How to convince dealer to lower price

[Ject]

Apparently the dealer is small class and doesn't know anything or what he is talking about... Or is a con artist trying to rip people off.

I'd find a different dealer within 100 miles.. and just go with them. No reason to waste time with him, sounds like he has no clue.

[noe]

Originally Posted by BLACK SUNSHINE

Give it a roll! Dont shoot emails, face to face is the way to go.
Anyone can have email muscles.

Amen to that! I did talk to the manager when ordering, but even he told me that he was new there.

[chadrcr]

Originally Posted by noe

I read elsewhere that you should have another dealer ready who is selling at MSRP and give their name and phone # to the dealer your trying to convince to confirm to them that you do have someone to buy from if they don't lower the price. Has anyone tried this method. Oh and the dealer called my brother, INSTEAD OF ME! They told my brother that they don't have the prices for the car yet, until 20-30 days. How can that be? Because when I ordered, he had the document with all the prices of MSRP, Dealership Employee, ect. So how can he say that?

TRY to get the deposit back, if you can... other than that, if he is lying about the prices, or lack there of, I would NOT buy from them.

[Mr_Draco]

Originally Posted by noe

The problem is that I don't have many other options. But I've got a trip planned for this coming Monday. Tell me if my strategy sounds good. Ok, I was planning on letting the dealer know that I'm not going to buy from them if they don't sell MSRP or close to that, and that I won't let my parents waste that much money. Also this whole raising the price due to "demand thing, I think is BS, I ordered that car for me! There's no demand on that car unless I refuse to buy it, then there are other buyers competing for it. If they refuse to consider, and don't act upon our request, we will politely tell them to cancel, ask for the deposit back, and leave. <<< Do those sound like some good points to make?

Honestly I wouldn't talk to this dealer anymore other then telling him that I'm done dealing with his bull crap and that I was going somewhere else and ask for my deposit back. I really don't care how far I would have to drive to get another dealer, it's worth a 20 hour drive to save 10 grand. He's already shown you twice that he will not lower his price and the chances of him doing so on the third time is extremely nonexistent.

If you go against all of our recommendations and insist on asking him again to lower his price, do NOT tell him that your parents are paying for the car. Once he thinks your a spoiled rich kid who gets what ever he wants, he is more likely to raise the cost as he knows if you want it bad enough they will pay it. If you already told him then forget it, your screwed.

[noe]

Thank you all for your advice. I may post the dealer name after seeing what happens on Monday. The reason I'm so unsure about moving is because I'm their #1 allocation, but if they don't lower, I'm definitely asking for my deposit.

[noe]

Originally Posted by Mr_Draco

He's already shown you twice that he will not lower his price and the chances of him doing so on the third time is extremely nonexistent.

If you go against all of our recommendations and insist on asking him again to lower his price, do NOT tell him that your parents are paying for the car. Once he thinks your a spoiled rich kid who gets what ever he wants, he is more likely to raise the cost as he knows if you want it bad enough they will pay it.

Well, I've never had contact with the dealer after the order except a call to confirm the order placement. He does know my parents are paying, I think that contributed to the overpricing, but I'm personally going to tell him that I won't accept the car if he won't lower the price (and I really won't) And about making a trip, I really can't. I have school, and my dad's job only allows him 1 free day a week, and he's self employed, so he can't call in sick. And my mom, she's dealt with a dealer, so she has no experience. So basically I'm going Monday with my dad to go talk to the dealer (fingers crossed)

[FAF]

I traveled 38 miles today past 6 dealers to visit the Chevrolet from the list of good dealers. arrived and in 30 miutes had my order at MSRP with $500.00 depost and no hassle. pleced 6 out of 22 alocated but #2 LT of 6
no one should put up with the over MSRP ripoff dealers and remenber them in the future as I will, since I buy several car a year for the company and will never go to them again.
Lucky for me there are to many Houston, Tx Dealers the biger the worst they are.
If there is a black list, I would be more than happy to list them.
I happen to just recived a new car servey from GM yesterday from my last pruchased 3 week ago at Parkway Chevrolet in Tomball and i'll make sure GM knows of this Dealer I bought a Traverse and would not sell camaro under 5K over MSRP second car in 6 months. As per the owner and general sales MGR.
FAF

