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Old 07-24-2010, 06:11 PM   #71
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Why does the Airaid run so hot?
Test said the opening was to small.
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Old 07-24-2010, 06:16 PM   #72
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Thank you Jannetty Racing!!! The test Gods have spoken...........
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Old 07-24-2010, 06:29 PM   #73
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Old 07-24-2010, 06:51 PM   #74
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Why would the IAT have gone up so much on the Airaid test? How long does it take to go from 3k rpms to 7k rpms? Seems extremely odd to me for the temperature to have increased that much that fast and only for that one intake. If anything, I would have expected the K&N IAT temps to be pretty similar to the Airaid. Especially considering the stock IAT actually went *down* during testing.
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Old 07-24-2010, 07:34 PM   #75
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Thanks for all the hard work putting this together. My car is a daily driver that lives around 2000 to 3500 rpms. I love the extra low end grunt of the Airaid.
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Old 07-24-2010, 07:35 PM   #76
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Old 07-24-2010, 07:47 PM   #77
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... my Injen has seen several bad rain storms ... You'll have to submerge the filter ... in 12-14" of standing water, to seriously create an issue.
So what you're saying is that 12-14" of water with the Injen, and the engine will be destroyed.

I agree.

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... The Injen wins because with this V6 car you have to get the filter out of the engine compartment to really create cold air. The Injen is the only TRUE cold air intake of the four ... Thanks Jannetty for deciding the true champ of CAI's once in for all.
For a "true cold air" intake, Injen's IAT's were a whole whopping 2 degrees cooler than the CAI unit. Wow, I'm impressed.

Thanks JRE, for showing us that the supposed advantages of a low hanging filter CAI are virtually non-existent.

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........I am absolutely impressed and happy, that CAI was able to match with Injen. Its nice to see an engine bay intake kicking ass like that ...
Finally! An unbiased statement.

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... I still have a hydrolock concern with Injen, especially as my ride is a four seasons daily driver in the Northeast.
Me too tjd. Me too ...

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Old 07-24-2010, 07:57 PM   #78
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Thanks Janetty... it's really interesting to see the results. To me it looks like there isn't a runaway winner. It depends what you are looking for and these tests give us good insight into what will work best for each of our applications. Looks like I have some thinking to do...
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Old 07-24-2010, 08:15 PM   #79
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Also........I am absolutely impressed and happy, that CAI was able to match with Injen. Its nice to see an engine bay intake kicking ass like that.
Its drawing air from about the same place the injen is well away from engine heat. Due to the MAF bottleneck all they have to work with on the LLT is flow resistance and distance and drawing cooler air. It aint rocket science. Now if someone could develop an OTR to shorten the distance we could prolly get even more power with the reduced distance but I can see it would take a sawzall to get one to fit.
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Old 07-24-2010, 08:23 PM   #80
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I now have the K&N and I am one happy camper!

I just had time to try it out today and I must say that it's pretty impressive! I feel the extra torque and it's awesome. I cannot beleive that there is so much to gain with this bolt on, it's frankly quite astounding.

I thank Janetty for putting in the effort to pull this all together, albeit bad timing for me as I had already just ordered my K&N and I don't think I would have cancelled my order in lieu of these test results. I drive my car all year round and we have major snow and large wet seasons in Montreal, Quebec. The Ingen just would not work for my for this reason.

I will share some pix and a video for you all that I took today. I will post more soon enough, but here is a cold engine start and a couple of "gooses" of the gas pedal. You can rally hear the vacuum pulling in that air and it really does make noise that you can hear, bot when you drive from in the car and from a bystanders point of view.


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Old 07-24-2010, 08:50 PM   #81
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So what you're saying is that 12-14" of water with the Injen, and the engine will be destroyed.

I agree.



For a "true cold air" intake, Injen's IAT's were a whole whopping 2 degrees cooler than the CAI unit. Wow, I'm impressed.

Thanks JRE, for showing us that the supposed advantages of a low hanging filter CAI are virtually non-existent.



Finally! An unbiased statement.



Me too tjd. Me too ...



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Non-existent?? It had the most HP avg of any CAI of the testing. I am not knocking the CAI Inc. intake, if I had to choose something other than Injen then CAI Inc would be it. But according to the test Injen won. Weather it be 2 degrees cooler or 50 degrees cooler, it still had the most HP on average.
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Old 07-24-2010, 09:00 PM   #82
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Just ordered my CAI Inc...can't wait...thanks guys for all your work
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Old 07-24-2010, 09:01 PM   #83
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Airaid v2 SHOULD BE PRAISED FOR THEIR BIG IMPROVEMENT AND FOR FREE TO EXISTING OWNERS.

Since I will not be at WOT at higher RPM's all too often, kudos to numbers for Airaid.

Thanks for doing this test! Is it time for new decals on HP, up from 312HP? LOL
Then why didn't they do that in the beginning? How many people bought on their first numbers and had to wait for some time to get it fixed.
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Old 07-24-2010, 09:04 PM   #84
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I will try and asnwer as many questions as I can.

A Hole in the bottom of the Airaid box would eliminate the IAT temp rise during acceleration, I have already spoken to Airaid on this, now it is up to them or Us and a Hole saw LOL.

Fuel Trims are the final adjustment to the injector pulse width calculation.

The MAF measures the amount of air coming in to the engine, the computer calculates the injector pulse width, the O2 sensor check the Air fuel ratio and the computer then makes Fuel trim adjustments.

Short Term fuel trims are immediate.
Long Term fuel trims are Learned and stored in the computer.

Once the short terms exceed a certain number a certain number of times it gets stored in the Long terms then the short terms can continue Immediate adjustments.

Short terms typically stay + or - 3% once the Long terms have settled in.

I don't think Hydrolocking is as much of a concern as I am reading here.

You Must Fully submerse the whole filter in water with the engine running.

In other words you have to drive in to a Lake, in that case I don't think you would be worried about hydrolocking.

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