160 Degree Thermostat and Car Issues....

[john468]

I'm not touche I just want to know if the stat will do what they say or am I wasting my money and putting my engine in harms way

[Slowhawk]

Originally Posted by john468

I'm not touche I just want to know if the stat will do what they say or am I wasting my money and putting my engine in harms way

It's up to you.

I've never seen a downfall of running a 160 t-stat that is working/installed correctly in my last 10 years of working solely on LS motors. The benefit's I saw was at the track with them with quicker cool down times and more consistant 1/4 mile runs when the motor runs hotter is can cause KR.Hotter the motor the less timing they took and slower they went in the 1/4. We spent about 2 years,once a week at track rentals testing alot of crap for the LS cars.

As for Evans coolants ect. They like to run about 200-220 degree's to get the full affect of the special mix they have.I don't know the whole story behind it but we ran it in a few of our supercharged/Wet sleeved 427's back in the day.

[tarheel34]

Originally Posted by john468

I'm not touche I just want to know if the stat will do what they say or am I wasting my money and putting my engine in harms way

I wasnt saying you were touchy I was saying "too shay", in response to Ted...

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[POWERFREAK]

Originally Posted by tarheel34

I wasnt saying you were touchy I was saying "too shay", in response to Ted...

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[BowlingSS]

I used a 160 stat in my LS1 for about 8 years with no problems. This probally have nothing about the stst, but on my dyno pull my third one was the highest.

Bill

[john468]

So after all this I can't get a straight answer. Will I gain any HP from this stat change or is this just another TORNADO product!!

[bumblebeecamaro]

Originally Posted by john468

So after all this I can't get a straight answer. Will I gain any HP from this stat change or is this just another TORNADO product!!

go with what Ted says. he knows his stuff.........................

[camaro52010]

Originally Posted by bumblebeecamaro

go with what Ted says. he knows his stuff.........................

Go with what bumblebeecamaro says shes too hot to ignore.

192 came from the factory, you gotta give GM engineers some credit.

They know what is best for these engines.

I think some people get cooler engine confused with cooler intake air/fuel charge.

I for one want the bearing/metal part clearances right where they should be on a all aluminum engine.

[Slowhawk]

Actually GM does alot of things for emissions. Hot t-stat, crappy tunes ect. All to make the government happy.

[DREV LSX]

Originally Posted by JANNETTYRACING

The short answer is yes.

Here is the long answer

Minimum stat I would recommend is 180 and that is pushing it.

This is an aluminum engine and it moves alot more with temp than cast iron does, all the clearances in the engine are set up for 200 degree operating temps.

Running it cold can accelerate wear and actually reduce HP and possible spin a bearing.

Bearing clearances are very tight cold and open up to the correct specs at specified opertating temps.

Cold thermostats and low fan settings is a Crappy way to be able to get real aggressive with the timing to show a number on the dyno.

If it can't make the power at Normal Operating temps then what is the point?

Ted.

Definetly Agree!!!

[BAWLZ SS]

Originally Posted by jpsuperman81

Now you got me wanting to take mine out, dammit.

LMAO!!!!! Dont you hate it when you think you did a good move by doing something and you find out that that's probably not as good as you though! Hate that! LOL But thats what the pro recommends.

[JANNETTYRACING]

I am totally Open Minded to any and all data regarding the advantages of a 160 stat VS a 192 Stat.

Waiting patiently

Just because someones sell hundreds of them does not mean they are advantageous.

They Sell Millions of Pills on the internet that supposedly add to the Male Genitalia too.

Ted.

[justa25thTA]

Originally Posted by JANNETTYRACING

I am totally Open Minded to any and all data regarding the advantages of a 160 stat VS a 192 Stat.

Waiting patiently

Just because someones sell hundreds of them does not mean they are advantageous.

They Sell Millions of Pills on the internet that supposedly add to the Male Genitalia too.

Ted.

Ted you seem to be a pretty knowledgeable and level headed guy. Is there any DATA to support the NEED for a oil catch can?

[camaro52010]

Purpose of your Stock PCV System:

The PCV (Positive Crankcase Ventilation) system is designed to regulate and
remove fumes from the engine crankcase, and to alleviate crankcase pressure which
could cause oil leaks or seal damage. The PCV system routes crankcase fumes into
the intake manifold where they can be burned to eliminate harmful emissions into
the atmosphere. The PCV valve controls the amount of crankcase flow volume
depending on the engine's load. With large throttle openings (high engine loads),
the more blow-by gases are produced, and the more the PCV system flows oil vapor
in to the intake manifold. The PCV valve also functions as a check valve to prevent
intake manifold flow from reversing back into the crankcase when there is a
backfire, or during periods of high manifold pressure (boost) during forced induction
by turbocharger or supercharger.

Negative Effects of your Stock PCV System: Many Camaro owners with LSX engines can testify to the amount of oil residue that can accumulate inside the intake manifold, throttle body, intake track and even the air filter during aggressive driving conditions.

There are various negative effects when excess oil vapor contaminates the intake
system from the stock PCV system - such as:

• *Throttle body and/or MAFS (Mass Air Flow Sensor) malfunction or failure.
  
• *Air filter, intercooler (if equipped) and intake ducting contamination if oil pools and run back out the intake system after engine shutdown.
  
• *Reduced octane of the air/fuel mixture, which can cause detonation and the ECM (Engine Control Module) to retard timing, thereby reducing engine power.
• 
  *Excessive carbon build-up on valves, piston crowns, combustion chambers and spark plugs. This also increases the chance of detonation and power loss.

• 
  *Increased emissions & possible contamination of catalytic converters and oxygen sensors.

Bottom line: Excessive amounts of oil vapor in the intake manifold is detrimental to
your engine!