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KaiserSoze · 07-30-2010, 02:58 PM

Don't know why the pic of the dinosaur was included except maybe as proof that GM used to make a 3.8? But if you actually read his post and not just look at the pretty pictures, he's only wondering why GM doesn't have a new 3.8. It would make much more sense for GM to increase the displacement of it's current 3.6 design (provided the block can handle the increase) than to totally redesign an old engine.

Also, the only way to increase horsepower is to increase the torque at any given RPM. HP=torque*RPM/5252. Torque=force*distance. So bored (more force) or stroked (more distance), the engine would still make more of both. Now that the '11 Mustang V6 is here, GM may just increase the V6 displacement (PLEASE) to make up for the Camaro's extra weight.

yellowgmc · 11-13-2010, 02:09 PM

why mess with perfection!

Revo1 · 11-13-2010, 02:15 PM

The 3.8 was introduced an an optional motor in 1996.

The current direct injected 3.6 makes 312hp (amazing for a 6) and still puts down 29 mpg. What more do you want? I think they nailed it with this motor. It really is an unprecedented mix of power and economy for a entry level car. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

Not sure about this thread... With that photo of the 3.8 up there, I sorta feel like we have this:

But kinda want this back.

Does that about sum this thread up?

CAMAR0 · 11-13-2010, 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ViperTomcat

It would be a larger operation than just updating the engine. It would basically require a brand new design of engine that has been designed to 3.8L

Huh, vary bore and stroke slightly....

It is a great motor though... However, a bump to 4L gets you about 350hp. Should be enough to handle the v6 mustang times.

Sir Nuke · 11-13-2010, 02:41 PM

I have the V6....and I love it.....BUT I really do wish I have more options for mods....the REAL issue is if we have more POWER ADDERS available to us.....and IF the ECM was "broken into", like it is in the V8.....you would see a lot more guys and gals modding their power trains other than just a CAI, and an exhaust. REGARDLESS of the size our our engines. once upon a time I had a Ford, and it was a 3.0 L V6.....and FORD Performance had a Whipple SC kit that I could have had put on my truck and the engine warrentee would cover it....THATS what we need.....have the backing of GM would be paramount.

stray bullitt · 11-13-2010, 03:49 PM

http://www.ford.co.uk/Cars/NewFocusRS Five cylinder 2.5 litre, with 305bhp. You guys make some great looking cars, but the obsession with V8s is a little anachronistic today. Any of you who have driven Beemers, or audis will attest to the fact that the hp to displacement ratios in their engines is amazing. The camaro is a heavy beast, but short of dropping some of our beloved gizmos, or using expensive aluminium panels, that's what we've got. I look forward to the new year, to pose with my fat V6 Camaro, next to our lads in lightweight whizz bombs.

usa1camaro1969 · 11-13-2010, 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Number 3

Does anyone remember when the 3.8 was the V6 in the Camaro? I do. Drove one to Florida Christmas of 1993.

Kinda doubt it as in '93 the v6 was a 3.4 and made a massive 160 horsepower.

Revo1 · 11-13-2010, 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by usa1camaro1969

Kinda doubt it as in '93 the v6 was a 3.4 and made a massive 160 horsepower.

v6sonoma · 11-13-2010, 06:47 PM

I wish they would drop the "Iron Duke" back in.

0-60 in maybe.

King Sun · 11-13-2010, 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by v6sonoma

I wish they would drop the "Iron Duke" back in.

0-60 in maybe.

lol @ smart cars passing you up.

midnighter · 11-13-2010, 06:59 PM

Yes w/turbo like the Grand National 3.8 V6 motors.

