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Johnnyma45 · 01-21-2011, 03:41 PM

But then again...knowing they are not uni-directional, they however are asymmetrical. Common sense would dictate that grip must change if you change the direction? I can't shake that feeling...someone smarter than me should know.

ravensjeff · 01-21-2011, 03:46 PM

I'd take it back ASAP and get them to put them back the way they were and find out why they did un-authorized work very poorly. Could be a rookie mechanic- wouldn't want him screwing up other cars.

Bewenched · 01-21-2011, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by clg_98ta

As rolnslo said, the PZero's are NOT unidirectional, even though the tread looks like they should be (at least to me).

But I'd be annoyed that:
1) The rotated the tires w/o your authorization
2) That they didn't reset the sensors (cmon, they should have known to do that)

No Doubt. I'd be ticked off!

Homestar1217 · 01-23-2011, 04:10 PM

Yeah they totally should have reset the TPMS when they did that, it's a pain for a consumer to do it at home because you've got to actually air up the tires, or let some air out and then air them up... Like the others have said, the tires are non-directional, and Pirelli claims that the S mark in the tread is simply to reduce tire road noise, so grip is not compromised by swapping the tires. It's no bad thing that they swapped them but you definitely have reason to be irked that they didn't at least finish the job.

MaRoFreK · 01-23-2011, 04:44 PM

They should of done a Re-Learn on the sensors. But you're not even supposed to rotate the tires on a vehicle with a staggered setup they should of known that.

CaniacFan · 01-23-2011, 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Rock-It Man

P-Zeros are NOT directional. They can be swapped side to side.

I intend to do this in the Spring. After 10,000 miles, it's overdue.

But, the owner's manual says not to swap side to side unless all four tires are the same size. My dealership says NO way to swapping front to front and rear to rear with the Pirelli's.. Just sayin..

Rock-It Man · 01-23-2011, 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaniacFan

But, the owner's manual says not to swap side to side unless all four tires are the same size. My dealership says NO way to swapping front to front and rear to rear with the Pirelli's.. Just sayin..

Why not? If you swap side to side, the direction of the tread pattern is unchanged on each side., but you even out the wear from braking to the opposite edges of the sipes.

The dealer is clueless.

427Carl · 01-23-2011, 11:57 PM

Unauthorized work ....... I would take car back and do donuts in the drive through

Johnnyma45 · 01-24-2011, 10:20 AM

It's sounding like it won't hurt the grip/wear but I'm gonna take it back...my car this weekend has developed a grinding noise during low speed turns, which I see others have experienced.

metthem · 01-24-2011, 11:11 AM

Swapping side to side makes no sense to me. It sounds like the dealer did that though, apparently they relearned the rear sensors but not the front. Its not hard to do, just do it where you have access to air.

metthem · 01-24-2011, 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rock-It Man

Why not? If you swap side to side, the direction of the tread pattern is unchanged on each side., but you even out the wear from braking to the opposite edges of the sipes.

The dealer is clueless.

say what?

Jayson9 · 01-24-2011, 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rock-It Man

Why not? If you swap side to side, the direction of the tread pattern is unchanged on each side., but you even out the wear from braking to the opposite edges of the sipes.

The dealer is clueless.

I swap mine X and H patterns! Bought 2 extra 9" w/275's and now its not a problem. Even got a 8" w/245 as a spare!

That whole staggered thing Chevy uses is crap! Put the same size wheel and tire on the front and back and be done with it - IMHO. Also (word to chevy), put a real spare tire in the trunk, and place the battery under the hood where it belongs. A can of fix-a-flat...... what's next, run-flat goo in the tires?

Rock-It Man · 04-09-2011, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by metthem

say what?

Do you have P-Zeros?

Go take a look at your tires. If you have more than, say, 6,000 miles on them you will see slight feathering. Swapping side to side allows each tire to feather on the opposite side of the sipe as before.

Quote:

sipe |sīp|
noun
a groove or channel in the tread of a tire to improve its grip.

