The 2011+ Mustang Thread

[ULTRAZLS1]

It is also funny a lot of guys touting this new mustang and its times that fail to look at the big picture.

This is a performance shop backed by Ford with limitless money, track time, driving experience, knowledge on drag racing/car set-up, no care for the well being of the car (beat the piss out of it), great track and conditions/prep just for them ETC. you name it.

VS.

What a couple average joes have done on camaro5 with their own personal cars.

Just taking an unbiased look at the situation...I have never said the mustang doesnt rip...in fact I have given it props more times than I can count. But you have to be realistic when given this type of information. Not saying private owners cant do this. But the # of camaros and mustangs running this type of set-up is small. All we know is that it still looks close like it always has been....and I dont doubt will stay that way for the most part mod for mod.

[Sleestack]

Originally Posted by ULTRAZLS1

It is also funny a lot of guys touting this new mustang and its times that fail to look at the big picture.

This is a performance shop backed by Ford with limitless money, track time, driving experience, knowledge on drag racing/car set-up, no care for the well being of the car (beat the piss out of it), great track and conditions/prep just for them ETC. you name it.
VS.
What a couple average joes have done on camaro5 with their own personal cars.
Just taking an unbiased look at the situation...I have never said the mustang doesnt rip...in fact I have given it props more times than I can count. But you have to be realistic...

Lot of hair-splitting happening in both camps, meaning the cars are likely closer than either care to admit (stock for stock, or mod for mod). Carry on.....

[VetteMaro]

Originally Posted by ULTRAZLS1

Are you kidding me? Maybe if they are using street tires and spinning down the track. I see some ~125 mph supercharged cars on the tiny list on this site. I see some 120+ mph cam only on this little list. I see 116 mph bolt ons.

You do know a bolt on only member of this site has gone 11.7 right?

This car is on bogarts with suspension mods and ripping 1.6 60ft's with 405 rwhp and 3600lbs. What did you expect? Nothing new. Welcome to the world of cam only ls1 f-bodys est.1998

Come on ultra, it's obvious that "evil twin" is trying to get on the nerves of the camaro5 members...

I have ALOT of respect for the 5.0, but to expect a basic bolton 5.0 can keep up with a supercharged LS3 is just plain rediculous. I really think that it's a drivers race between a bolton 5.0 vs a bolton SS

[BackinBlackSS/RS]

Originally Posted by VetteMaro

Come on ultra, it's obvious that "evil twin" is trying to get on the nerves of the camaro5 members...
:

NO, he wouldn't do that.

[ULTRAZLS1]

Originally Posted by brandotron

Bear in mind that those numbers come from a Camaro with Summer tires and a Mustang with all seasons.

In the car and driver test the mustang had the summer tires and 3.73 gears.

It would help if you read the article.

The edmunds comparison the mustang had all seasons.

It does make a difference.

I honestly think the optioned GT has a slight edge on the camaro SS up to the 1320. The camaro will pull the mustang after that no doubt. The only 0-130 test we have shows almost a 2 second difference. I dont think any test could be that far off...

[BlackieRay]

Originally Posted by assasinator

yeah leaving out that the 99-01 you are talking about had every bolt-on. and a lot of those have PSR intakes.

How do you know it had every bolt on? Even if it did, so what? Intake, exhaust, tune and gears is no big deal. Btw, what makes you so sure the VTec stang didn't have more done to it? Wouldn't be the first time one of these tuners wasn't telling about all the mods they did to get business.

Quit pretending the 2011 is something it isn't.

[Unfair]

Originally Posted by BlackieRay

How do you know it had every bolt on? Even if it did, so what? Intake, exhaust, tune and gears is no big deal. Btw, what makes you so sure the VTec stang didn't have more done to it? Wouldn't be the first time one of these tuners wasn't telling about all the mods they did to get business.

Quit pretending the 2011 is something it isn't.

You don't know the difference between vtec and vvt do you lol
You must be anti-technology.

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[MileMAN402]

and now id have money left over and be about a 1/4 second off the gt500

[Captain Awesome]

Originally Posted by Unfair

You know what I mean lol, You clamp on a muffler and turn the NUT to secure it right? but you still call it a bolt on? nice try professor awesome

bolt on's
screw on's
glue on's
clamp on's
zip tie on's

Well, you knew what I meant too. The discussion was about how the engine was maxxed out and bolt ons wouldn't help it much. People were citing a car with suspension mods and drag radials as "proof" the engine was not maxxed out.

[ULTRAZLS1]

Of coarse the car is going to get good gains getting away from the factory tune and opening up the exhaust. You would have to be an idiot to think the car wouldnt get good gains from this.

The true test will be to see what kind of numbers the 5.0 is capable of with a street-able pump gas NA h/c set up. If it can get to about ~470rwhp it will be right with the H/C LS3 camaro (~490rwhp). If it stops around 450 we will still have a slight advantage.

But either way...like has been said many times before. The cars are truly a good match for one another.

[assasinator]

no comment

[lp454]

driver, tough call

[Krazy and old]

um...11.82

[Sax1031]

Video of the 11.82 run




Edit: actually a video of more than just the 11.82 pass.