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PistonsFan · 11-13-2010, 05:17 PM

I have something to add about the LLT.

I have driven an 08 CTS w/ the LLT for over three years. It had timing chain issues and oil consumption issues.

If you have an LLT, check your oil frequently - especially if you drive it hard. I found that the oil level would fall to the bottom of the stick well before the oil change interval. And again, it will vary based on your driving habits. But if you don't check your oil, you will risk starving the engine for oil.

In your case, oil starvation may not be the case as the damage was only seen on one bearing. But it is something to keep in mind with the LLT in general.

I'd be curious to hear if Camaro V6 owners have experienced high oil consumption. If not, then GM must have already addressed the HFV6 oil consumption problem before dropping the LLT in the Camaro.

ckaram · 11-13-2010, 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PistonsFan

I have something to add about the LLT.

I have driven an 08 CTS w/ the LLT for over three years. It had timing chain issues and oil consumption issues.

If you have an LLT, check your oil frequently - especially if you drive it hard. I found that the oil level would fall to the bottom of the stick well before the oil change interval. And again, it will vary based on your driving habits. But if you don't check your oil, you will risk starving the engine for oil.

In your case, oil starvation may not be the case as the damage was only seen on one bearing. But it is something to keep in mind with the LLT in general.

I'd be curious to hear if Camaro V6 owners have experienced high oil consumption. If not, then GM must have already addressed the HFV6 oil consumption problem before dropping the LLT in the Camaro.

There's a couple posts about this. I've been watching mine, and it's never been low. I'm at 13k miles and did the factory break-in, whatever that's worth. Never low and I like to wind her up.

TooCool5 · 11-15-2010, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by amartinez

Does this issue also exist on the 2011 v6 Camaros or do the '11s come with the new redesigned chains?

No reports of timing chain issues on the Camaro. My guess is the overactive lifter issue in the CTS caused the oil consumption.
Both issues should have been resolved although time will tell. Most of us have under 10k on our engines so far.

Camarodriver · 11-28-2010, 09:54 PM

My new 2SS/RS is being built starting tomorrow! What a good day for a birthday! Soon she will be in the driveway! WooOooHOOoo! eB

RickRay · 11-28-2010, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Camarodriver

My new 2SS/RS is being built starting tomorrow! What a good day for a birthday! Soon she will be in the driveway! WooOooHOOoo! eB

Way to go Eric...Can't wait to see it...Will it be your DD...if so then we might get to see it sooner if you come to one of our Meets....

KFH · 11-28-2010, 10:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PistonsFan

I have something to add about the LLT.

I have driven an 08 CTS w/ the LLT for over three years. It had timing chain issues and oil consumption issues.

If you have an LLT, check your oil frequently - especially if you drive it hard. I found that the oil level would fall to the bottom of the stick well before the oil change interval. And again, it will vary based on your driving habits. But if you don't check your oil, you will risk starving the engine for oil.

In your case, oil starvation may not be the case as the damage was only seen on one bearing. But it is something to keep in mind with the LLT in general.

I'd be curious to hear if Camaro V6 owners have experienced high oil consumption. If not, then GM must have already addressed the HFV6 oil consumption problem before dropping the LLT in the Camaro.

My oil consumption is HIGH! I was shocked to see such a rapid drop in my oil level. I didn't check it for awhile because I wasn't expecting it to drop like that. I was wondering if there were others with the same high rate of oil consumption.

xx_ED_xx · 11-28-2010, 11:42 PM

Some are having issues sucking it thru the pcv since it is right behind the tb. GM has a generic test You bring it in they top it off record the mileage then you bring it back at a certain mileage and they check it again. From there depending on the useage of oil they tell you if it is normal or not. Me personally i tend to check it at every fill up. But thats what you get for working on cars for 18 years.

TooCool5 · 11-29-2010, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by KFH

My oil consumption is HIGH! I was shocked to see such a rapid drop in my oil level. I didn't check it for awhile because I wasn't expecting it to drop like that. I was wondering if there were others with the same high rate of oil consumption.

