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2SSRSB · 05-26-2010, 12:16 AM

The OP is trying to justify their lack of concern or consideration for others.

Ronn · 05-26-2010, 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by StuntmanMike

Wow. What you quoted says a speeding ticket for within 10 MPH shouldn't be more than 25 dollars? I know MANY courts in violation of that one. I've seen speeding tickets like that cost will over $100. Guess even those in charge of applying the law can't be bothered to follow it. So sad.

There's the set fine and then surcharges.

StuntmanMike · 05-26-2010, 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Ronn

There's the set fine and then surcharges.

Surcharges? What surcharges? I believe that's called double-jeopardy, unless you're talking about court fees, which I am not. I've seen fines for 10 MPH over being at least $150 -- for just the "fine." No 'surcharges' included.

Ronn · 05-26-2010, 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by StuntmanMike

Surcharges? What surcharges? I believe that's called double-jeopardy, unless you're talking about court fees, which I am not. I've seen fines for 10 MPH over being at least $150 -- for just the "fine." No 'surcharges' included.

Yes that's what I'm talking about... I got a ticket a while back and the set fine was like 30 dollars but I had to pay like 50.

StuntmanMike · 05-26-2010, 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Ronn

Yes that's what I'm talking about... I got a ticket a while back and the set fine was like 30 dollars but I had to pay like 50.

I'm talking just the fine itself, without court fees added in.

brtaus · 05-26-2010, 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by bigearl

This video is full of crap. He is speaking as if this is civil case law. But speeding tickets aren't civil- they are criminal. It's an infraction (or misdemeanor) depending on severity. He has NO idea what he's talking about at all. The speed limit ordinances have been passed by the legislature so unless he can get the supreme court to hear a case where he says the state has no right to pass a speed limit law, then the speed limit is the law of the land.

This is the same mumbo jumbo that 'constitutionalists' use to declare themselves an independent country outside the jurisdiction of the US even though they are living in the Montana mountains, or the pot-growers use to say the US has no legal right to tell them that pot is illegal.

(edit: I see a litigator posted above while I was typing this, I'd like to hear more details).

Wrong; they are civil until you reach a certain threshold, then they become criminal (in AZ anyway).

ViperTomcat · 05-26-2010, 12:45 AM

God this is a stupid thread.

If you exceed the posted speed limit, you are in violation of traffic regulations for that section of road, and thus are committing a moving violation of the criminal justice code.

That makes speeding illegal.

StuntmanMike · 05-26-2010, 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by ViperTomcat

God this is a stupid thread.

If you exceed the posted speed limit, you are in violation of traffic regulations for that section of road, and thus are committing a moving violation of the criminal justice code.

That makes speeding illegal.

This really depends on the state and your lawyer's skill in the courtroom. I have a lawyer here who has, on at least 2 occasions, gotten a jury to acquit on a speeding offense due to the wording in the actual speed laws. I don't understand fully how he did it, but he did it. Luckily with me he hasn't had to take a ticket all the way to a jury trial yet.

kevin1 · 05-26-2010, 05:16 AM

Speeding tickets are just a way to generate revenue, and the easiest to issue. All other violations would require someone to be alert and know the laws that they enforce.

SNV · 05-26-2010, 05:24 AM

I'm guessing the OP got himself a nice speeding ticket haha.

djsnoflake · 05-26-2010, 05:25 AM

I feel like I lost brain cells reading 3 pages of this.

To the OP, go ahead and use YouTube as your legal defense and see where it gets you.

If anyone thinks this will work, I know an African Prince that wants to give me some money, but he can't get at it cause he needs to pay some bank fees. Hit me up if you want to get rich.

Camaro_hx · 05-26-2010, 06:06 AM

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Originally Posted by 40years

Good luck getting away with that one!

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tradosaurus · 05-26-2010, 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by BackinBlackSS/RS

Yeah, kinda of like the people who say the IRS cannot make you pay taxes. Yeah, whatever.

No, it's people who rightfully believe that the personal income tax is illegal but think that the IRS cannot use any means necessary to steal your money.

tradosaurus · 05-26-2010, 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by el ess X

Directly from SC statutes concerning speeding. I'm not a lawyer or even play one on TV, but I can read and what I read says violating posted speed limits. That guy may not think he's violating the law when speeding, but if he speeds through South Carolina, it's against the law in these parts.

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