The 2011+ Mustang Thread

[antimatr]

Originally Posted by Stew

Car and Drivers premium GT with Brembos weighed in at 3580 accrding to them, in any case 3700 pounds is a huge stretch.

The GT C&D tested was a base GT.

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/..._gt_5.0_page_3

[Sax1031]

I would say the 5.0 badges would be a dead giveaway. Although if it is a California Edition then it will not have the 5.0 badges.

[ClaymoreZ28]

Given that I dont drag race and I dont race on the streets there is so little difference that in real world that this comes down to which car "feels" right and which we prefer the look of

I am sure that we will have lots of folks having fun debating differences in times / max speeds etc. Reality is simply that Ford is back in business again with a viable competitor to the Camaro.... just a pity that it has a face like a squished catfish as my daughter said (I know some folks will love it - and each to their own - and ultimately that is what I think much of this will come down to)

[REEFBLUE93]

Originally Posted by SSRS Steve

I think performance is dead even stock vs. stock but Ford dropped the ball why not a 5.4 ltr??

That's what they put in the GT500, with a blower strapped to it. What would happen if Ford put the same motor in their base GT and sold it for thousands less? People would buy that car and strap a blower to it and be running right with the higher end GT500. Same reason the TBird Super Coupe didn't stick around for very long, they were running with and sometimes beating the Mustangs and that made some people angry.

[SIXJAK]

Ford has answered the call quite effectively. The new V8 and V6 are great motors. Ford's new V6 is quite the burner and sounds very nice. The companies approaches are just different. I'm sure Chevy will answer back in short order.

What's cool is both companies has given the V6 enthusiasts solid platforms to work from. With a few simple tweaks to the intake, exhaust etc, the V6 Camaro is right there with the V6 Stang.

I prefer Chevy's approach at the moment as I think the Camaro is a much better looking car and has a better chassis from which to work from. I do not mind the low roof at all. I'm 5'10" so it's not an issue for me. I've never owned a car that has had so many people from so many different walks of life approach me asking permission to have their picture taken with it.

I know Ford has done a commendable job of taming their LSA and keeping the weight down and the sequential tailights are sick but the front end to me is a great example of redesign for re design's sake. It just doesn't look that great nor do I car for the smoother fender flares. Fail.

I showed up at a Corvette rally last Saturday to meet some friends and my V6 Camaro drew more attention any of the Vettes. It's a gorgeous car.

[5thGenOwner]

Originally Posted by SGOS252382

Bone stock
1. nhra stocker - 12.58 @ 110.30 mph, (LS3, M6)
2. 2quick - 12.61 @ 111.60 mph, (LS3, M6)

Lightly tuned (as you call it)
1. Walkermuffler - 11.71 @ 114.07 mph, (LT, CAI, Tune, 17'' wheels, Skinnies, Drag Radials, (LS3, M6)
2. OrangeChevy - 11.83 @ 116 mph, (LT, Exhaust, CAI, Tune, 18'' wheels, Skinnies, Drag Radials), (LS3, M6)

Originally Posted by Captain Awesome

Best post of this entire thread.

(drivers race!)

Originally Posted by Eagleone

Hold on..... *checking home page*

Yep, i joined a camaro site. Whew.

Mustangs =

Ha, ha! They actually need 'levels' of emoticons barfing, maybe a 1-5 level (i.e. 5 barfing emoticons = smart car). Because the Mustang is still better looking than most of the stuff out there in it's price range.

Fortunately, you need NO emoticons barfing when speaking of the Camaro, just a lot of , , and !

[8cd03gro]

Originally Posted by Chief Blackhawk

LOL I love comments like these. You probably drive a beat up old 3 series and a sonota and are jealous of Camaros.

Well, he might not be wrong. The 2010 was known to handle better than the camaro and the 2011 handles better, stops faster and has way more power than the 2010. Of course, we won't know until it's tested, but it's definitely safe to say that the 5.0 theoretically should be faster around a road course. Who cares though? Probably 95% of the people on this forum wouldn't be able to run even remotely consistent times on your average road course. The road course is ALWAYS a drivers race if the cars are even somewhat close.

[Dakota Kid]

I am an SS owner, but based on everything I have read, the 5.0 will be abetter handler and faster on a road course.

Does not make me love the SS any less.

It is all good.

[Sax1031]

I think the 5.0 will have the edge on a road course against a SS but not by much.

[BackinBlackSS/RS]

Originally Posted by Kurt_OH

Put 'em on a road course, and it's over: the Mustang will CRUSH the SS and leave it for dead. The whole weight/handling issue will render it a non-competition.

Sadly.

SS is in dire need of a track pack.

Ask JusticePete from Pedders how the Stock SS handles. Or better yet you can read for yourself. From JusticePete who knows a little something about handling.

"One more time -- The 5th Gen is a well engineered automobile and in complete OE trim is a terrific performance car that does not NEED a chassis brace or any other aftermarket products to be a world class performance car. GM and Chevy have already proved that at the Ring. Period. End of story."

I don't know what kinda times the 2011 Mustang will have, but let's stop the talk about the SS handling. It is clearly a well handling car. Can it be better, of course, but it's damn good right out of the box. Oh, and to say it will crush the SS is just ridiculous.

[THE EVIL TW1N]

Originally Posted by BackinBlackSS/RS

...
"One more time -- The 5th Gen is a well engineered automobile and in complete OE trim is a terrific performance car that does not NEED a chassis brace or any other aftermarket products to be a world class performance car. GM and Chevy have already proved that at the Ring. Period. End of story."
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didnt the Cobalt run the ring faster than the 2010 Camaro?

[THE EVIL TW1N]

Originally Posted by Chief Blackhawk

No, but how trollish of you to imply that.

how is that trollish, the Cobalt is a very well rounded car, which is why the Camaro only beat it by 2 seconds. 8:20 vs 8:22 (i just looked it up)

[assasinator]

nurnburgring:


2010 camaro SS ...8:20
porsche cayman S 8:25
audi S5............... 8:26
bmw 335ie92.........8:26
2009 bmw E92..............8:05
honda S2000........8:39
chevrolet cobalt....9:02.........since it was mentioned
chevrolet cobalt SS/TC.8:22


2 seconds a lap after 30 laps is a minute behind. a minute is a lot. how much heat will the cobalt have then?

im not trying to pick sides but in testing the mustang, in some configuration, was as quick or slightly quicker than an E92 M3. now it could have been a ringer car like the one that put down 395rwhp.

[Georgie]

8:20 for the SS

not bad

oh yeah, don't hate on the cobalt guys. its a great little car.