1LT. I already sweat bullets, worried about how much im paying for the car. I put in $11000 downpay. I'm also paying 1300 a month for rent, and 1000 bucks for a mortgage. If you are paying on a 72 Month Finance.. think about it... That is 6 years... you'd be 24... unless you get a WAY higher paying job during your lifespan of your Finance, you have LOTS of stuff to save up for man. Just telling you, listen to the guys on the forums... but obviously, I have a feeling you'll get it anyways lol. Goodluck. =p

[navmaxlp]

Dude, all these people here are telling you to not get it based on their life decisions. While, for my life, I wouldn't get it if I were you, you gotta make this decision to get it or not get it on your own. It really doesn't matter because it seems like you've already made it. That said, given the choice of V6 or V8, I'd say get the 6. It's way more affordable and you still get the looks and muscle of a camaro. I'd say even go LS. Looks great and is a lot cheaper. Even a 1LT with no options would be ok. I'd say keep it as far from 30k as you can.

My $.02

[caverman]

My personal take would be for you to wait just a little bit longer and look for a used one. Right now the resale value is still pretty high but as soon as the 2011 start coming out the 2010 will be had at a much better deal. We are not far from the 2011....after all the 2011 production starts in like 2 mths. When the convertibles are released then you'll probably find deals left and right. I know a good handfull of people waiting for the convertible and then plan on selling their hardtop. I know it's hard to wait. I had to wait almost a year doing everything I could to get my Yukon paid off in order to buy my Camaro. Hell....I had a deposit on the car for 5 long months.

V8 vs V6.....tuff one. I will say that there is a lot of power to get yourself in trouble with SS. Also, the V6 is not the same V6 that everyone thinks of when you say you have a V6. I would almost say that you should eventually try to drive both with an open mind. Nothing wrong with the V6 at all especially when you look at the gas mileage, 87 octane, etc. they really are a good deal. Then again I was driving at 15 and 3 mths before I turned 16 I bought my '69 Convt you see in my avitar. Most people (including myself) will crindge thinking of a 16 yr old having a '69 SS Convertible....but I did and everything worked out in the end. Yes, I did stupid stuff like street racing back in the day but I never wrecked it and I worked as an assitant verternarian and dumped 85% of what I made into that car. However the difference was that by the time I went to college I had everything paid off and wasn't in debt.

Addressing the fact that you can't find a White Camaro with your paticular stripes....man you're going to have to be more open minded than that. You can add stripes for a few hundered. Don't let something like that deter you. You should also find a second or third color you could be happy with like say SIM. Again, that will help you in finding a used Camaro.

So I'm kind of on both sides of the fence. I totally understand wanting one at a young age and you should probably look at getting one. However, be a little more open minded so that you won't completely screw up your finances like a lot of younger people do when the buy without thinking everything through. Six years is a long time. Look back at where you were at the age of 12. Look at all the changes in your life in that timeframe. You'll have that and more between now and 24. You could be married with a kid or two by then. The Camaro will be nothing when you need to buy a house and put food on the table for more than just yourself.

BTW: I'm going to have to strongly agree with you on the only 1st Gen, 2nd Gen, or 5 Gen for me as well.

[phenixdragon]

Originally Posted by Jeanius

Get a 98-02 SS or WS6, Those cars still got ALOT of balls

Have you seen them? So fugly.

I saw get what ever you feel you want. I know when I went into the dealer they wanted to give me less then what I expected on my trade in for a 2SS priced at 37K with the options. I told them there was no way possible I can do it for that. They suggested a V6 and I told them no way. I'm here only for a V8. I personally would not be happy settling for the V6. Nothing against them, but for me, a V6 would be settling.

So my opinion is, just don't settle. If you can't be happy with a V6, or you will regret not getting a V8, then don't get a V6. Wait and get it. Same with the color. Get the color you want, don't settle for 2nd or 3rd.

And don't worry about people saying not to get a 6 year loan. I got a 6 year loan. Why? Well I wanted smaller payments for the first year. I have the lowest rate possible through my bank so the interest is almost nothing. I will have this thing paid off within 3 years, just this first year I am looking to buy my first home and have some other debts I will pay off by the end of this year. Just don't be stupid and get a 6 year loan and pay the minimum payments.

[Brandons714]

Originally Posted by caverman

My personal take would be for you to wait just a little bit longer and look for a used one. Right now the resale value is still pretty high but as soon as the 2011 start coming out the 2010 will be had at a much better deal. We are not far from the 2011....after all the 2011 production starts in like 2 mths. When the convertibles are released then you'll probably find deals left and right. I know a good handfull of people waiting for the convertible and then plan on selling their hardtop. I know it's hard to wait. I had to wait almost a year doing everything I could to get my Yukon paid off in order to buy my Camaro. Hell....I had a deposit on the car for 5 long months.

