the actual production model will vary !?

[nUcLeArEnVoY]

Umm, won't the aftermarket produce stripes that offer full coverage to the nose? I don't see the point in compromising your interest in the car for something that god knows the aftermarket will whip right up a month or so into the car's inauguration.

[fbodfather]

Originally Posted by 70 COPO

An extra 5 inches of stripe added to the rear of each stripe by the supplier so the stripe can be placed lower on the car- is not going to kill GM or the supplier.

no -- but it MAY kill us trying to get the fascia stripe on around the air intake on an SS...........

Remember- it has to be exact........

Good example: The 35th LE has a black hood insert -- as I recall, the scrap rate was over 35%.......it had to be exactly in the middle with a perfect border............not easy to do.

Stripes will end on the hood, not the fascia --

That said, I can think of many dealers that can paint stripes on for you.......

[StuMac]

Originally Posted by 70 COPO

NVMY 68SS

You may not know this - but Part of the Camaro brand team is currently in vegas as part of the SEMA set up. They are due back on Wednesday in the AM.

I find the remainder orf your post to be kind of presumptive in tone since you do no know me or why I am ordering this specific car.

At any rate I will cancel the order quickly if the third generation style hood stripes make it to production. They are not my style and last time I checked the $40K was mine to spend as I wanted. If I am paying that kind of money I need to be happy with what I am getting, and nothing short of a true pedigree car will do for me. That is my business none of yours. OK?

Dragoneye: Lets wait to see what Scott has to say.

God I hope they don't gamble away some of the features.

[nester7929]

The "variations" will be good things. Like better gas mileage and a more tuned exhaust note. GM's still trying to squeeze every little thing out of this car that they can.

[nester7929]

Originally Posted by 70 COPO

NVMY 68SS


At any rate I will cancel the order quickly if the third generation style hood stripes make it to production. They are not my style and last time I checked the $40K was mine to spend as I wanted. If I am paying that kind of money I need to be happy with what I am getting, and nothing short of a true pedigree car will do for me.

Cancel the stripes or the entire car?

If you want to cancel the whole thing, then don't order a Camaro with stripes, take the money you saved, and get it striped yourself.

[Evotion]

Originally Posted by fbodfather

no -- but it MAY kill us trying to get the fascia stripe on around the air intake on an SS...........

Remember- it has to be exact........

Good example: The 35th LE has a black hood insert -- as I recall, the scrap rate was over 35%.......it had to be exactly in the middle with a perfect border............not easy to do.

Stripes will end on the hood, not the fascia --

That said, I can think of many dealers that can paint stripes on for you.......

I'd say that's a definitive answer.

Thats one less person getting their Camaro before me

[TAG UR IT]

Looks like the answer has been given.

Now...let's see if that order is cancelled...because the stripes (WHICH CAN BE MADE LATER BY AFTERMARKET OR PAINTED ON!!!!!) don't extend down far enough. My goodness....40k? If you are planning on spending 40k, you can afford aftermarket....or paint....if it is that important to you....

[Supermans]

Originally Posted by CamaroSpike23

the actual camaro is going to look like this

I wouldn't mind it changing if it looked as awesome as this. If it is good enough for Homer, it is good enough for me..Doh!!

[RallyFever]

Sappy statement by the originator, but good gouge from fbodfather.
I'll be cancelling my stripe option and getting them painted.
Thanks for the info.

[70 COPO]

I will be cancelling the car. It was to be an SS top of the line and a very special car. The "book end" to one of the the cars that I own that is currently on the cover of the book "Camaro 40 years". I have restored some of the greatest cars on the planet including '69 ZL-1, SYC 427 camaros many of these cars making features many major automotive publications.

Apperently a slightly longer stripe can not be offered even for dealer installation despite the option of a wing spoiler - and a ground effects kit -all of which make putting a longer decal stripe on "kids play" by comparison.

Guess that is it. Money stays in the bank. Thanks for clearing that up Scott.

[Supermans]

Originally Posted by 70 COPO

I will be cancelling the car. It was to be an SS top of the line and a very special car. The "book end" to one of the the cars that I own that is currently on the cover of the book "Camaro 40 years". I have restored some of the greatest cars on the planet including '69 ZL-1, SYC 427 camaros many of these cars making features many major automotive publications.

