Camaro VS Mustang Mega Thread

[porcupinekiller]

Originally Posted by 1bad65

And I don't consider the 80s ancient history, and 5.0s were beating Camaros left and right during that time. It must suck to be an older Camaro fanboi, they've had to fear the 5.0 badge TWICE in their lifetime.

The funny thing is that the new V6 Camaros and Mustangs, stock to stock, smoke the original fox body 302 Mustangs.

[porcupinekiller]

This is still a decent "run on the same day" comparison. All great looking and performing cars. It all just boils down to picking the one you like best and having fun with it.

[Huggerorange73]

Originally Posted by SWAT 79

There's a big difference between a 2010 mustang and a 2011 mustang....even from saleen. While I agree that the 2010 was a closer race then people stated (especially with the l99), the 2011 gt is a better performance vehicle, in all aspects.

This is purely an opinion, try again.

Originally Posted by 1bad65

Keep in mind they didn't have to compete with the Camaro from 2003-2009.

And I don't consider the 80s ancient history, and 5.0s were beating Camaros left and right during that time. It must suck to be an older Camaro fanboi, they've had to fear the 5.0 badge TWICE in their lifetime.

I'm 41...I have yet to fear either edition.

[porcupinekiller]

Originally Posted by Huggerorange73

This is purely an opinion, try again.



I'm 41...I have yet to fear either edition.

I think he means the 2011 GT is a much better performer than a 2010 GT.

[Huggerorange73]

Originally Posted by porcupinekiller

I think he means the 2011 GT is a much better performer than a 2010 GT.

If that's the case then hell yes, he's spot on.

[JusticePete]

Originally Posted by porcupinekiller

I think he means the 2011 GT is a much better performer than a 2010 GT and in that case he's correct.

Hmm, not really. We tested both the old 4.6 and the new 2011 5.0 bone stock. As for modified we put down more than the new 500. The OE suspension was tossed in the recycle bin along with the brakes, wheels, tires, exhaust, intake, exhaust manifolds... On track, where it matters most the Mustang three link struggled to put power down in the corners. We could have had 1,000 RWHP and it would have made matters worse.

The limitations of BOTH vehicles is NOT under the hood. Both the Ford and Chevrolet are capable of putting down 900 RWHP with special builds on pump gas. It isn't the RWHP. It is the weight of the Camaro and the three arm solid axle for the Mustang that are the Achilles heels. Well that and the inability to fit more than a 305/30/19 on a 10.5x19 front rim.

[porcupinekiller]

Originally Posted by JusticePete

Hmm, not really. We tested both the old 4.6 and the new 2011 5.0 bone stock.

Come on man, get real!!! There is something very wrong about that statement and if it's true you're the only guys on the planet that had that type of result stock to stock, 2010 GT vs 2011 GT.

[1bad65]

Originally Posted by porcupinekiller

I think he means the 2011 GT is a much better performer than a 2010 GT.

Nope. Just that the 5.0s of the 80s were faster stock vs stock against a Camaro and they took to mods better as well. And it looks like history is repeating itself once again. This new 5.0 is just plain nasty. Guys are hitting 11s with a just a tune and drag radials. That's flat out impressive.

My buddy had a 93 5.0. He never lost to a Camaro, even before he began modding it. With just a few bolt-ons, he was beating Z-28s. Once he added a 70-shot, he was beating Vettes. He got the 5.0 because he got tired of being beat by them in his modded 91 Camaro.

[SWAT 79]

Originally Posted by JusticePete

What is the big difference?

The 2011 has a 5.0 4v engine, producing 412 hp (underrated) where as the 2010 has the 4.6 3v engine, producing 315hp (underrated slightly) the other major difference is the introduction of a 6 speed manual as well as a 6 speed automatic, replacing the 2010's 5 speed automatic and 5 speed manual.

Originally Posted by Huggerorange73

This is purely an opinion, try again.

Silly Silly, facts are not "opinion", they are truths. An example of an opinion would be that you think the mustang has a hideous rear end and the camaro is a much better looking car, where as others will have a different opinion.

You follow? Or should I copy and paste this so you can try again?

[SWAT 79]

Originally Posted by JusticePete

Hmm, not really. We tested both the old 4.6 and the new 2011 5.0 bone stock. As for modified we put down more than the new 500. The OE suspension was tossed in the recycle bin along with the brakes, wheels, tires, exhaust, intake, exhaust manifolds... On track, where it matters most the Mustang IRS struggled to put power down in the corners. We could have had 1,000 RWHP and it would have made matters worse.

Hmm, Interesting, aren't you a suspension company? The Mustang uses a Live axle, not an Independent rear

[Huggerorange73]

Originally Posted by SWAT 79

The 2011 has a 5.0 4v engine, producing 412 hp (underrated) where as the 2010 has the 4.6 3v engine, producing 315hp (underrated slightly) the other major difference is the introduction of a 6 speed manual as well as a 6 speed automatic, replacing the 2010's 5 speed automatic and 5 speed manual.




Silly Silly, facts are not "opinion", they are truths. An example of an opinion would be that you think the mustang has a hideous rear end and the camaro is a much better looking car, where as others will have a different opinion.

You follow? Or should I copy and paste this so you can try again?

Please do...you're basing this off what? Driving an 05' Caddy?

[Huggerorange73]

Originally Posted by 1bad65

Nope. Just that the 5.0s of the 80s were faster stock vs stock against a Camaro and they took to mods better as well. And it looks like history is repeating itself once again. This new 5.0 is just plain nasty. Guys are hitting 11s with a just a tune and drag radials. That's flat out impressive.

My buddy had a 93 5.0. He never lost to a Camaro, even before he began modding it. With just a few bolt-ons, he was beating Z-28s. Once he added a 70-shot, he was beating Vettes. He got the 5.0 because he got tired of being beat by them in his modded 91 Camaro.

I've never lost to a Mustang either......now what?

[a_Username]

Originally Posted by Huggerorange73

I've never lost to a Mustang either......now what?

[ULTRAZLS1]

Originally Posted by 1bad65

Nope. Just that the 5.0s of the 80s were faster stock vs stock against a Camaro and they took to mods better as well. And it looks like history is repeating itself once again. This new 5.0 is just plain nasty. Guys are hitting 11s with a just a tune and drag radials. That's flat out impressive.

My buddy had a 93 5.0. He never lost to a Camaro, even before he began modding it. With just a few bolt-ons, he was beating Z-28s. Once he added a 70-shot, he was beating Vettes. He got the 5.0 because he got tired of being beat by them in his modded 91 Camaro.

Hopefully history does repeat.

So you are saying within a few years GM will introduce something that blows the 5.0 out of the water? (The LT-1 in 1993) (and then the ls-1 that made things embarrassing in 1998)

The Mustang GT could not compete with its GM counterpart for nearly 20 years (1993-2010). So yeah...hopefully history does repeat...you guys get a few years of edging us out and then we get two decades worth of a beatdown.

Heres to history repeating

(except for the camaro going out of production part :( )