V8 vs V6.....tuff one. I will say that there is a lot of power to get yourself in trouble with SS. Also, the V6 is not the same V6 that everyone thinks of when you say you have a V6. I would almost say that you should eventually try to drive both with an open mind. Nothing wrong with the V6 at all especially when you look at the gas mileage, 87 octane, etc. they really are a good deal. Then again I was driving at 15 and 3 mths before I turned 16 I bought my '69 Convt you see in my avitar. Most people (including myself) will crindge thinking of a 16 yr old having a '69 SS Convertible....but I did and everything worked out in the end. Yes, I did stupid stuff like street racing back in the day but I never wrecked it and I worked as an assitant verternarian and dumped 85% of what I made into that car. However the difference was that by the time I went to college I had everything paid off and wasn't in debt.

Addressing the fact that you can't find a White Camaro with your paticular stripes....man you're going to have to be more open minded than that. You can add stripes for a few hundered. Don't let something like that deter you. You should also find a second or third color you could be happy with like say SIM. Again, that will help you in finding a used Camaro.

So I'm kind of on both sides of the fence. I totally understand wanting one at a young age and you should probably look at getting one. However, be a little more open minded so that you won't completely screw up your finances like a lot of younger people do when the buy without thinking everything through. Six years is a long time. Look back at where you were at the age of 12. Look at all the changes in your life in that timeframe. You'll have that and more between now and 24. You could be married with a kid or two by then. The Camaro will be nothing when you need to buy a house and put food on the table for more than just yourself.

BTW: I'm going to have to strongly agree with you on the only 1st Gen, 2nd Gen, or 5 Gen for me as well.

To be honest, that was probably exactly what I needed to hear, Haha, I just just thinking today about just getting a used White one with no strips or anything, and just adding them on as I go to save me money. I still want the 2LT/RS because, there's things in that that you can't get from the 1LT that I'd pay the extra for expecially living in Utah (Heated Seats) and loving music (Boston Acoustics® premium nine-speaker sound system)

Now... I'm looking at the Synergy Green Special Edition... and... What's the catch? Fully loaded "Sunroof, Car Cover, Engine Block Heater, Boston Acoustics premium Sound, Remote Start and all that fun stuff, is only $28,000 but, a fully loaded non special edition is $32k.

[phenixdragon]

Originally Posted by caverman

My personal take would be for you to wait just a little bit longer and look for a used one. Right now the resale value is still pretty high but as soon as the 2011 start coming out the 2010 will be had at a much better deal. We are not far from the 2011....after all the 2011 production starts in like 2 mths. When the convertibles are released then you'll probably find deals left and right. I know a good handfull of people waiting for the convertible and then plan on selling their hardtop. I know it's hard to wait. I had to wait almost a year doing everything I could to get my Yukon paid off in order to buy my Camaro. Hell....I had a deposit on the car for 5 long months.

V8 vs V6.....tuff one. I will say that there is a lot of power to get yourself in trouble with SS. Also, the V6 is not the same V6 that everyone thinks of when you say you have a V6. I would almost say that you should eventually try to drive both with an open mind. Nothing wrong with the V6 at all especially when you look at the gas mileage, 87 octane, etc. they really are a good deal. Then again I was driving at 15 and 3 mths before I turned 16 I bought my '69 Convt you see in my avitar. Most people (including myself) will crindge thinking of a 16 yr old having a '69 SS Convertible....but I did and everything worked out in the end. Yes, I did stupid stuff like street racing back in the day but I never wrecked it and I worked as an assitant verternarian and dumped 85% of what I made into that car. However the difference was that by the time I went to college I had everything paid off and wasn't in debt.

Addressing the fact that you can't find a White Camaro with your paticular stripes....man you're going to have to be more open minded than that. You can add stripes for a few hundered. Don't let something like that deter you. You should also find a second or third color you could be happy with like say SIM. Again, that will help you in finding a used Camaro.

So I'm kind of on both sides of the fence. I totally understand wanting one at a young age and you should probably look at getting one. However, be a little more open minded so that you won't completely screw up your finances like a lot of younger people do when the buy without thinking everything through. Six years is a long time. Look back at where you were at the age of 12. Look at all the changes in your life in that timeframe. You'll have that and more between now and 24. You could be married with a kid or two by then. The Camaro will be nothing when you need to buy a house and put food on the table for more than just yourself.

BTW: I'm going to have to strongly agree with you on the only 1st Gen, 2nd Gen, or 5 Gen for me as well.

I 2nd about the resale value. The dealer I bought mine from sells used ones for the same or more then you can work a deal on a brand new one.

[balthazar]

You want a V6, buy a V6, no, in the future it wont be as cool to say "this was my first car".

But the smarter choice is the V6, while there is no real way you are going to spend $15,000 a month more on an SS (unless you compare a LS to a fairly loaded 2SS), it IS still more. And yes insurance is more. But more importantly, and don't take this lightly. It is a LOT of power to handle.

I know, I know, we are all good drivers. And I'm not saying you aren't, or that you don't take it seriously. I'm just saying...it's a handful.

Just explain to your dad that over 400hp is a lot and for your first car, you want to play it safe. Surely he cares more about your safety than the ideal.