Things you should know about cops

[Eisenhower]

Let me get this straight... if a person gets offended by some bonehead's careless statement-- that makes them a whiner. yur brilliant matter-o-fact, yur both brilliant

[Mr. Wyndham]

Okay now, slow down....I can see where this is going, and I'm not likin it...can we not do this, and save Moose/Tag a breath just to re-instate the rules...please, let's not go any further...please.

[Jak]

Your right, your right. Sorry.
Though after watching a local Police Officer get beat up by a bunch teenaged pieces of garbage I was a little touchy about the earlier comments, this Officer was punched, kicked and hit in the head with his baton approx twenty times. Five months before that, another Utica cop was shot in the head during a traffic stop. Less then a year before that a New Hartford cop was shot an killed.
Here's the link to the local paper with the vid of the officer trying to defend himself even though not one person there lifted a freaking finger to help him. www.uticaOD.com

[CamaroSpike23]

Originally Posted by Jak

Your right, your right. Sorry.
Though after watching a local Police Officer get beat up by a bunch teenaged pieces of garbage I was a little touchy about the earlier comments, this Officer was punched, kicked and hit in the head with his baton approx twenty times. Five months before that, another Utica cop was shot in the head during a traffic stop. Less then a year before that a New Hartford cop was shot an killed.
Here's the link to the local paper with the vid of the officer trying to defend himself even though not one person there lifted a freaking finger to help him. www.uticaOD.com

whoa...

thats a disturbing vid.

[Mr. Wyndham]

That is distrbing...though, the officer seemed to fair alright...

For the record - I'm no vigilante, but I would have jumped into it in a second to keep those @$$holes off of him.

Around here, we recently had a shooting of two police officers, One of them was shot right in the face through the spine, however, she survived, and may be paralized.

Wounded officer may be paralyzed
SPINE SEVERED FROM SHOT FIRED BY TEEN
Injured partner who tackled suspect is in fair condition

By MAKI BECKER, VAN and ESSA THOMAS JAY REY
News Staff Reporters Buffalo News
12/7/2006

Officer Patricia A. Parete, clinging to life Wednesday night after her spine was severed by a bullet, is described by fellow cops as vibrant and "not one to walk away from a police call.

Officer Patricia A. Parete, clinging to life Wednesday night after her spine was severed by a bullet, is described by fellow cops as vibrant and "not one to walk away from a police call."

Patricia A. Parete - one of two Buffalo police officers shot Tuesday night - was fighting for her life late Wednesday, her spine severed by a bullet fired by a teenager who was on probation.

If Parete survives, she likely will be paralyzed from the neck down.

"If she lives, she's probably going to be a quadriplegic," said a fellow officer who spoke on condition of anonymity. "I'm just so angry right now. It's horrible."

Sources also told The Buffalo News that police believe Varner Harris Jr., 18, who police say confessed to the shootings, opened fire on Parete and her partner, Officer Carl E. Andolina, because he feared being sent to prison now that he is of legal age and no longer eligible for youthful offender status.

Parete, the first female Buffalo police officer shot in the line of duty, was listed in serious condition late Wednesday night, while Andolina was in fair condition. Both are in Erie County Medical Center.

Tuesday night, Parete and Andolina were riding together on a special detail downtown investigating a rash of car break-ins. At 9:01 p.m., they were dispatched to a Valero gas station on the corner of Chippewa Street and South Elmwood Avenue, where a fight had been reported.

The officers spotted Harris running from the scene and chased him in their cruiser.

They got out of their patrol car and ordered Harris to turn around and take his hands out of his pockets.

They didn't know until too late that Harris was carrying a gun.
Harris "knew once the gun was found that he would go back to jail and finish his time and he wouldn't be a young offender anymore," a police source said. "He'd be going to the men's jail."

Harris began shooting at the two officers, nearly emptying the gun, as Andolina tackled him to the ground.

Neither officer discharged a weapon.

Parete was hit twice. Her bulletproof vest blocked a round aimed at her chest, but a second bullet pierced her face and ripped apart her spine.

As Andolina tackled Harris, he was hit three times - in the neck, arm and chest, protected by his vest.

"Andolina charged at him and took him to the ground," Police Commissioner H. McCarthy Gipson said at a morning news conference at ECMC. "He physically charged at an individual who was firing at him at point-blank range. He charged at a blazing gun."

