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Old 11-04-2010, 03:28 PM   #1681
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2010 V6 Camaro will beat any 2010 V6 Mustang as long as you know how to drive. I have took a couple myself. As for the SS Camaro and the GT Mustang 2010, SS Camaro wins hands down. Its because of this that you are seeing Ford rebound with a stronger V6 and V8 for 2011. In other words they were getting there ass handed to them compared to the Camaros of 2010.
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Old 11-04-2010, 03:31 PM   #1682
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2010 V6 Camaro will beat any 2010 V6 Mustang as long as you know how to drive. I have took a couple myself. As for the SS Camaro and the GT Mustang 2010, SS Camaro wins hands down. Its because of this that you are seeing Ford rebound with a stronger V6 and V8 for 2011. In other words they were getting there ass handed to them compared to the Camaros of 2010.
Hopefully we'll see a jump in 2012
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Old 11-04-2010, 03:34 PM   #1683
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According to the wiki the overall length is 190.4" which is 15.9' I didn't realize that there was mini Camaro that was 10'
















or maybe we should assume that the op meant '10, as in 2010?
Oh shut up lol you know what i meant
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Old 11-04-2010, 06:06 PM   #1684
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The 2010 camaro v6 will beat the 10 v6 mustang in every category (relating to performance)

The 2010 ss vs gt, is closer then you guys make it seem. An l99 against a gt is a drivers race in the quarter, anything after that is an advantage to the camaro. The ls3 a good 4-5 tenths quicker then the stick, and the auto gt is a couple seconds behind that.


In a road course, it depends. The mustang is a better handling car, however not by enough to make any difference, for the camaro's power is much better and it's handling is close enough where the gap in handling is enough to close the gap in power. In a road course that is heavily focused on turns, the mustang will take it. Anything else, the camaro will win although it may be quite close (of course excluding any course with a strong emphasis on speed)
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Old 11-04-2010, 06:10 PM   #1685
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This is where i get confused, so the 315hp GT to the 426hp SS is still a drivers race? Is the weight the biggest impact?
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Old 11-04-2010, 06:13 PM   #1686
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The 2010 camaro v6 will beat the 10 v6 mustang in every category (relating to performance)

The 2010 ss vs gt, is closer then you guys make it seem. An l99 against a gt is a drivers race in the quarter, anything after that is an advantage to the camaro. The ls3 a good 4-5 tenths quicker then the stick, and the auto gt is a couple seconds behind that.

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This is where i get confused, so the 315hp GT to the 426hp SS is still a drivers race?
No

The LS3 is 426hp and would beat the snot out of a 2010 GT Mustang.
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Old 11-04-2010, 06:38 PM   #1687
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The LS3 is 426hp and would beat the snot out of a 2010 GT Mustang.
At Top End the SS will walk away from the 2010 GT
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Old 11-04-2010, 07:11 PM   #1688
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The 2010 camaro v6 will beat the 10 v6 mustang in every category (relating to performance)

The 2010 ss vs gt, is closer then you guys make it seem. An l99 against a gt is a drivers race in the quarter, anything after that is an advantage to the camaro. The ls3 a good 4-5 tenths quicker then the stick, and the auto gt is a couple seconds behind that.


In a road course, it depends. The mustang is a better handling car, however not by enough to make any difference, for the camaro's power is much better and it's handling is close enough where the gap in handling is enough to close the gap in power. In a road course that is heavily focused on turns, the mustang will take it. Anything else, the camaro will win although it may be quite close (of course excluding any course with a strong emphasis on speed)
I've never understood this. The L99, while being down 26hp, will be able to close the gap some with its fast shifting, consistent automatic tranny that cuts down on the mistakes of average drivers in the LS3. All in all, on average, both the LS3 and L99 are low 13 second cars; it's only when you put it in the hands of a very skilled driver where that HP deficit becomes killer.
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Old 11-04-2010, 07:28 PM   #1689
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everyone thinks they are a great driver : ) (I know I am only average myself)
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Old 11-04-2010, 07:51 PM   #1690
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The 2010 camaro v6 will beat the 10 v6 mustang in every category (relating to performance)

The 2010 ss vs gt, is closer then you guys make it seem. An l99 against a gt is a drivers race in the quarter, anything after that is an advantage to the camaro. The ls3 a good 4-5 tenths quicker then the stick, and the auto gt is a couple seconds behind that.


In a road course, it depends. The mustang is a better handling car, however not by enough to make any difference, for the camaro's power is much better and it's handling is close enough where the gap in handling is enough to close the gap in power. In a road course that is heavily focused on turns, the mustang will take it. Anything else, the camaro will win although it may be quite close (of course excluding any course with a strong emphasis on speed)
^ This sir, is silly.

Both the LS3 and L99 will destroy a 2010 GT any-day and to be honest.....by ALOT. Think about it, a 315hp GT is actually probably getting around 240-250hp at the wheels-260 being the most on a manual, against a 300+rwhp SS; either SS will easily run past a GT. The GT needed the engine swap to compete.
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Old 11-04-2010, 08:43 PM   #1691
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Injen CAI (17 hp) FlowMaster exhaust good for at least 5 HP. 312 hp stock. Do the math. I agree with Scrming, magazines tend to blow things out of proportion. Till I see one line up beside me at the track I will say that those pre-posted times are hype and false.
I dont know how "hype" they are, they are all pretty close with one another, and I have ran, and seen many camaro's and stangs and whateveer else run pretty close, if not BETTER than posted mag times, all it takes is a decent tire change from the factory crap, and most people beat the times...and Im not talking DR's as I did a 12.8 on factory tires, and was spinning badly in first, with DR's on now, Id pull at least a 12.5 or better with my headers, and exhaust CAI and tune...
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Old 11-04-2010, 08:45 PM   #1692
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this is my 6th Camaro and like the first 5, it will not last long in my garage. Had my fun with it. Just cars man..no need to get all fan-boyish about it.
hahaha I love it... Im the same way with my cars, I had a 2010 GT stang for 3 weeks before the 11 came out and bought that, bought my 96 z28 2 weeks later had my 74 BB N.O.S fed Z28 to add to the collection,
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Old 11-04-2010, 08:47 PM   #1693
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this is my 6th Camaro and like the first 5, it will not last long in my garage. Had my fun with it. Just cars man..no need to get all fan-boyish about it.
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Old 11-04-2010, 08:49 PM   #1694
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^ This sir, is silly.

Both the LS3 and L99 will destroy a 2010 GT any-day and to be honest.....by ALOT. Think about it, a 315hp GT is actually probably getting around 240-250hp at the wheels-260 being the most on a manual, against a 300+rwhp SS; either SS will easily run past a GT. The GT needed the engine swap to compete.
so lets talk real numbers here, not "this car makes x hp, so it should outrun this car that makes y hp"...because thats not always how things work out in real life.

lets look at your own boards numbers as an example, so theres no bias.

http://camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=21013

according to this list, real people with real times. fastest being a 12.58. impressive no doubt. however, the majority of these times are in the 13's.

bone stock 2010 GT's run mid 13's all day. this is with the 100 hp deficit.

now, is the SS capable of running mid 12's stock? this list above says yes. but thats not whats going to be common. the low to mid 13s is what is common.

thats the great thing about bench racing....no matter what the fastest car is the one that YOU want it to be, because nobodys actually doing any racing.
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