11-13-2010, 02:15 PM	#31
Revo1 Don't Like it? Suggit. Drives: 2010 2SS/RS Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Fresno, CA Posts: 14,832 View My Garage	The 3.8 was introduced an an optional motor in 1996. The current direct injected 3.6 makes 312hp (amazing for a 6) and still puts down 29 mpg. What more do you want? I think they nailed it with this motor. It really is an unprecedented mix of power and economy for a entry level car. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Not sure about this thread... With that photo of the 3.8 up there, I sorta feel like we have this: But kinda want this back. Does that about sum this thread up? __________________ "Tops off, tach up baby- loud and proud!" A Camaro lover from day one- 1996 3.8 V6 Camaro, to 1996 5.7 LT1 Camaro Z28, to the sold 2002 5.7 LS1 Camaro SS, and NOW, a [I]6.2 L99 VR 2SS/RS: XS Power stainless full exhaust, Airaid CAI, BMR drop springs and sways, custom tune by Cal Speed- 411rwhp

11-13-2010, 02:41 PM	#33
Sir Nuke Master of All Things Drives: '26 Corvette Stingray Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Southeast of Houston, Texas Posts: 22,679 View My Garage	I have the V6....and I love it.....BUT I really do wish I have more options for mods....the REAL issue is if we have more POWER ADDERS available to us.....and IF the ECM was "broken into", like it is in the V8.....you would see a lot more guys and gals modding their power trains other than just a CAI, and an exhaust. REGARDLESS of the size our our engines. once upon a time I had a Ford, and it was a 3.0 L V6.....and FORD Performance had a Whipple SC kit that I could have had put on my truck and the engine warrentee would cover it....THATS what we need.....have the backing of GM would be paramount. __________________ Last edited by Sir Nuke; 11-13-2010 at 02:56 PM.

11-13-2010, 06:47 PM	#37
v6sonoma Drives: 2010 SS RS Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Providence, RI Posts: 8,108 View My Garage	I wish they would drop the "Iron Duke" back in. 0-60 in maybe. __________________ Mods: BBK Intake, BBK LT's and High Flow Cats, Corsa Cat-back exhaust, Hurst short throw shifter, SLP skip-shift eliminator. 7/1/09 Placed order for IOM/IO int/ SS/RS 6M 9/26/09 Took delivery!

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07-30-2010, 02:58 PM	#29
KaiserSoze Drives: 2008 MazdaSpeed3 Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Lost Wages, NV Posts: 37	Don't know why the pic of the dinosaur was included except maybe as proof that GM used to make a 3.8? But if you actually read his post and not just look at the pretty pictures, he's only wondering why GM doesn't have a new 3.8. It would make much more sense for GM to increase the displacement of it's current 3.6 design (provided the block can handle the increase) than to totally redesign an old engine. Also, the only way to increase horsepower is to increase the torque at any given RPM. HP=torqueRPM/5252. Torque=forcedistance. So bored (more force) or stroked (more distance), the engine would still make more of both. Now that the '11 Mustang V6 is here, GM may just increase the V6 displacement (PLEASE) to make up for the Camaro's extra weight.

11-13-2010, 02:09 PM	#30
yellowgmc Drives: 2011 2LT yellow/black strips Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Santa Fe, NM Posts: 2 View My Garage	why mess with perfection!

11-13-2010, 03:49 PM	#34
stray bullitt Drives: Bentley Continental GT. Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Boston, Lincolnshire, England Posts: 1,022	http://www.ford.co.uk/Cars/NewFocusRS Five cylinder 2.5 litre, with 305bhp. You guys make some great looking cars, but the obsession with V8s is a little anachronistic today. Any of you who have driven Beemers, or audis will attest to the fact that the hp to displacement ratios in their engines is amazing. The camaro is a heavy beast, but short of dropping some of our beloved gizmos, or using expensive aluminium panels, that's what we've got. I look forward to the new year, to pose with my fat V6 Camaro, next to our lads in lightweight whizz bombs.

11-13-2010, 06:59 PM	#39
midnighter Account Suspended Drives: nothing Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: a hole Posts: 17,904	Yes w/turbo like the Grand National 3.8 V6 motors.