At the news briefing, Mayor Byron W. Brown commended Andolina's "heroic actions."

Harris was arraigned Wednesday morning in City Court, where Judge David M. Manz entered a not-guilty plea on Harris' behalf on attempted murder and weapons charges.

Manz ordered Harris to remain in jail without bail and said he will appoint a lawyer to represent him.

Law enforcement sources revealed Wednesday that Harris had been arrested Jan. 24, 2005 - when he was 17 - for attempting to rob a pizza deliveryman with two other youths, one of whom had a gun.

He spent nearly two months in the Erie County Holding Center before he was released on $5,000 bail.

His case came before the grand jury, and in May 2005, he was sentenced to five years' probation as a youthful offender.

Police believe Harris may have bought the gun used in Tuesday night's shootings off the street just a couple of days ago to protect himself from former gang members.

While Harris has a gang tattoo, he had "disassociated himself with the gang," a police source told The News. "But there was pressure to re-engage with the gang."

Harris' 15-year-old girlfriend said he told her he was in some sort of trouble and was carrying the revolver for protection.

"It's hard for me to believe he was involved," the girl said. "He's not violent. He didn't act violent." The News is withholding her name because of her age.

Family members, as well as probation officials and other people charged with looking after him, said Harris had been showing signs he was turning his life around.

He was enrolled in the day program at Hopevale School in Hamburg, a program for seventh- through 12th-graders who have run into trouble with the law or at their neighborhood schools.

His mother, Theresa Moore, produced a report card that showed his latest grades were in the 80s and 90s.

She said he had taken a liking to his home economics class and brought home pies he had baked.

He also was an aspiring rapper and had recently recorded a demo CD.

Harris, who is a week shy of his 19th birthday, came from a troubled family. Records show his father, Varner Harris Sr., was arrested in 1989 in a series of violent home invasion robberies of the elderly. He spent nearly three years in prison and another three years on parole.

Probation officials said Harris had been under "intensive supervision" following his conviction last year.

"We were keeping a close watch on him because of the nature of the crime," said George Alexander, Erie County probation commissioner.

Harris always was at home as required when curfew checks were made and was meeting with his probation officer as scheduled.

Gregory Brice, director of the Bissonette House, who had worked as a behavioral specialist at Hopevale, said Harris was a quiet loner who was respectful to authorities.

"The Varner I know is a quiet, almost humble, and respectful young man," Brice said.

"I was shocked when I read the paper and saw his name," he said. "I know when I deal with him as an authority figure, he was always respectful."

Moore said her son had been having behavioral problems earlier in the year and was so prone to angry outbursts that she took him to a doctor.

"He was acting up," Moore said. "Like when I asked him to do something, he would just spaz out. I wanted to know what the problem was."

The doctor prescribed Prozac, and Harris seemed to improve on the medication, she said. But he didn't like taking it and had recently stopped.

"If he was still taking [his medication], this probably wouldn't have happened," his distraught mother said.

"One side of me believes it," she said of the police shootings her son is accused of committing. "The other side doesn't."
News Staff Reporters Michael Beebe and Matt Gryta contributed to this report.

This is just one example of why I have the utmost respect for Law enforcement, an EMT's. They chose a career that potentially puts their life on the line.

[TFord]

when I was in high school I worked 2 jobs...at one of them I cut fish for a resturant that was 4 blocks from home...I usually got home around 9pm which gave me time to get home get the fish off me and catch the bus to my second job. about once a week while walking home one or two squad cars would pull up on the side walk and give me a hard time. using a lame reason " you fit the description of a murder suspect" I guess it was fun for them. one time I asked the cop was the description a black guy with a apron covered with fish chunks. cop got pissed and proceeded to jab his baton into my gut. when I bent over in pain I got face planted, kicked, cuffed threw into the back of a cop car. next thing I knew I was in a mexican neighborhood were the asswhoopin was finished, and thats where I was left. needless to say I was fired from my second job and we went a month without electricity. so forgive me If I dislike the police... but everyone here is from different places so the things that they are exposed to will vary. I lived most my life hating police, but Im mature enough to know that not every cop is bad. the thing we all need to do is to first off not take everything so personally...Merf's comment didnt offend me...hell its kinda true. and understand that people do have feelings to certain things....which dispite how we feel about it, we have to respect it. because untill we've walked a mile in that persons shoes we dont know what he or she has been through...with that being said lets get back on topic!