[chadrcr]

Originally Posted by Mr_Draco

Honestly I wouldn't talk to this dealer anymore other then telling him that I'm done dealing with his bull crap and that I was going somewhere else and ask for my deposit back. I really don't care how far I would have to drive to get another dealer, it's worth a 20 hour drive to save 10 grand. He's already shown you twice that he will not lower his price and the chances of him doing so on the third time is extremely nonexistent.

If you go against all of our recommendations and insist on asking him again to lower his price, do NOT tell him that your parents are paying for the car. Once he thinks your a spoiled rich kid who gets what ever he wants, he is more likely to raise the cost as he knows if you want it bad enough they will pay it. If you already told him then forget it, your screwed.

IT IS worth a drive (6-8 hours) to Fort Worth at least... several have posted msrp deals form Texas, search for the msrp thread. I would serious, and if the dealer knows your parents are paying (part or all) get the tougher parent to go with you to TELL them they have 1 chance to make it right...MSRP OR GIVE YOU THE DEPOSIT BACK. If not; cancel and let US all know their name, so we can prevent them from doing this to any more of us.

[noe]

Originally Posted by chadrcr

If not; cancel and let US all know their name, so we can prevent them from doing this to any more of us.

Definitely will

[chadrcr]

Originally Posted by noe

Definitely will

Good luck... MOST of us are on your side.

[EMB135Driver]

Originally Posted by noe

Well I sent an email to the dealership, to negotiate the pricing, and I did leave a $1,000 deposit. But I didn't get it written in paper :( .

Your Mission is not to get screwed on the car. I don't think this is gonna happen with the current dealer, so your first mission is to get the $1000 back. They are most likely gonna try to keep the deposit if you mention another dealer or lowering the price. I think I'd tell em you have gotten insurance quotes and it's simply too much for you to afford, so you are gonna look at used cars instead.

Once you have the cash back, then you can re-negotiate with another dealer. I strongly urge you not to stay at the same dealer, cause all it will do is encourage them to poke someone else in the future.

Remember, a dealer makes money if they sell you a car at Dealer Invoice price...there is a "holdback" that GM builds into the price the dealer agrees to pay for a car that then results in a check from GM to the Dealer when the car is sold. Anything you pay above Dealer Invoice is pure profit for the dealer, so even MSRP isn't a great deal when you consider that Invoice is sometimes $4000 or more above the Invoice. In these turbulent economic times, most dealers will be willing to negotiate with a savy consumer and plan on making their MSRP profits off the next uninformed customer.

The Demand for the Camaro changes the equation, but I think if you are patient and ready to walk away from any deal, you do much better than $10000 above MSRP.

[Hylton]

Originally Posted by EMB135Driver

Remember, a dealer makes money if they sell you a car at Dealer Invoice price...there is a "holdback" that GM builds into the price the dealer agrees to pay for a car that then results in a check from GM to the Dealer when the car is sold. Anything you pay above Dealer Invoice is pure profit for the dealer, so even MSRP isn't a great deal when you consider that Invoice is sometimes $4000 or more above the Invoice. In these turbulent economic times, most dealers will be willing to negotiate with a savy consumer and plan on making their MSRP profits off the next uninformed customer.

Holdback is nothing. A lousy $300 bucks give or take.

[trm0002]

Originally Posted by Hylton

Holdback is nothing. A lousy $300 bucks give or take.

Holdback is 3% or roughly $1000 on a 2SS.

[Hylton]

Originally Posted by trm0002

Holdback is 3% or roughly $1000 on a 2SS.

I stand corrected. Unfortunately, holdback is tied to the value of a car and in these tough economic times, dealers take a hit because it's the cheaper cars that are selling. Also the volume of car sales is much lower these days.