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Old 07-22-2010, 12:02 AM   #57
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Very good info mr hyde, u explained it perfectly and I totally agree


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Old 07-22-2010, 12:08 AM   #58
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those temps will not be an issue,, you really cant over cool an auto trans,,
It's not the transmission itself i'm worried about. It's the oil that needs to be maintained within a certain temp range. You don't go beat on your car until your engine oil is up to operating temp, but you think your tranny doesn't care?

I do think running a external cooler in the winter time will dramatically cool your tranny fluid. Whether it drops below 150 has yet to be determined but I wouldn't doubt it at all. I guess time will tell. It's certainly something i'd be worried about.
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Old 07-22-2010, 12:14 AM   #59
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It's not the transmission itself i'm worried about. It's the oil that needs to be maintained within a certain temp range. You don't go beat on your car until your engine oil is up to operating tem, but you think your tranny doesn't care?
trans internals not even close to an engine,, sorry,, i have run auto trans for many years several different vehicles(from 10 sec th350's to 10 sec 4L60e's all built by me) and have always ran a large cooler, trans temps in the 125*f to 180*f max, never had an issue

now if you are going to drive in the winter temps(below 30*f) then i would still run the radiator cooler with the aux cooler,
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Old 07-22-2010, 12:17 AM   #60
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trans internals not even close to an engine,, sorry,, i have run auto trans for many years several different vehicles(from 10 sec th350's to 10 sec 4L60e's all built by me) and have always ran a large cooler, trans temps in the 130*f to 180*f max, never had an issue
I know guys that have NEVER changed their engine oil. Does that mean we really don't need to change it?
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Old 07-22-2010, 12:24 AM   #61
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I know guys that have NEVER changed their engine oil. Does that mean we really don't need to change it?
hmm, what does that have to do with anything,, you are trying to compare the internal workings of a combustion engine to a automatic trans,,
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Old 07-22-2010, 12:28 AM   #62
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hmm, what does that have to do with anything,, you are trying to compare the internal workings of a combustion engine to a automatic trans,,
I'm just saying that just because you ran it without a problem doesn't mean there are no possible adverse affects from doing it.
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Old 07-22-2010, 12:38 AM   #63
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i will admit that the 6L80e trans is new to me but i have built many th350's and several 4L60e's in good running street cars 10-11sec stock weight vehicles and have even taken them apart after years of street/ track use for inspection and virtually no wear or clutch dis- coloration all running the same type of cooler/ running temps and no radiator cooler

what proof do you have?
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Old 07-22-2010, 12:48 AM   #64
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Camaro1 I dont wanna argue with u but the PCM DOES looks at temps and determine alot of variables...This is commen knowledge, Lockup cluth material needs to be at a correct temp to perform well both cold and hot..Not to mention lockup function based on temps..Tranmissions run fluid just like and engine, axis is correct....I wont argue with u about running a cooler becuase it is a good mod for the right application and i do agree running threw the rad is smart in multiple climates..

But to say a transmission and it fluid shouldnt run at a correct temp is just plain incorrect..
Fluid should be brought up to correct temps, walk threw the pits of a track and what do u see

GUYS WARMING UP ENGINES, TRANMISSIONS AND REARENDS..
There is a reason for this and u know the answer...
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Old 07-22-2010, 01:14 AM   #65
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walk threw the pits of a track and what do u see

GUYS WARMING UP ENGINES, TRANMISSIONS AND REARENDS..
There is a reason for this and u know the answer...
because they just unloaded them off there trailer,

by the way my tcc apply works just fine

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How hot is too HOT?
The worst enemy of an automatic transmission is heat
An automatic tranny is happiest at 190 degrees or less , Tranny fluid is thinner and works fine at temperatures much lower than it is wise to run your engine at.
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Old 07-22-2010, 01:29 AM   #66
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Exactly there not at the correct temps, u just contradicted yourself....

So why would u want something not up to a correct temp or too low of a temp
There is no arguing about too high of a temp so we agree on that subject?


No 170 to 200, lower is not good...
Its all good and we argee to dis-agree

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Old 07-22-2010, 11:24 AM   #67
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Camaro1 is right. The tranny fluid is very thin and it'll be fine.
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Old 07-22-2010, 12:28 PM   #68
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For you guys up north you will be fine you dont need one of these your daily driving temps dont get where our's get so you are probably going to be fine with your cars tranny temps.


As for the guys/Gals down south cheap insurance for your Tranny is well worth it.
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Old 07-25-2010, 09:57 PM   #69
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i mix dextron and gear oil 50-50 for my 4x4 diffs at -4o cel. deg in canada.
they stay mixed and the dextron is more slippery and is a better sub zero lubricant.
i will be adding a trans cooler on my boosted l99, before i race it again.
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its dexron, not dextron
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