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Old 01-23-2009, 12:02 PM   #309
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I heard the borla, and I really didnt like the sound. It was kind of weak.
what car are you putting it on?


borla sounds great on LS3's.


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Old 01-23-2009, 12:12 PM   #310
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I guess I'll drive the Camaro when it's available...but I won't buy unless GM is able to turn things around...
GM isn't going away. If you like the car, buy it. The quality is there, so now the only way things will turn around for GM is if people buy their cars.
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Old 01-23-2009, 12:30 PM   #311
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I agree GM is turning it around as far as having cars people want to buy, but lets face facts they are insolvent as a company. Without government cash infusions every X months for the next couple of years they will file for bankruptcy.

Every manufacturer is hurting in this economy, although the reason Nissan and others pulled out of the NAIAS was only partially due to economy. Mostly it was due to the fact they aready did their major reveals at LA and they sell alot more on the coasts then they do in the middle.

Porsche wasn't there last year either soley for that reason. La as time goes on will take over detroits show and possibly NY. Who really wants to go to Detroit in Jan. anyway?
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Old 01-23-2009, 12:37 PM   #312
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I agree GM is turning it around as far as having cars people want to buy, but lets face facts they are insolvent as a company. Without government cash infusions every X months for the next couple of years they will file for bankruptcy.
They only need enough time to restructure and lower their break-even point. That time was stated to be through the end of 2009.
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Old 01-23-2009, 01:58 PM   #313
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2 seat vs. 4 seat? My mom actually went to get a 370Z then decided to get a Camaro. Hah. Also, the 370z has like 304 hp. v6.
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Old 01-23-2009, 02:18 PM   #314
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I see performance has been studied plenty.
I thought at the time the 350Z came out that it was the best looking sports car to show up in 20 yrs or more. Until I saw the new Camaro.
I know I know, maybe I should say 'sporty' car or 2 door but you see what I'm saying.

So I vote the Camaro as far as appearance, easily.
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Old 01-23-2009, 02:19 PM   #315
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2 seat vs. 4 seat? My mom actually went to get a 370Z then decided to get a Camaro. Hah. Also, the 370z has like 304 hp. v6.
370z has 332hp


its a MUCH sportier car than the Camaro
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Old 01-23-2009, 02:20 PM   #316
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For a like, race car look I woudl get the 350/370z. I mean it's my pick for a 2 seat car But I like American Muscle looking cars.
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Old 01-23-2009, 02:20 PM   #317
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370z has 332hp


its a MUCH sportier car than the Camaro
Well, when I looked it had 306..
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Well, when I looked it had 306..
thats the 350z
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I've never seen the 0-60 times for the Camaro, or overlooked them anyway. Anybody?

And the 370Z?
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It's estimated at 4.6 0-60 (possibly lower) for the SS.

Don't follow the Nissan close enough to recite it's time.
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It's estimated at 4.6 0-60 (possibly lower) for the SS.

Don't follow the Nissan close enough to recite it's time.
Sweet, thanx. I'm releived. It just has to be faster than my wifes.
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Old 01-23-2009, 03:33 PM   #322
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True. But how about the current s2000? I assume there isnt' much of a weight difference when it first came out to the most recent one.
S2k was also discontinued by Honda. It wasn't worth them adding all the improvements, safety, design into a car that just didn't sell well.
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