Camaro VS Mustang Mega Thread

[All-Or-Nothing]

Originally Posted by Silver Ice

The whole article is a joke.

[Americanmuscle11]

Originally Posted by klapper

It's a mistake to think in all cases overhead cams trump pushrods. Engineering is definitely not about the applying the latest technology, but what the end result is. In this case I suspect the LS3 is a lighter, smaller, cheaper to build, more fuel efficient engine than the Ford, with more area under the torque curve. That's despite the Fords application of DOHC, and independent VVT for intake and exhaust.

Take note that in the Motortrend pony car test the Mustang 5.0 got worse mileage than either the SRT8 or SS Camaro. Why do you think that might be? My guess is that the 5.0 Ford has to be revved higher to make it's power, and internal friction increases as the square of rpm.

Here's a final point to contemplate. The 2011 Mustang would weigh no more with an LS3 under the hood but would have a fatter torque curve. The result would be that a 2011 LS3 powered Mustang would beat both a 2011 5.0 Mustang and an SS Camaro in the 1/4 mile.

In 15 years when the hotrodders buy Mustangs with used up 5.0s and yank them for cheaper LS3s to go bracket racing we'll find out.

You make some fair points. Now imagine if GM just built a lighter 5th Gen Camaro from the start. One thing though if the world is going to end in 2012 how are we ever going to find out the results of this bracket racing deal?

[dshep214]

I have a 2011 stock camaro ss and I have a few buddies that have 03 and 04 cobra's. And i was just simply wondering stock vs stock who would win off the line and from rolling start. Now let me just say that i love all muscle cars and i respect that 4.6 DOHC supercharged engine very much im just curious!!!! Now remember this is stock on stock no mods on either. And lets say both drivers are equal lets keep this simple. Thanks guys i know i will get good feedback!!!

[LEADfoot927]

L99 (400 hp) curb weight = 3910 lbs. Power to weight ratio = 9.77 lb/hp
03/04 Cobra (390 HP) curb weight = 3665 lbs. Power to weight ratio = 9.39 lb/hp
LS3 (426 HP) curb weight = 3888 lbs. Power to weight ratio = 9.12 lb/hp

LS3 has a slight advantange stock to stock

[dshep214]

Thanks for the comparision see i only have 700 miles on my ss so i have some breaking in to do lol. I just wanted to hear some opinions on what might happen. Side not i absoultly love these cars but that z28 looks amazing might have to upgrade next year lol

[8cd03gro]

The 03-04 cobras were underrated a decent amount. They generally make around 370rwhp or so, just about what an SS makes. From a dig or a roll he is going to have a slight advantage, but it is small enough that the driver could make the difference.

[2010 SSRS]

video tape the race at the track.

[Ash1977]

Cobras are faster. Even other Chevy people agree.

http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/dyno-b...camaro-ss.html

Both are great cars.


Mark

[SummitWhiteLS]

Originally Posted by Ash1977

Cobras are faster. Even other Chevy people agree.

http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/dyno-b...camaro-ss.html

Both are great cars.

Mark

Apparently you didn't read ALL of the posts, because they don't agree.

Many said it would be a draw ... a driver's race.

Car and Driver tested several 03-04 Cobra's, all of which turned a 12.9@111mph. Guess what Car and Driver got with the new Camaro SS?

13.0@111mph

Yup. A driver's race ...

[2010 SSRS]

Camaro's are faster

[Ash1977]

Originally Posted by SummitWhiteLS

Apparently you didn't read ALL of the posts, because they don't agree.

Many said it would be a draw ... a driver's race.

Car and Driver tested several 03-04 Cobra's, all of which turned a 12.9@111mph. Guess what Car and Driver got with the new Camaro SS?

13.0@111mph

Yup. A driver's race ...

I guess you didn't see the poll at the top of the tread.
30-9 for the Cobra.
It can be a drivers race but on equal conditions and drivers, the Cobra is faster.

Mark

[ColdCamaroSS]

Sorry OP but I don't have stock to stock data, but it would be a close race. A friend of mine has a ported and pullied Terminator, and I get him by a car in the quarter mile each time. We are dead even going into third, but after that, I just pull away. He believes he puts down around 450whp. I should be around 445whp.

[Dubai_SS]

so 2 days ago me and my friends decided to race .. i have the camaro l99 and my frind has a stock mustange 2008 but the 2005 is tuned and has the exhaust system on.

and yesterday i raced the aston marten db9 and again i was ahead

and guess what? i was ahead from zero .. i have the 2 videos but how can i upload it ?

[FifthGenRS/SS]

well it sucks that we cant put any racing stories on here but but stock VS non stock you should have seen the guys face priceless