My 3.6 KB

[midgard]

Originally Posted by shaner74

You know, everytime I think I decide what type of FI I want (turbo, PD, centrifugal) a thread like this comes along and I have to rethink the whole thing. The 3.6 kb looks nasty.

I agree. Btw, when you are looking at these different options....its not about the maximum RWHP and RWTQ that you get....its really about the RWTQ band from around nearly 3000 rpms to around 6000 rpms or so.

What I'm trying to say is that we see some of these different chargers that peak at the end and look great when you talk about max power numbers. However, a 600 or 800 rwhp KB will destroy a similarly powered 600 or 800 rwhp Pro Charger (and beyond that too) for these Camaros...why? because if you look at the torque curves, for equal maximum power...the KBs and Maggies will have considerably superior torque in the mid range....and with the weight of these cars...you are going to need that.

[futrocpd]

good grief this thing is going to be nasty.

[SonnyakaPig]

Originally Posted by midgard

I agree. Btw, when you are looking at these different options....its not about the maximum RWHP and RWTQ that you get....its really about the RWTQ band from around nearly 3000 rpms to around 6000 rpms or so.

What I'm trying to say is that we see some of these different chargers that peak at the end and look great when you talk about max power numbers. However, a 600 or 800 rwhp KB will destroy a similarly powered 600 or 800 rwhp Pro Charger (and beyond that too) for these Camaros...why? because if you look at the torque curves, for equal maximum power...the KBs and Maggies will have considerably superior torque in the mid range....and with the weight of these cars...you are going to need that.

Well said.

The KB benefits from having the low and midrange power as well as great linear hp all the way to the top. It's like the best of both worlds. Twin Screw all the way.

[camaros and vettes]

i just have a little old 2.8 ordered. i hoped to have had today but i found out it has yet to ship :( very sad wanted to get put on for the iowa meet and greet.

[SonnyakaPig]

Originally Posted by camaros and vettes

i just have a little old 2.8 ordered. i hoped to have had today but i found out it has yet to ship :( very sad wanted to get put on for the iowa meet and greet.

You're going to love it. I'm excited for you. I had one on my L99 and it was great. The best part was the sound. KB whine is the best.

[camaros and vettes]

why had?? what were your gains?? only other mod to increase anything is noweeds exhaust diverters. i want to do cam and headers at some point. but better get sc paid for first

[2010 Bumblebee]

Originally Posted by tony1

With a laundry list like yours (That car is built to the hilt).. You must be one RICH dude. Unless your losing your shirt on this.

Some people are a little more well of than we are

[usmcjlp]

Originally Posted by camaros and vettes

i just have a little old 2.8 ordered. i hoped to have had today but i found out it has yet to ship :( very sad wanted to get put on for the iowa meet and greet.

Dude, I feel your pain. I'm in the same boat.

[SonnyakaPig]

Originally Posted by usmcjlp

Dude, I feel your pain. I'm in the same boat.

Tell Jeff to put a rush on your kit! jk haha

[SonnyakaPig]

Originally Posted by camaros and vettes

why had?? what were your gains?? only other mod to increase anything is noweeds exhaust diverters. i want to do cam and headers at some point. but better get sc paid for first

I traded in the Camaro.

My car put down 470 rwhp/440 rwtq, I think at like max 17 degrees timing on 91 octane tune with 11.2 avg AFR -- so a real conservative tune.

I put 1 7/8" LT's on and for various reasons (namely heat and perhaps even a frequency issue that was setting off the knock sensors) my car did not make all of the timing that we were commanding so I didn't see an increase in horsepower. But I did see an increase of 20 ft/lbs of rwtq.

My car was making that number at like 14 degrees of timing, so it would have made more if we got the 18 degrees like we were after and combine that with the fact that the temp was like 100* F outside, so it was a very hot day.

I could feel the difference that the headers made for sure. It was clear as day (butt dyno), but that's because my car was probably making the commanded timing number when my car was moving and air was moving over my car.

But, a Camaro with headers, a KB and aftermarket catback is so loud that it's truly annoying (to me and many other people standing or driving next to you). To each their own. I will say my car sounded clean as can be -- no drone.

Keep in mind your power numbers will be much better if you have an LS3. The L99 stock cam is a baby and it doesn't want to make power. At least the LS3 stock cam will make some good numbers. And if you change out to a more aggressive cam, the sky is your limit.

[mikepage0007]

Originally Posted by SonnyakaPig

I traded in the Camaro.

My car put down 470 rwhp/440 rwtq, I think at like max 17 degrees timing on 91 octane tune with 11.2 avg AFR -- so a real conservative tune.

I put 1 7/8" LT's on and for various reasons (namely heat and perhaps even a frequency issue that was setting off the knock sensors) my car did not make all of the timing that we were commanding so I didn't see an increase in horsepower. But I did see an increase of 20 ft/lbs of rwtq.

My car was making that number at like 14 degrees of timing, so it would have made more if we got the 18 degrees like we were after and combine that with the fact that the temp was like 100* F outside, so it was a very hot day.

I could feel the difference that the headers made for sure. It was clear as day (butt dyno), but that's because my car was probably making the commanded timing number when my car was moving and air was moving over my car.

But, a Camaro with headers, a KB and aftermarket catback is so loud that it's truly annoying (to me and many other people standing or driving next to you). To each their own. I will say my car sounded clean as can be -- no drone.

Keep in mind your power numbers will be much better if you have an LS3. The L99 stock cam is a baby and it doesn't want to make power. At least the LS3 stock cam will make some good numbers. And if you change out to a more aggressive cam, the sky is your limit.

don,t keep me in suspense...what did you trade it for??

[69 Rebel]

Originally Posted by mikepage0007

don,t keep me in suspense...what did you trade it for??

Pls say another muscle car

[midgard]

His sig says he drives a fast sedan! Must not be a muscle car

[Speed74SS]

Originally Posted by mikepage0007

don,t keep me in suspense...what did you trade it for??

Yes - spill it