My car has not used a lick of oil between changes. (first one 2200k, 2nd one 5,000k). Now I'm running Mobil1 and going by the monitor or 1 yr whichever comes first.
What oil are you running? Also check your pcv.

Camarodriver · 11-30-2010, 12:43 AM

I got my VIN today! I expect it next week! eB

KFH · 11-30-2010, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by TooCool5

My car has not used a lick of oil between changes. (first one 2200k, 2nd one 5,000k). Now I'm running Mobil1 and going by the monitor or 1 yr whichever comes first.
What oil are you running? Also check your pcv.

I'm running Castrol Syntec which is a full synthetic and I have racked up 20,000 km so far. I checked the clean side and found no oil in my Injen tube, not sure how much is getting into the intake manifold from the dirty side. I will install a catch can soon.

camarorick · 11-30-2010, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Camarodriver

I got my VIN today! I expect it next week! eB

Very cool Eric. Can't wait to see it

heRS · 11-30-2010, 07:45 PM

I'm glad you're getting the customer service you deserve! Enjoy that new SS!!

esperman · 11-30-2010, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by heRS

I'm glad you're getting the customer service you deserve! Enjoy that new SS!!

+1

camaro1 · 12-04-2010, 03:13 PM

why is that gm dealer not even using an approved gm scan tool,, why would they use an aftermarket scan tool when being a dealer they are required to have a gm MDI and a laptop running GM GDS software....

11-28-2010, 09:54 PM	#144
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11-30-2010, 12:43 AM	#149
Camarodriver Drives: 1975 Camaro, 2010 2LT, 2011/2SSrs Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Montreal Posts: 611 View My Garage	I got my VIN today! I expect it next week! eB __________________ Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition by the mediocre mind.... Al E 2010 Summit White 2LT Camaro <-(GONE)*New 2011 2SS/RS SW M6 OEM Hurst shifter ordered Oct 7th, 2010 The perma-grin effect pictured above by a good buddy giving me a ride in my Camaro! Used 75 Camaro = $3500 Rolling restoration over 10 years = $5000 $5 of gas burned in 10 seconds = Priceless!

11-30-2010, 07:45 PM	#152
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12-04-2010, 03:13 PM	#154
camaro1 Drives: 550+RWHP 2010 camaro Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: wisconsin Posts: 1,588	why is that gm dealer not even using an approved gm scan tool,, why would they use an aftermarket scan tool when being a dealer they are required to have a gm MDI and a laptop running GM GDS software.... __________________ 415ci stroker, TVS 2300 Magnacharger, cnc heads, cam, yank ss3200 converter, Kooks long tubes, Bwoody true cold air kit, ZL1 Pump, magnaflow 3" cat-back, lowering springs,BMR control arms and tie rod bars, 3.73 gears, diff mounts, RX can, ADM fuel controller

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11-13-2010, 05:17 PM	#141
PistonsFan Drives: 08 CTS Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Detroit Posts: 82	I have something to add about the LLT. I have driven an 08 CTS w/ the LLT for over three years. It had timing chain issues and oil consumption issues. If you have an LLT, check your oil frequently - especially if you drive it hard. I found that the oil level would fall to the bottom of the stick well before the oil change interval. And again, it will vary based on your driving habits. But if you don't check your oil, you will risk starving the engine for oil. In your case, oil starvation may not be the case as the damage was only seen on one bearing. But it is something to keep in mind with the LLT in general. I'd be curious to hear if Camaro V6 owners have experienced high oil consumption. If not, then GM must have already addressed the HFV6 oil consumption problem before dropping the LLT in the Camaro.

11-28-2010, 11:42 PM	#147
xx_ED_xx Drives: 04 Silverado Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Floriduh! Posts: 1,113	Some are having issues sucking it thru the pcv since it is right behind the tb. GM has a generic test You bring it in they top it off record the mileage then you bring it back at a certain mileage and they check it again. From there depending on the useage of oil they tell you if it is normal or not. Me personally i tend to check it at every fill up. But thats what you get for working on cars for 18 years.