Apperently a slightly longer stripe can not be offered even for dealer installation despite the option of a wing spoiler - and a ground effects kit -all of which make putting a longer decal stripe on "kids play" by comparison.

Guess that is it. Money stays in the bank. Thanks for clearing that up Scott.

Well, for someone that has a classic Camaro on the cover of a book, I would have thought you would settle for nothing less than painted stripes anyways..

[rayhawk]

Originally Posted by 70 COPO

I will be cancelling the car. It was to be an SS top of the line and a very special car. The "book end" to one of the the cars that I own that is currently on the cover of the book "Camaro 40 years". I have restored some of the greatest cars on the planet including '69 ZL-1, SYC 427 camaros many of these cars making features many major automotive publications.

Apperently a slightly longer stripe can not be offered even for dealer installation despite the option of a wing spoiler - and a ground effects kit -all of which make putting a longer decal stripe on "kids play" by comparison.

Guess that is it. Money stays in the bank. Thanks for clearing that up Scott.

Kind of strange...I mean, if your goal is really all about getting the car from the factory in a particular way, why do you want to be the only one to have a custom stripe package? I mean, not everybody thinks it looks bad the way it is, and if it helps reduce overall costs and keep the car less expensive, isn't that better for all of us?

And by the way, did you mistake the Camaro for a hand built special order car in which you can demand every option exactly to your specifications? If you don't like what they have built then continue with your classic cars. But to pretend that they are going to change the package just to satisfy you is sort of ridiculous. If you don't want the car, then don't buy it. You act like you were doing somebody a favor by buying this car.

[70 COPO]

Originally Posted by rayhawk

Kind of strange...I mean, if your goal is really all about getting the car from the factory in a particular way, why do you want to be the only one to have a custom stripe package? I mean, not everybody thinks it looks bad the way it is, and if it helps reduce overall costs and keep the car less expensive, isn't that better for all of us?.

Not at all. Concept was agressively marketed to the public is a particular manner. The public was introduced to a Camaro with stripes again in a paticular manner. Finally GM's own marketing slides from just one month ago clearly show long stripes. This is the way GM has portrayed the car to prospective buyers.

Originally Posted by rayhawk

And by the way, did you mistake the Camaro for a hand built special order car in which you can demand every option exactly to your specifications? If you don't like what they have built then continue with your classic cars. But to pretend that they are going to change the package just to satisfy you is sort of ridiculous. If you don't want the car, then don't buy it. You act like you were doing somebody a favor by buying this car.

No not at all. I simply expected to be able to order what GM had introduced to the public over the past full two years. I have voiced my opinion and have not asking GM to do anything but explain "why" - just looking for clairification on what I and others are buying from a cosmetic standpoint.

It is quite clear there is dissent on the issue of stripes in general that extends well beyond my particular issue.

It is clear to me (and should be to the others as well) that GM must be really in a hard place on production issues and cost as of now.

As Scott related pertaining to the '02 car and the 35% scrappage rate for that stripe pertaining to fitment - all for a car that was already cancelled (and dead) yet somehow GM tolerated the issue and managed through it for the purist who wanted this car with that particular stripe package.

It is sad that the same tolerance by GM is not extended today especially to those who can afford to pay for the option. As for me I have Zero options for factory installed or official approved GM official accessory stripes "long style".

Outside of sending the new car off to a body shop and having the stripes added "aftermarket style" I am out of luck - so no car for me.


BTW I am counting the number of personal style attacks that I am getting on simply voicing my opinion on this topic and BTW I simply do not why that is being tolerated by the moderators either so I guess I will continue to turn the other cheek....

[UCF w00t]

Wow... I always thought the sticker-style stripes were sort of mocked among enthusiasts. Isn't painting them on the real way it's supposed to be done? I'm just amazed one would cancel a car order because you can't get the stickers you want from the factory. It really sounds like you didn't want the car anyways and just found an excuse to convince yourself not to get the car and now you're just trying to pout and bring attention to yourself. Not a personal attack, just an observation I've made from your posts on this thread.

And just curious... why are you "out of luck" in regards to painting stripes on? Are there no body shops that can paint stripes near you?