01-21-2011, 03:41 PM	#15
Johnnyma45 Former Camaro Owner Drives: 2011 Dodge Charger R/T Join Date: May 2010 Location: Carrollton, TX Posts: 604 View My Garage	But then again...knowing they are not uni-directional, they however are asymmetrical. Common sense would dictate that grip must change if you change the direction? I can't shake that feeling...someone smarter than me should know. __________________ 6/9/10-3/30/11. RIP ROXY... :(

01-21-2011, 03:46 PM	#16
ravensjeff 100% Chevy & Harley Man Drives: 2010 2SS: Blown LSX 376-B15 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Eldersburg,MD Posts: 2,211 View My Garage	I'd take it back ASAP and get them to put them back the way they were and find out why they did un-authorized work very poorly. Could be a rookie mechanic- wouldn't want him screwing up other cars. __________________ LSX 376-B15, TVS2300 SC, Harland Sharp Rockers w/ Trunion Bearings, ATI Balancer/keyed, AR LT Headers/Borla Catback Exhaust, DSS 1400 HP Axles, DSS aluminum driveshaft, 3.70, Hotchkis Springs/Sway bars, Forgeline SO3P Aluminum Wheels (20x9.5 F/20x11 R)w/ Hidden Titanium Hardware, Nitto NT05 Tires (27540ZR20 F/31535ZR20 R), Billet LPE brake/gas pedals, Escort 9500ci Radar Detector Laser Jammer, Roto Fab CAI with Ice Silver box, Carbon fiber tube/MAF Housing Assy, LPE Aluminum coil covers, SS9 Sleeper Fiber Glass Hood (ACS), Carbotech 1521 ceramic brake pads, Elite catch can.

01-23-2011, 04:10 PM	#18
Homestar1217 Technology Specialist Drives: 2014 IS 250 F Sport (Not named yet) Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: DFW, Texas Posts: 867 View My Garage	Yeah they totally should have reset the TPMS when they did that, it's a pain for a consumer to do it at home because you've got to actually air up the tires, or let some air out and then air them up... Like the others have said, the tires are non-directional, and Pirelli claims that the S mark in the tread is simply to reduce tire road noise, so grip is not compromised by swapping the tires. It's no bad thing that they swapped them but you definitely have reason to be irked that they didn't at least finish the job. __________________ I eat Rice for lunch :-) (Can't really say that anymore!) 2014 Lexus IS 250 F Sport - Bone stock!

01-23-2011, 04:44 PM	#19
MaRoFreK Drives: IOM 1SS w/factory Hurst Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Buckhannon, West Virginia Posts: 721	They should of done a Re-Learn on the sensors. But you're not even supposed to rotate the tires on a vehicle with a staggered setup they should of known that. __________________ "Success is following the pattern of life one enjoys most." Stainless works Catback with Flowmaster Single Chamber Mufflers, Vararam, Factory Hurst, SLP SS emblems, SLP Skip Shift

01-23-2011, 11:57 PM	#22
427Carl 427CARL Drives: 2011 Camaro SS 6speed Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Canada Posts: 467 View My Garage	Unauthorized work ....... I would take car back and do donuts in the drive through __________________ 427carlz@bell.net

01-24-2011, 10:20 AM	#23
Johnnyma45 Former Camaro Owner Drives: 2011 Dodge Charger R/T Join Date: May 2010 Location: Carrollton, TX Posts: 604 View My Garage	It's sounding like it won't hurt the grip/wear but I'm gonna take it back...my car this weekend has developed a grinding noise during low speed turns, which I see others have experienced. __________________ 6/9/10-3/30/11. RIP ROXY... :(

01-24-2011, 11:11 AM	#24
metthem Drives: 2011 LS Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Cincinnati Posts: 943	Swapping side to side makes no sense to me. It sounds like the dealer did that though, apparently they relearned the rear sensors but not the front. Its not hard to do, just do it where you have access to air.

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