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Old 10-10-2010, 10:49 AM   #3865
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Old 10-11-2010, 05:45 PM   #3866
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Old 10-11-2010, 05:48 PM   #3867
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Old 10-11-2010, 06:20 PM   #3868
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A few in the press are claiming GM "lied" about the Volt because the in some instances the engine can actually provide direct propulsion. So instead of reveling in the technology, as most of the reviewers are doing, a few misguided folks are trying to reinterpret what GM meant when and what it said then to put them down.
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Old 10-11-2010, 06:34 PM   #3869
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What's the deal to all that? Although a technicality, a mechanical (albeit temporary) link no longer qualifies as an EV...right? I don't understand what the big 'uprising' is about...get over it. But it's *technically* true.

EDIT: Nevermind. I just read through the thread. How disappointing. You add a feature to the car to enhance its abilities and suddenly you're deceiving the customer. Whaaaa?!
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Old 10-11-2010, 07:10 PM   #3870
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A few in the press are claiming GM "lied" about the Volt because the in some instances the engine can actually provide direct propulsion. So instead of reveling in the technology, as most of the reviewers are doing, a few misguided folks are trying to reinterpret what GM meant when and what it said then to put them down.
by direct propulsion you mean supplying batteries then the batteries supply the motor? I mean that could be considered direct. . .lol
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Old 10-11-2010, 07:40 PM   #3871
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by direct propulsion you mean supplying batteries then the batteries supply the motor? I mean that could be considered direct. . .lol
No, the ICE now has a direct link to the drive wheels to aid the electric motor at speeds of 70 MPH and above.

This all started from an Edmunds article, and some are speculating that it's purely revenge for GM refusing them access to a Volt for a test drive. If I recall correctly, MotorTrend released their own review the same day as the Edmunds article and mentioned the ICE-drive wheel link in their article, but didn't bash it or GM.

Of course, the next site on the bandwagon was Jalopnik, and that site is pretty much the epitome of bad journalism since they can't keep their opinions to themselves when reporting on things.

Plus, the author of the original Edmunds article is apparently the brother of a Nissan employee. Guess what Nissan builds...the Volt's half-assed competitor, the Leaf.
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Old 10-11-2010, 07:57 PM   #3872
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A few in the press are claiming GM "lied" about the Volt because the in some instances the engine can actually provide direct propulsion. So instead of reveling in the technology, as most of the reviewers are doing, a few misguided folks are trying to reinterpret what GM meant when and what it said then to put them down.
75 miles with a guy behind the wheel taking it to 100 MPH and in general driving it like a guy with a new toy on less than a gallon of gas. http://www.detnews.com/article/20101...ient-—-and-fun

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Old 10-11-2010, 08:06 PM   #3873
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I was on a panel with Scott Settlemire and Cheryl Pilcher at the Anahiem Convention Center last weekend. The first thing they said was they had no comment on the vehicle that doesn't exist. They would take no questions on the vehicle that doesn't exist. IMHO they were way to happy while they were not confirming the vehicle that doesn't exist. Maybe it was just the California weather making them smile or it could have been they just finished talking to me

If they do decide to build the vehicle that doesn't exist I have gone on record asking for a CTS-V style steering wheel, Alcantara inserts to add grip to the seats and a CTS-V style differential cooler. Brake ducts or a provision for brake ducts would be awesome. If they can do it without breaking the budget a titanium exhaust with Vette style loud button would put it over the top. A heat extractor hood is essential. Throwing a 'spare' blower pulley in the glove box would save me the trouble of getting one

Too bad they said there was no such vehicle to dream about.
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Old 10-11-2010, 08:46 PM   #3874
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I was on a panel with Scott Settlemire and Cheryl Pilcher at the Anahiem Convention Center last weekend. The first thing they said was they had no comment on the vehicle that doesn't exist. They would take no questions on the vehicle that doesn't exist. IMHO they were way to happy while they were not confirming the vehicle that doesn't exist. Maybe it was just the California weather making them smile or it could have been they just finished talking to me

If they do decide to build the vehicle that doesn't exist I have gone on record asking for a CTS-V style steering wheel, Alcantara inserts to add grip to the seats and a CTS-V style differential cooler. Brake ducts or a provision for brake ducts would be awesome. If they can do it without breaking the budget a titanium exhaust with Vette style loud button would put it over the top. A heat extractor hood is essential. Throwing a 'spare' blower pulley in the glove box would save me the trouble of getting one

Too bad they said there was no such vehicle to dream about.
That is a pretty nice wish list for a vehicle that doesn't exist. It sounds so nice when you say it I actually hope they build something like that. Except for an extra pulley......that would just add weight
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Old 10-11-2010, 08:53 PM   #3875
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No, the ICE now has a direct link to the drive wheels to aid the electric motor at speeds of 70 MPH and above.

This all started from an Edmunds article, and some are speculating that it's purely revenge for GM refusing them access to a Volt for a test drive. If I recall correctly, MotorTrend released their own review the same day as the Edmunds article and mentioned the ICE-drive wheel link in their article, but didn't bash it or GM.

Of course, the next site on the bandwagon was Jalopnik, and that site is pretty much the epitome of bad journalism since they can't keep their opinions to themselves when reporting on things.

Plus, the author of the original Edmunds article is apparently the brother of a Nissan employee. Guess what Nissan builds...the Volt's half-assed competitor, the Leaf.
hmmm news to me.

now more reason not to do 80 miles an hour. . .

jalopnik is a blog and very opinionated and wrong a lot of the time. I go there to look at pictures of cars that don't exist.
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Old 10-11-2010, 09:36 PM   #3876
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Okay, so now there is no mechanical linkage?

http://media.gm.com/content/media/us.../Oct/1011_volt
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No, there is no mechanical linkage. Basically the ICE generates electricity directly to the electric motors rather than routing it through the battery.
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Old 10-12-2010, 01:02 AM   #3878
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No, there is no mechanical linkage. Basically the ICE generates electricity directly to the electric motors rather than routing it through the battery.
so direct power. . .what about charging the batteries? take it it's doing both?
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