Vararam installed!!!

[KEEP RT]

Originally Posted by Blue Menace

I finished installation on my VR tonight by the light of the flashlight in my mouth.
All went well and I must say I'm pleased with the performance boost. I didn't realize that by "improved throttle response" it meant that the lag L99s suffer when slamming on the gas goes away completely.

I am a fan!

A true fan indeed. with a flash light no less. Thats a true Camaro lover! I'd check your bands in daylight just to make sure you are happy with the look. I did mine in my shop without a good work light and later looked at in the daylight and then rotated them for a better look.

[IndeedSS1]

Ok guys, I'm trying to get a dyno day going with my local Grand Prix club guys. I would like to do the VaraRam, stock, and a CAI if I can find a doner. CAI because it did the best all around in Ted's testing including the fuel trim it was locked into when it went into open loop, and the amount of KR during the run.

[caverman]

Originally Posted by IndeedSS1

Ok guys, I'm trying to get a dyno day going with my local Grand Prix club guys. I would like to do the VaraRam, stock, and a CAI if I can find a doner. CAI because it did the best all around in Ted's testing including the fuel trim it was locked into when it went into open loop, and the amount of KR during the run.

Re-look at Ted's testing because I think the CAI only out performed the ADM by just a little and that was with the ADM scoop intsalled. So you would need a CAI with the ADM scoop if you want to get the highest performer.

If I remember correctly the best one without a scoop was Halltech.

I would be intrested in seeing the result but doesn't Vararam want you to drive 100 for the ECM to re-learn? If so that is going to be hard to do a CAI, then install Vararam, then drive 100 mi, then re-dyno.

If the 100 mi re-learn is truely needed then I think it's going to be hard to test back to back.

[KEEP RT]

I believe he has the VR on now and would be the first to test in my mind. I really hope you can do this it should put allot of nay-sayers to rest. I'll be waiting.

[BackinBlackSS/RS]

I'll be looking forward to this, but the thing is the dyno will not tell the whole story. From everything I can gather, including my own experience driving this beast, the Vararam really shines when it's hauling ass sucking in that air.

[IndeedSS1]

Originally Posted by caverman

Re-look at Ted's testing because I think the CAI only out performed the ADM by just a little and that was with the ADM scoop intsalled. So you would need a CAI with the ADM scoop if you want to get the highest performer.

If I remember correctly the best one without a scoop was Halltech.

I would be intrested in seeing the result but doesn't Vararam want you to drive 100 for the ECM to re-learn? If so that is going to be hard to do a CAI, then install Vararam, then drive 100 mi, then re-dyno.

If the 100 mi re-learn is truely needed then I think it's going to be hard to test back to back.

I didn't like the positve fuel trims on the Halltech, and it would be more likely that I would have a CAI laying around. And the scoop isn't going to happen, when I'm doing a quick swap in a parking lot. Since the VaraRamR has been on the car for a while, it would be the first dyno'd. The stock would be second. I'm not sure that testing another cai really matters since Ted has already done that. However, I figured it it might help quiet the gum flappers if I did. Unfortunately, no matter how this is approached someone is going to have something negative to say. I'm only an individual with extremely limited resourses. Just trying to be of some help.

[axis]

Originally Posted by IndeedSS1

I didn't like the positve fuel trims on the Halltech,

What didn't you like about the +3.9% FT's? That is WELL within the margin of acceptable correction for the PCM. Unless i'm mistaken, the PCM throws a code around +20. I think I remember reading somewhere that the OEM box can vary as much as +/-5.

[IndeedSS1]

Originally Posted by axis

What didn't you like about the +3.9% FT's? That is WELL within the margin of acceptable correction for the PCM. Unless i'm mistaken, the PCM throws a code around +20. I think I remember reading somewhere that the OEM box can vary as much as +/-5.

When tuning myself, I'm kind of anal about stuff like that. On my Impala I liked my LTFTs to lock in at 0 at WOT and nothing else was acceptable. Outside of WOT to be under +/- 3. I had it down to +/- 1.5 and most of the time 0 - .7 was common. There is absolutely nothing wrong with the 4 %, but I prefer locking it at 0, which is what the CAI was showing. Plus if I had to buy a box to do testing CAI would be my choice because on my own time I'd put the scoop on later to see how much difference it made...as in does if give the "feel" the VR does.

Halltech look great and performs well, nothing against them...just trying to cover as much ground as possible, for what I might do at a later date.

[brantley847]

Are there any issues with Vararam and hydrolock? Just curious, I am not 100% familiar with the design, but it seems to put utilizing air from a lower base located near the front grill. Being that I live in Florida the "Sunshine state" where it never stops raining in summer, would this not present an issue versus the traditional box intake which has a higher base?

[IndeedSS1]

Originally Posted by brantley847

Are there any issues with Vararam and hydrolock? Just curious, I am not 100% familiar with the design, but it seems to put utilizing air from a lower base located near the front grill. Being that I live in Florida the "Sunshine state" where it never stops raining in summer, would this not present an issue versus the traditional box intake which has a higher base?

On the Vettes where is is really low to the ground possibly. But the scoop on the Camaro is high up in the grill area. Water would have to climb up hill once on the lower part of the scoop, to get to the filter. I've driven at highway speeds in heavy rain and haven't found water at the filter. Not that it can't happen but I've not seen it. This is something I will continue to check on once spring rolls around...but great question

[IndeedSS1]

Thought those with the Vararam and already know what know the "feel" part is all about, would enjoy the read.
http://www.lsxtv.com/forum/installin...rmer-1505.html

[brantley847]

How often are you required to clean the filter and is there any additional maintenance or replacements required down the road?

[axis]

Originally Posted by IndeedSS1

When tuning myself, I'm kind of anal about stuff like that. On my Impala I liked my LTFTs to lock in at 0 at WOT and nothing else was acceptable. Outside of WOT to be under +/- 3. I had it down to +/- 1.5 and most of the time 0 - .7 was common. There is absolutely nothing wrong with the 4 %, but I prefer locking it at 0, which is what the CAI was showing. Plus if I had to buy a box to do testing CAI would be my choice because on my own time I'd put the scoop on later to see how much difference it made...as in does if give the "feel" the VR does.

Halltech look great and performs well, nothing against them...just trying to cover as much ground as possible, for what I might do at a later date.

I wasn't suggesting you use the Halltech for any kind of testing, just wondering why you had a problem with 3.9 FT's. If you're just that anal, that's fine, but like I said before, it's WELL within the OEM correction range and is as close as the OEM box can be.

[IndeedSS1]

Originally Posted by brantley847

How often are you required to clean the filter and is there any additional maintenance or replacements required down the road?

You just need to treat it like you would any other reusable filter. I'd inspect it at least every 5 - 10k at first. It depend on where you drive as to how often you need to inspect or clean.