Camaro VS Mustang Mega Thread

[VetteMaro]

Originally Posted by THE EVIL TW1N

Tha was a pretty good race considering the fact the mustang had the equivalent of one more passenger than the camaro (180 extra lbs. Or 440lbs. Vs. 260 lbs) had the traction control on AND the camaro had modified exhaust!

Yes, the 5.0 had an extra passenger... And about that modified exhaust, come on man, it's only a deleted muffler

[Huggerorange73]

Originally Posted by REEFBLUE93

I don't see anything odd about this. You're making more HP and TQE to the wheels than he is and your car only weighs about 175 lbs more. With the LS3 and your mods, you should be gaining good on the big end unlike the Cobra. Your higher 60' times explain the difference in ET's and your set up explains your higher trap speeds. I'm not trying to argue with you man, just not anything odd about that IMO...

I didn't say it was odd...what I was doing was backing the claim that the Cobra is a high 12 second car. What I also pointed out was on paper, I should have put a good beat down on him but didn't. Races are not won on paper, on a bench or a forum...they are won on the street or the track, where anything can and will happen.

Originally Posted by ColdCamaroSS

Nice trap speed.

Thanks, I've seen other 5th gens pretty much like mine but on a good tire cut 11s....it's time to step up to a real tire!

Originally Posted by THE EVIL TW1N

wow 116mph is a good trap for your mods.according to the fast list the average trap speed for an ls3 car with boltons should be 112.7mph

Yup, when the car had headers and a cold air it was running 12.9 @ 111 without a tune. Launching at this power level was uneventful..and easy.

With the cam, it's trapping 116 but turning 13.1.....60' times mean EVERYTHING! Now the car wheelhops like mad off the line and on the 1-2 shift. Gotta love picking up 5 mph on the trap but going .2 slower!

[8cd03gro]

Originally Posted by mikeSS

see ya later then bro, and btw your very wrong about me, you do realize i am 19 years old.. right ?

Looks like we've got ourselves a situation.

[THE EVIL TW1N]

Originally Posted by VetteMaro

Yes, the 5.0 had an extra passenger... And about that modified exhaust, come on man, it's only a deleted muffler

What size are the stock pipes in the camaro? 2.5"? The mufflers would obviously be a restriction. It sounds like such a simple mod but probably gains more power than any other mod minus headers. And don't forget tc was on for the mustang

[VetteMaro]

Originally Posted by THE EVIL TW1N

What size are the stock pipes in the camaro? 2.5"? The mufflers would obviously be a restriction. It sounds like such a simple mod but probably gains more power than any other mod minus headers. And don't forget tc was on for the mustang

I'm pretty sure a simple tune would give you more power than a deleted muffler... I never thought about removing the mufflers as being a serious mod, maybe others can help clear this out (I don't own an SS :( ).

Going by what the guys over at SVTP say, the driver of the 5.0 says he spun too much with the TC off, and that the TC didn't intervene much. The camera guy also says that the taped run was actually the best run for the 5.0.

Some even say that from a roll, the 5.0 will probably lose by even more, and remember those guys are some serious die-hard ford fans.

[SGOS252382]

Originally Posted by THE EVIL TW1N

What size are the stock pipes in the camaro? 2.5"? The mufflers would obviously be a restriction. It sounds like such a simple mod but probably gains more power than any other mod minus headers. And don't forget tc was on for the mustang

From what we've seen there's very little HP to be gained from doing a muffler delete. The LS3 mufflers are straight though in design. You'd be very lucky if you gained 3-5 hp.

The factory cats seem to be a major restriction in the stock exhaust. We've had several members report around 20 rwhp by just removing the factory cats (while still retaining the factory manifolds).

[THE EVIL TW1N]

Originally Posted by VetteMaro

I'm pretty sure a simple tune would give you more power than a deleted muffler... I never thought about removing the mufflers as being a serious mod, maybe others can help clear this out (I don't own an SS :( ).

Going by what the guys over at SVTP say, the driver of the 5.0 says he spun too much with the TC off, and that the TC didn't intervene much. The camera guy also says that the taped run was actually the best run for the 5.0.

Some even say that from a roll, the 5.0 will probably lose by even more, and remember those guys are some serious die-hard ford fans.

the 5.0 also had almost 200lbs worth more of fatassed passenger/driver.

[SGOS252382]

Originally Posted by THE EVIL TW1N

the 5.0 also had almost 200lbs worth more of fatassed passenger/driver.

That would make a difference (at least a couple car lengths).

[usa1camaro1969]

Originally Posted by jmaryt

slow?..base LS 0-60 6.0 sec....top end buck '55..slow?..what you been smokin'?
(w.t.f!)..with almost 2 tons on it too!

Actually unless you get someone to tune it out the speed limiter kicks in around 118 or so. Our LS doesn't come with Z-rated tires.

[usa1camaro1969]

Originally Posted by scrming

People need to be more realistic about their cars....

And more realistic about what site they're really on....

[VetteMaro]

Yeah, i agree that weight difference is like having an extra passenger!

[mikeSS]

is not racing, but its a comparison, we both have kooks headers and corsa exhaust



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[lil_chef]

Originally Posted by mikeSS

after driving a 2011 500HP 5.0L tonight ya there are pretty fast

*they

Originally Posted by mikeSS

see ya later then bro, and btw your very wrong about me, you do realize i am 19 years old.. right ?

that explains some stuff.

[BigDan]

Originally Posted by ckaram

Of all the ass ends on 2010+ Mustangs, the pic above is the only pic I've seen look good. I think the Shelby combo with black paint and the huge meats gets it done.

Regular 5.0, no. This one, yes.

The only difference between the two is the spoiler and rear diffuser and you a get a bigger spoiler and the GT500 diffuser on the GT California Special so actually there's nothing that's especially Shelby in the pic. Its the big meats that really make's it look that way. So if the rear end is keeping someone from buying then just buy new rim's and tire's and you should be happy with the looks, maybe a larger spoiler.

Geeze it didn't think rims and spoilers were unattainable mods and don't Camaro owner's do the same sort of mods everyday here to improve from the factory look?

Yes a stock GT need's a little help to look bad ass but its only wheel's and spoiler's.