[Mr. Wyndham]

Originally Posted by TFord

....which dispite how we feel about it, we have to respect it. because untill we've walked a mile in that persons shoes we dont know what he or she has been through...with that being said lets get back on topic!

Here, Here!

[TAG UR IT]

Oh my...where to begin.

TFord...wish you had the names and badge #'s of those pricks. I hear IA investigation all the way...indefinite suspension, AND JAIL TIME for a violation of civil rights, assault, and boy could the list go on and on. I'm sorry that happened to you.

On that topic, just FYI, my father was in the FBI for 25 or so years... When he was in DC, he worked internal investigation of civil rights violations. That's right. He put those guys in jail. My view...we are here to do a job...period. I don't take anything personally. People say sh!t to me all the time...because I'm simply one of the guys "in blue." It goes in one ear and out the other. Unless it is said directly and is a threat...then they get more charges.

There are good cops and bad cops. Just read the paper...or the stories above. Luckily, I haven't run into anyone who does crap like that. I'm sure they are out there on the dept.

We catch some pretty bad dudes. I hear stories of the extra punches being thrown in to "teach them a lesson" but again, have never seen it. Others who know me know I'm straight. If the fight is on, well....IT'S ON. Once the cuffs are on, it's over. And I try to get those cuffs on before any fight ever begins. I can usually talk people down before it gets that far....but for some...won't ever happen.

Hopefully you guys know there are the good ones out there...people who care. That's why I'm here. I do get to those moments where I have to roll my eyes when dealing w/ drama. I've explained that one before. But, it does get bad.

And on that note, another officer and I caught a murderer last Friday night...a week ago. Shooter told his wife he'd kill her and everyone else in the house if anyone called the police over a family disturbance they were having. 911 hang up came in to police. Officer shows up and exits his car. Stepmom yells police are here. Dad goes running exiting the house. 27 year old shot his dad 4 times in the back and once in the back of the head while he tried to run (officer was in the driveway when Dad was shot). He tried to kill stepmom shooting at her twice. Flees out the back door. Helicopter picks up his heat signiture in an alley. He's supposedly still armed. Me and another officer go in and get him. Got a full confession and all. Everyone went home that night....thank GOD.

This job is not easy. I don't want to get shot at, but yet I know it's probably going to happen. I do get fed up w/ stupid calls. A family of ducks crossing the road is not a freaking police matter...nor is the turtle crossing the road that I got flagged down for today....NOR IS A BARKING DOG!!! And if "this" (insert problem here) is an ongoing problem that seems to never get fixed, LEAVE A NAME AND CONTACT # SO WE CAN TELL YOU JUST WHY THE "PROBLEM" WILL NEVER GET FIXED!!! Awe heck...I feel like going straight back to the list posted.



Guys, be cool on the forum. Watch the comments, please. Some might agree, but some might get offended. If you offend someone, apologize. Don't provoke it. Don't add fuel to the fire. Just let it go and be cool. There's no need for BS here. We don't need to read the bickering.

With that, THANK YOU.

[CamaroSpike23]

[Jak]

Ooooooooo, cool pic.

[Mr. Wyndham]

:eek: Your right. I LIKE IT!!!! TAG, is that your police cruiser?

[acscamarochick06]

LOL I think I might see Tag sittin' in the drivers seat!

There is a Kentucky State Police Camaro that hangs out on Bowling Green Road a lot around here... You can't tell it's a KSP car until you're right up on it because the lettering is so small. Pretty cool though!

[TAG UR IT]

I'll have to take some video of my SS w/ the red and blues on. I also have wig-wags up front. I'm in the process of finding some red/blues that I can fit in the front fascia which will connect to my installed AO unit. It'll be pretty damn cool once I get the fronts hooked up.

Oh...and I mean my SS...not a city vehicle. I drive the Crown Vic everyday. I'm sure I have a picture somewhere...

Here's the cars lined up at the academy next to the track.

[MerF]

Umm...I was just ****ing around, Ike. (I think) Tford realized that, as did many others.

Sorry if I offended, but being that defensive HURTS equal rights more than it helps it.