Camaro VS Mustang Mega Thread

[Dubai_SS]

how can i delete this thread i didnt know that no street racing stories were allowed!!

[SGOS252382]

It's definately a drivers race. The one that gets the best launch should win the race (stock vs stock).

[SummitWhiteLS]

Originally Posted by ColdCamaroSS

Sorry OP but I don't have stock to stock data...

I already supplied the data in my post above!

Originally Posted by SGOS252382

It's definately a drivers race. The one that gets the best launch should win the race (stock vs stock).

Correct.

Originally Posted by Ash1977

I guess you didn't see the poll at the top of the tread.
30-9 for the Cobra.
It can be a drivers race but on equal conditions and drivers, the Cobra is faster.

Mark

C&D tested them to be within 1/10 sec of each other.

Research is your friend ...

You said "even other Chevy people agree", not "most people polled". There's a difference.

English is your friend ...

[GATORJAK]

Originally Posted by dshep214

I have a 2011 stock camaro ss and I have a few buddies that have 03 and 04 cobra's. And i was just simply wondering stock vs stock who would win off the line and from rolling start. Now let me just say that i love all muscle cars and i respect that 4.6 DOHC supercharged engine very much im just curious!!!! Now remember this is stock on stock no mods on either. And lets say both drivers are equal lets keep this simple. Thanks guys i know i will get good feedback!!!

If you want the answer, go out and run your buddies!Why speculate?

[Bob Cosby]

03/04 Cobras put down ~365-375 RWHP stock, and weigh ~3650 lbs. They have a powerband similar to the LS3. They are not geared very aggressively, and of course, have the "band-aid" IRS. I know of two 03/04 Cobras that have gone 12.4s @ 114 mph in bone stock trim: One was MM&FF (Evan Smith) and the other was a private owner in the Midwest (Kenneth Risher).

It is certainly a close enough race that the driver can easily make the difference. If everything was exactly equal (and it never is), I'd give the Cobra a slight advantage.

[Ash1977]

Originally Posted by SummitWhiteLS

I already supplied the data in my post above!





C&D tested them to be within 1/10 sec of each other.

Research is your friend ...


You said "even other Chevy people agree", not "most people polled". There's a difference.

English is your friend ...

12.9 is faster than 13.0

Math is your friend

30 is more than 9

Math is your friend

If it makes you feel better that some people posted its a drivers race , go ahead. Both are great cars. If I had to pick one as a daily driver, I would pick the Camaro 2SS.


Mark

[jrc1122]

lol,, this thread is funny...

I don't "KNOW" which is faster. I would rather own a new Camaro, but the Power and allure of the 03/04 Cobra makes it a special car. Especially for its time.

[Sax1031]

Drivers race.

The 03/04 Cobras are probably realistically making 420-430hp in stock form. Any mods on the Cobra and it will gain significant power.

[THE EVIL TW1N]

drivers race for sure. Same HP but 200lbs lighter so the Cobra DOES have the advantage though.

[THE EVIL TW1N]

Originally Posted by ColdCamaroSS

Sorry OP but I don't have stock to stock data, but it would be a close race. A friend of mine has a ported and pullied Terminator, and I get him by a car in the quarter mile each time. We are dead even going into third, but after that, I just pull away. He believes he puts down around 450whp. I should be around 445whp.

sounds like your friend needs driving lessons.what is his trap speed? whats yours? Pullied Cobras put down 450rwhp and 500rwhp when ported so something is wrong with your friends car for it to be one of the weakest Cobras in the world (for the mods) .

[ULTRAZLS1]

Cobra would have an advantage. I would say they are even slightly faster than a 2011 GT. The cobra just has an IRS like the camaro and are a little tougher to launch.
Trap speeds...

03-04 Cobras frequently go 112+
111-112 for the 11 GT
Average traps are 110-111 for the camaro

Although it looks like the auto 11 GT could be the ticket...it may have all 3 beat...time will tell. A couple crazy 115 traps have been reported from them but they have been shadowed in some doubt for various reasons I wont go into (no need to argue)...as more time goes by we will get a better idea.

All three are a drivers race but I would put them in that order.

[ColdCamaroSS]

Originally Posted by THE EVIL TW1N

sounds like your friend needs driving lessons.what is his trap speed? whats yours? Pullied Cobras put down 450rwhp and 500rwhp when ported so something is wrong with your friends car for it to be one of the weakest Cobras in the world (for the mods) .

Yeah, we were both kinda surprised. I wish I had video to back me up but sadly I don't. His trap speeds were around 114, mine were around 115 with a fastest of 115.5. Both of us eased into the throttle, launching around idle speeds.

We were able to do a 35 mph roll at the
track and I was able to pull a car and half by the quarter.

I do agree with his mods, he should be putting down the 450-500hp you stated. As for his driving ability, no major mistakes were made (there's always room for improvement). I know the car did a best time of 11.2 at 119mph with the previous owner using slicks and some other go fast goodies but he reverted a lot of things back to stock with the exception of the mods I listed. Idk, maybe he had a full tank of fuel and an unknown tuning problem is his car's issue...I'd like to think my car makes way more power than I think lol

[Sax1031]

Originally Posted by ULTRAZLS1

Cobra would have an advantage. I would say they are even slightly faster than a 2011 GT. The cobra just has an IRS like the camaro and are a little tougher to launch.
Trap speeds...

03-04 Cobras frequently go 112+
111-112 for the 11 GT
Average traps are 110-111 for the camaro

Although it looks like the auto 11 GT could be the ticket...it may have all 3 beat...time will tell. A couple crazy 115 traps have been reported from them but they have been shadowed in some doubt for various reasons I wont go into (no need to argue)...as more time goes by we will get a better idea.

All three are a drivers race but I would put them in that order.

I think it is a toss up. It does appear the 03 Cobra pulls the best mph but I think the IRS it had is hurting it as far as ET goes.

[khislop007]

Sorry if this is a repost but I saw this monday night on SPEED